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Hi Christi,
I have invited you to participate in the test for Y Chrome DNA and also have sent you an invitation to a Yahoo Group which relates to the FT/DNA study.
I was so bold as to add your ancestry file to the site. If you do not wish this, let me know. My own and a few more are at the site.
To address yourself to receiving the kit, you can order it to your father and address billing to yourself. The initial email is the invitiation email and you will receive one automatically from FT/DNA
which directs you through enrolling, ordering and paying for the kit.
The Yahoo group is essentially a place where participants and contributors to the DNA study can ask questions, etc. We ill create a Calvert page eventually.
I too have thought that John Calvert 1692 was in my line but this remains a question still. I am stuck for proof with Isaac b 1747 who married Faney Bulet(sic) and have only family documentation(Letters) that indicate that Isaac was the Father of Thomas Clare Calvert Sr b 1769 who married Anna Ewing.
3 other researchers find that William Calvert was the father of Thomas, William who is of John of 1692 descent* caveat lol.
When you have a moment, can you detail to where you have proof of ancestry? I thought Jacob was proven of John.
my regards,
David Bell
"We make a living by what we get--
we make a life by what we give."
~ Sir Winston Churchill
-- "Christi Brogan" <christib(a)satx.rr.com> wrote:
David,
I too have joined the Yahoo Group. Am hoping to get Dad to do the test
(Dad, are you still reading this group??) to try and prove or disprove
lineage back to the Baltimores. Our line is as follows:
Direct Descendants of John Calvert
1 John Calvert b: Bef. 1525 in Kiplin near Danby Wiske,
Yorkshire, ENG d: Aft. 1611
2 Leonard Calvert b: 1550 in Danbywiske, Yorkshire, England
d: Unknown
3 George Calvert b: 1579 in Danbuywiske, Yorkshire, England
d: April 12, 1632 London, England
4 Leonard Calvert b: Bef. November 21, 1610 in St Martins in
the Field, ENG d: June 09, 1647 St Mary's, MD
5 William Calvert b: Abt. 1643 in Yorkshire, ENG d: January
10, 1681/82 Charles Co., MD
6 George Calvert b: Abt. 1668 in Charles CO, MD d: 1739
Stafford CO, VA
7 John Calvert b: Abt. 1692 in Stafford CO, VA d: Abt. 1731
Prince William CO, VA
8 Jacob Calvert b: 1724 in Stafford CO, VA d: 1772
Prince William Co., VA
9 John Calvert b: 1772 in Prince William Co., VA d:
Bef. October 14, 1812 Prince William Co., VA
10 Richard S. Calvert b: 1790 in Prince William CO, VA
d: Bet. June 03, 1856 - 1860
11 Jacob R. Calvert b: November 01, 1824 in Warren Co.,
VA d: August 23, 1893 Hocking Co., OH
12 Jacob R. Calvert b: January 27, 1857 in Hocking Co,
OH d: August 11, 1912 Circleville, Pickaway Co, OH
13 Harry Edmund Calvert b: February 11, 1886 in Mt.
Sterling, Madison Co., OH d: January 20, 1937 Columbus, OH
14 Harry Ross Calvert b: Private
15 Gary Ross Calvert b: Private
16 Christiana Lynn Calvert b: Private
Would you mind sending me an invitation to the testing site so I can request
the test kit (once I talk Dad into it :)) ? Thanks!
Date: 05/17/2004
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Edwin Bell [mailto:daipdq@juno.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 3:22 AM
To: CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CALVERT] DNA
Vicki,
The group of people participating have formed a contributors group who will
help fund a kit for someone who needs it. The point is to get the test done
for a Calvert of male descent. Do you have anyone who could do the study?
Let me know if you have a candidate to participate. We can proceed from
there. You can go to the web group...at yahoo... www.yahoo.com and go to
groups. It is Calvert_Genealogy. I can add you if you wish. The DNA study is
done via Family Tree.
Best regards,
David
"We make a living by what we get--
we make a life by what we give."
~ Sir Winston Churchill
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Hi David,
First I should thank you for stirring up action on the list :) I've been so
preoccupied with off-list duties that my duties as list-admin have gotten
put aside and I'm afraid the list has suffered as a result. My apologies to
all for that. Hopefully this little kick will get the list going again.
The use of DNA definitely leads to some great new avenues of research. We
have just been doing such a study on another list I administer and the
results have sometimes been very suprising. Some who thought they were of
one line have found they were of another and vice versa. And others who
couldn't prove a link previously had someplace to go from with their
results. All in all, I think most were very happy with their results.
