Hi Cathy...just quick...I will get to looking at this again perhaps tomorrow. This may be
on to something here from what you said...
My whole point was to find a Calvert that made sense and I my thought was, well, now here
is Thomas... dai
"We make a living by what we get--
we make a life by what we give."
~ Sir Winston Churchill
-- "Cathy Berger" <o2bab(a)bedford.net> wrote:
I'm sitting here looking at your letter, suggesting that my Sarah Calvert
might have been the daughter of Thomas of Norfolk, VA. I have found too
many Thomas Calverts in Chester Co to even think of looking elsewhere. But
I have been unable to come up with a match, even though an ancestress was a
Sarah!
But, as I was rereading your letter a bill started to ring in my head.
Norfolk - a large harbor. Captain William Cooling sailed the Chesapeake.
Why couldn't he have transported goods to Norfolk? It is a possibility. So
let me give you what particulars I have and see if you have a possible
match.
Captain William Cooling was born in 1798 in Cecil Co, MD. He had his own
sloop. He married 12 May 1823 to Sarah Calvert, said to be dau of Thomas
Calvert. William retired and was a lock tender at Chesapeake City, MD. He
died at the pulpit of the Methodist Church there while praying. I don't
know exactly when Sarah died but I have noted that it was before 1865. Her
children were: Alice Ann, Wm Thomas, Samuel F, and Sarah J. Since the
family was active in the Methodist Church I have not put too much research
into the Catholic Calverts of Baltimore. I did check out the Quaker
Calverts of Chester Co.
If any of this rings a bell with you and your work on Cornelius Calvert's
descendants, I'd apreciate hearing frm you.
Sorry I've been so long. I got bogged down and ended up with over 1000
emails. Am now down to 561.
Cathy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Edwin Bell" <daipdq(a)juno.com>
To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV
Cathy,
I have been and a couple of researchers at your Sarah and Wm. Cooling.
You wrote me they married(I think from what you wrote you meant you know
not where
but lived in Cecil Co MD. There is a Thomas who had a dau.
Sarah(too early in time) of Cornelius and his sons the captains of ships out
of Norfolk VA. I wonder if that is where we find them?
You seem to have some info ie when they married and for me that says sarah
was b
about 1800 give or take 5 years. I have not followed all of Cornelius
line down, but I did add all of his sons via the bible record. Then there is
this site which you might want to take a peek at:
http://www.sallysfamilyplace.com/Neighbors/calverts_of_jackson3.htm
This piqued my interest again because I had kept your email addy and was
curious as
why I was curious in the first place. I passed your names off to
some other calvert researchers so I will see if anyone comes up with
anything. If they lived in MD I doubt they are Quaker Calverts but could be.
There is another family group that migrated to America before the Rev War
from the UK. The book about this was written by Dewell Lott. This has x
brothers and cousins coming to America say 1760 or so and some of them went
south like NC SC AL and GA. Others who were Tories went to Canada. I think
the book is my calvert kin and he just recently republished....so I should
have book soon.
I know that the Sarah of my Thomas is not yours. however, There are
several family
groups that are Calverts of my line that use the name Colbert
to this day. But they are Calverts of my line. That is why I asked you about
surnames.
I take it that you have not found Wm Cooling in Census data. That tells me
there is
something wrong with the data of the surname. It may be Collins or
some other variation. I am trying to do searches on that now.
Anyway, more later. I do not think his name was Cooling from what I see.
Some other
soundex version of the name but not Cooling. If you have more
that can make that a succinct name or census data, please let me know
David
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." Oscar Wilde
-- "Cathy Berger" <o2bab(a)bedford.net> wrote:
I'm of no help to anyone on my Calvert. All I have is that Sarah Calvert,
d/o Thomas, m William Cooling 1823, not in Cecil Co, MD, and they lived in
Cecil Co, MD. I bought the book on the Quaker Calverts and found no
clues.
There were possibilities but he didn't follow up all the
siblings. Much
of
the book went with one branch to VA. I don't believe they were
connected
to
Lord Baltimore.
CAthy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Edwin Bell" <daipdq(a)juno.com>
To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV
>
> Hi Cathy.
>
> Lets back up. I know we chatted a bit once about your line and I have
forgotten--where does your family line end up? that is Calvert? Do Sarah
and
William go to KY? OH? Do you have inkling of diferrent spelling for
Thomas,
such as Colbert or Colvert or even Covalt? David
>
>
> "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." Oscar Wilde
>
> -- "Cathy Berger" <o2bab(a)bedford.net> wrote:
> I can't fit my Thomas Calvert into either the Lord Baltimore or the
Quaker
> groups. His daughter, Sarah, married William Cooling in Cecil
Co, MD in
> 1823. I have no other clues as to his parentage. The Coolings were
> Methodists.
>
> Cathy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <daipdq(a)juno.com>
> To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:59 AM
> Subject: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV
>
>
> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
> >
> > Classification: Query
> >
> > Message Board URL:
> >
> >
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WQH.2ACEB/1018.1
> >
> > Message Board Post:
> >
> > When you think about genealogy, you are thinking history. Having found
> Thomas C. Calvert Sr in Greene Co PA, Will, documentation, vendue, etc I
> knew for certain that there is a very succinct history to this family
line.
> I do know this via seconary documentation: THomas Father was Isaac who
> married Fanny Bullitt(sic). other researchers who know the Calverts and
> other lines well would indicate this is the Bullitts out of VA. I
thought
> early on that Frances Bullitt was the wife of Isaac but she is
too
young.