Posting my file is fine. And, yes, that is correct. My line breaks in
"prove-ability" at the father of John, born 1692. I have personal
possession only of proof that goes back to Richard (as far as family
records, etc go), but trace the rest through alternate sources such as
OGorman's research and other such records. According to OGorman, both
Jacob and "George Jr." are the only two "proven" children of John. And of
course John has no proven connection to his father George, who has no proven
connection to his father William... That is all circumstantial, based upon
location and date rather than recorded evidence. Oh but that we couldn't
have gotten a dna sample from the exhumation they did in Old St. Mary's City
a few years ago! Now THAT might have helped prove something! :)
Will look forward to talking Dad (or even Grandpa) into doing the test (both
live close by)and ordering the kit to see if we can make some connections...
Date: 05/17/2004
!****************************************!
! Christi Brogan !
! Visit our homepage at http://christi.is.dreaming.org !
!****************************************!
-----Original Message-----
From: David Edwin Bell [mailto:daipdq@juno.com]
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:36 AM
To: CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: [CALVERT] DNA
Hi Christi,
I have invited you to participate in the test for Y Chrome DNA and also have
sent you an invitation to a Yahoo Group which relates to the FT/DNA study.
I was so bold as to add your ancestry file to the site. If you do not wish
this, let me know. My own and a few more are at the site.
To address yourself to receiving the kit, you can order it to your father
and address billing to yourself. The initial email is the invitiation email
and you will receive one automatically from FT/DNA which directs you through
enrolling, ordering and paying for the kit.
The Yahoo group is essentially a place where participants and contributors
to the DNA study can ask questions, etc. We ill create a Calvert page
eventually.
I too have thought that John Calvert 1692 was in my line but this remains a
question still. I am stuck for proof with Isaac b 1747 who married Faney
Bulet(sic) and have only family documentation(Letters) that indicate that
Isaac was the Father of Thomas Clare Calvert Sr b 1769 who married Anna
Ewing.
3 other researchers find that William Calvert was the father of Thomas,
William who is of John of 1692 descent* caveat lol.
When you have a moment, can you detail to where you have proof of ancestry?
I thought Jacob was proven of John.
my regards,
David Bell
"We make a living by what we get--
we make a life by what we give."
~ Sir Winston Churchill
David,
I too have joined the Yahoo Group. Am hoping to get Dad to do the test
(Dad, are you still reading this group??) to try and prove or disprove
lineage back to the Baltimores. Our line is as follows:
Direct Descendants of John Calvert
1 John Calvert b: Bef. 1525 in Kiplin near Danby Wiske,
Yorkshire, ENG d: Aft. 1611
2 Leonard Calvert b: 1550 in Danbywiske, Yorkshire, England
d: Unknown
3 George Calvert b: 1579 in Danbuywiske, Yorkshire, England
d: April 12, 1632 London, England
4 Leonard Calvert b: Bef. November 21, 1610 in St Martins in
the Field, ENG d: June 09, 1647 St Mary's, MD
5 William Calvert b: Abt. 1643 in Yorkshire, ENG d: January
10, 1681/82 Charles Co., MD
6 George Calvert b: Abt. 1668 in Charles CO, MD d: 1739
Stafford CO, VA
7 John Calvert b: Abt. 1692 in Stafford CO, VA d: Abt. 1731
Prince William CO, VA
8 Jacob Calvert b: 1724 in Stafford CO, VA d: 1772
Prince William Co., VA
9 John Calvert b: 1772 in Prince William Co., VA d:
Bef. October 14, 1812 Prince William Co., VA
10 Richard S. Calvert b: 1790 in Prince William CO, VA
d: Bet. June 03, 1856 - 1860
11 Jacob R. Calvert b: November 01, 1824 in Warren Co.,
VA d: August 23, 1893 Hocking Co., OH
12 Jacob R. Calvert b: January 27, 1857 in Hocking Co,
OH d: August 11, 1912 Circleville, Pickaway Co, OH
13 Harry Edmund Calvert b: February 11, 1886 in Mt.
Sterling, Madison Co., OH d: January 20, 1937 Columbus, OH
14 Harry Ross Calvert b: Private
15 Gary Ross Calvert b: Private
16 Christiana Lynn Calvert b: Private
Would you mind sending me an invitation to the testing site so I can request
the test kit (once I talk Dad into it :)) ? Thanks!