I
> presume still, that thinking this is a valid assumption, based on locale
and
> origination of the Calverts out of MD and
> > VA.
> >
> > To be sure, there is an Isaac Calvert of the John Calvert Line most
> likely, he is found in chester and probably a brother to the
> > John and Daniel Calvert there, or the Thomas or the Joshua who m
Deborah
> Harlan and is associated with the Chenowith family line and/or
the
> Hollingsworth. But Truthfully I can say there is no inkling anywhere in
my
> family of a quaker association, except by marriage. There are 5
family
lines
> that have passed down the fact that these Calverts of first, Western VA
are
> out of MD: My Calvert family, The Harlan Carnely Lemasters and Taylors,
all
> 5 family groups having a heritage of the same story: Thomas and his
> ancestors were from Maryland. Now don't read this to say that I know
this
is
> the truth, because I do not. However, in all 5 of these families there
is
> the family story that these Calverts were related to one of the
Lords
> Baltimore, namely, Ceciliius. So fo course when I took over from Dorthey
Lee
> Calvert, I presumed a lot, but kept this essential focus intact.
> >
> > for nearly a year I have looked for Isaac Calvert who could poossiblyy
be
> disassoicated from any connection with the Irish Calverts to nno avaiil.
But
> I did begin to dig into other spellings of the Calvert surname and I
found
> an Isaac Colbert born in Somerset Co. MD 1747/8 whho was son of
Alexander
> Colbert who married Mary Whealer in 1744. Thiss really got my
attention.
I
> wsa thinking geography, how close things were and various
family
associated
> researchers who also had looked at this Isaac. THere are 4 diffrent
frames
> of reference which indicate the heritage of Isaac. one indicates
that
Isaac
> was b 1735 father of Thomas. Another William but has THomas bdate as
1784
> which is the wrong Thomas. Still another gets down to a lot
closer look,
> still with Thomas and Isaac and going back to John Calvert who
> > is the son of George b1668(Eliabeth Doyne). This john was supposedly
the
> one who came to the middle potomac and started a fur trading
post,
father
of
> William father of Isaac.
> >
> > Still another posits the father of Isaac as Reason Calvert b abt 1722.
So
> it goes round and round as I seek him..>>>WHO ARE YOU ISAAC?
> >
> > There is a transcription of a newspaper article in the files at
> > Cornerstone genealogy. I had seen this quite some time ago. It was
John
> Calvert came in to pay his bill and he told a story of his
family. At
first,
> I could not make the connection until we figured out the brothers and
> sisters of my THomas C. Calvert Jr. Then (sigh by gawd as a later
descendent
> of this Thomas was wont to say), it hit me. Had I not gone to Greene
County,
> I would never have found any of this. I would never have had the sense
to
go
> back again and again and I will be there again just after thanksgiving.
> >
> > Even the research story gets interesting but anyway, this John D names
> names which are in the faamily and ends up saying in the news article,
that
> sure, my family is from 'Bucks Lancaster, England.' This tells me that
John
> D Calvert who told the reporter this story in 1881 knew where he was
from
> and from the family to which his ancestry belonged.
> >
> > I cannot say if he meant Bucks meaning the county in PA. Or Lancaster
the
> county in VA or PA or in the UK meaning Buckinghamshire which is south
and
> east of Yorkshire. It certainly meant that a 76 year old man
knew his
family
> heritage was from England.
> >
> > Well, I will buy that. Of course the presumption on my part was this
was
> so all along.
> >
> > I hope this makes interesting story telling but the single key fact is
> that we know via this news article, the heritage of the My Calvert
family,
> even more than we knew before. FUrther in this collection of
documentation
> is a letter of Ida Calvert to her Uncle Dr. Thomas Miller
Calvert,
defining
> a trip from Silverhill, Wetzel Co WV to Greene Co pa. She says where the
> farms of Isaac and Thomas were located, even finding the tombstone of
Thomas
> Sr, still intact and readable in 1921 though in 3 pieces. She finds the
> Faney Bulet stone at Old Blacksville Cemetery,, etc.
> >
> > It is very clear that Isaac, the father of Thomas married a Fanny
> Bulliitt(sic) Boulet, bulet bullett etc. Finding an Isaac who was of MD
and
> not PA of the Irish Calvert line was a very big find. There is in the
> records of PA an Isaac who marries an Elizabeth Gart. He is suupposed
out
of
> somerset according to somee researchers but at least we can say that
there
> are possibly two isaacs who have association with West PA.
> >
> > I am sure that those who are researching this form the frame of
Reference
> of George Dye who married Sarah Hannah Calvert, D/O Isaac Calvert and
> Francis (lnu) or Bulliitt(sic) or Bullock b1769 are interested also. I
know
> there is much here that I am not documenting in this simple posting.
Many
of
> the my fellow reseearchers looking at the Isaac who was father of Sarah
> Hannah have pointed at the Isaac of CHester and that he is
> > of the Quaker Irish. I respectfully disagree. I have 3 or 4 of the
> descendent lines of Calverts of Isaac who say they were from Virginia
and
> have no Quaker connection except via marriage.
> > This includes descendents of Thomas Clare Jr, Hugh Ewing Calvert, John
D.
> Calvert which are 3 of the sons of Thomas Sr.
> >
> > I hope this stirs your interest. It really doesn't matter to me if the
> > line is Irish or from TImbuktu. The whole point is to go as far as we
> can..
> >
> > best regards to all, David Bell
> >
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