Date: 05/17/2004
!****************************************!
! Christi Brogan !
! Visit our homepage at http://christi.is.dreaming.org !
!****************************************!
! If you were on trial for being a !
! Christian--- would there be enough !
! evidence to convict you? !
!****************************************!
-----Original Message-----
From: David Edwin Bell [mailto:daipdq@juno.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 3:22 AM
To: CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CALVERT] DNA
Vicki,
The group of people participating have formed a contributors group who will
help fund a kit for someone who needs it. The point is to get the test done
for a Calvert of male descent. Do you have anyone who could do the study?
Let me know if you have a candidate to participate. We can proceed from
there. You can go to the web group...at yahoo... www.yahoo.com and go to
groups. It is Calvert_Genealogy. I can add you if you wish. The DNA study is
done via Family Tree.
Best regards,
David
"We make a living by what we get--
we make a life by what we give."
~ Sir Winston Churchill
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WQH.2ACEB/1064
Message Board Post:
I'm looking for information on Lily Myrtle Calvert. Here's what I know:
1) Lily Myrtle Calvert. Married John Wesley Hardy.
2) They had three children:
a) Howard Hardy (dob 1-2-1917 in Braymer, Caldwell County, Missouri; dod 4-19-2004 in Fredonia, Wilson County, Kansas). Married Willa Marie Wightman on 5-3-1959 in Kansas City, Missouri.
b) Beulah C. Hardy. Married John Morain. They had no children.
c) Wesley Hardy (b:1-3-1913 in Groymer, Kansas; d: 8-28-1964 in Topeka, Shawnee County, Kansas).
Married Estella Pearl Newland on October 10, 1933 in Fredonia, Wilson County, Kansas (b December 24, 1913 in Earlton, Neosho County, Kansas; d August 01, 1989 in Tulsa, Tulsa County, Oklahoma).
I pick up from the Wesley's line down.
Can someone help me?
Thank you,
Dawn Dalton.
Cathy,
I have been and a couple of researchers at your Sarah and Wm. Cooling.
You wrote me they married(I think from what you wrote you meant you know not where but lived in Cecil Co MD. There is a Thomas who had a dau. Sarah(too early in time) of Cornelius and his sons the captains of ships out of Norfolk VA. I wonder if that is where we find them?
You seem to have some info ie when they married and for me that says sarah was b about 1800 give or take 5 years. I have not followed all of Cornelius line down, but I did add all of his sons via the bible record. Then there is this site which you might want to take a peek at:
http://www.sallysfamilyplace.com/Neighbors/calverts_of_jackson3.htm
This piqued my interest again because I had kept your email addy and was curious as why I was curious in the first place. I passed your names off to some other calvert researchers so I will see if anyone comes up with anything. If they lived in MD I doubt they are Quaker Calverts but could be. There is another family group that migrated to America before the Rev War from the UK. The book about this was written by Dewell Lott. This has x brothers and cousins coming to America say 1760 or so and some of them went south like NC SC AL and GA. Others who were Tories went to Canada. I think the book is my calvert kin and he just recently republished....so I should have book soon.
I know that the Sarah of my Thomas is not yours. however, There are several family groups that are Calverts of my line that use the name Colbert to this day. But they are Calverts of my line. That is why I asked you about surnames.
I take it that you have not found Wm Cooling in Census data. That tells me there is something wrong with the data of the surname. It may be Collins or some other variation. I am trying to do searches on that now.
Anyway, more later. I do not think his name was Cooling from what I see. Some other soundex version of the name but not Cooling. If you have more that can make that a succinct name or census data, please let me know
David
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." Oscar Wilde
-- "Cathy Berger" <o2bab(a)bedford.net> wrote:
I'm of no help to anyone on my Calvert. All I have is that Sarah Calvert,
d/o Thomas, m William Cooling 1823, not in Cecil Co, MD, and they lived in
Cecil Co, MD. I bought the book on the Quaker Calverts and found no clues.
There were possibilities but he didn't follow up all the siblings. Much of
the book went with one branch to VA. I don't believe they were connected to
Lord Baltimore.
CAthy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Edwin Bell" <daipdq(a)juno.com>
To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV
>
> Hi Cathy.
>
> Lets back up. I know we chatted a bit once about your line and I have
forgotten--where does your family line end up? that is Calvert? Do Sarah and
William go to KY? OH? Do you have inkling of diferrent spelling for Thomas,
such as Colbert or Colvert or even Covalt? David
>
>
> "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." Oscar Wilde
>
> -- "Cathy Berger" <o2bab(a)bedford.net> wrote:
> I can't fit my Thomas Calvert into either the Lord Baltimore or the Quaker
> groups. His daughter, Sarah, married William Cooling in Cecil Co, MD in
> 1823. I have no other clues as to his parentage. The Coolings were
> Methodists.
>
> Cathy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <daipdq(a)juno.com>
> To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:59 AM
> Subject: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV
>
>
> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
> >
> > Classification: Query
> >
> > Message Board URL:
> >
> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WQH.2ACEB/1018.1
> >
> > Message Board Post:
> >
> > When you think about genealogy, you are thinking history. Having found
> Thomas C. Calvert Sr in Greene Co PA, Will, documentation, vendue, etc I
> knew for certain that there is a very succinct history to this family
line.
> I do know this via seconary documentation: THomas Father was Isaac who
> married Fanny Bullitt(sic). other researchers who know the Calverts and
> other lines well would indicate this is the Bullitts out of VA. I thought
> early on that Frances Bullitt was the wife of Isaac but she is too young.
I
> presume still, that thinking this is a valid assumption, based on locale
and
> origination of the Calverts out of MD and
> > VA.
> >
> > To be sure, there is an Isaac Calvert of the John Calvert Line most
> likely, he is found in chester and probably a brother to the
> > John and Daniel Calvert there, or the Thomas or the Joshua who m Deborah
> Harlan and is associated with the Chenowith family line and/or the
> Hollingsworth. But Truthfully I can say there is no inkling anywhere in my
> family of a quaker association, except by marriage. There are 5 family
lines
> that have passed down the fact that these Calverts of first, Western VA
are
> out of MD: My Calvert family, The Harlan Carnely Lemasters and Taylors,
all
> 5 family groups having a heritage of the same story: Thomas and his
> ancestors were from Maryland. Now don't read this to say that I know this
is
> the truth, because I do not. However, in all 5 of these families there is
> the family story that these Calverts were related to one of the Lords
> Baltimore, namely, Ceciliius. So fo course when I took over from Dorthey
Lee
> Calvert, I presumed a lot, but kept this essential focus intact.
> >
> > for nearly a year I have looked for Isaac Calvert who could poossiblyy
be
> disassoicated from any connection with the Irish Calverts to nno avaiil.
But
> I did begin to dig into other spellings of the Calvert surname and I found
> an Isaac Colbert born in Somerset Co. MD 1747/8 whho was son of Alexander
> Colbert who married Mary Whealer in 1744. Thiss really got my attention. I
> wsa thinking geography, how close things were and various family
associated
> researchers who also had looked at this Isaac. THere are 4 diffrent frames
> of reference which indicate the heritage of Isaac. one indicates that
Isaac
> was b 1735 father of Thomas. Another William but has THomas bdate as 1784
> which is the wrong Thomas. Still another gets down to a lot closer look,
> still with Thomas and Isaac and going back to John Calvert who
> > is the son of George b1668(Eliabeth Doyne). This john was supposedly the
> one who came to the middle potomac and started a fur trading post, father
of
> William father of Isaac.
> >
> > Still another posits the father of Isaac as Reason Calvert b abt 1722.
So
> it goes round and round as I seek him..>>>WHO ARE YOU ISAAC?
> >
> > There is a transcription of a newspaper article in the files at
> > Cornerstone genealogy. I had seen this quite some time ago. It was John
> Calvert came in to pay his bill and he told a story of his family. At
first,
> I could not make the connection until we figured out the brothers and
> sisters of my THomas C. Calvert Jr. Then (sigh by gawd as a later
descendent
> of this Thomas was wont to say), it hit me. Had I not gone to Greene
County,
> I would never have found any of this. I would never have had the sense to
go
> back again and again and I will be there again just after thanksgiving.
> >
> > Even the research story gets interesting but anyway, this John D names
> names which are in the faamily and ends up saying in the news article,
that
> sure, my family is from 'Bucks Lancaster, England.' This tells me that
John
> D Calvert who told the reporter this story in 1881 knew where he was from
> and from the family to which his ancestry belonged.
> >
> > I cannot say if he meant Bucks meaning the county in PA. Or Lancaster
the
> county in VA or PA or in the UK meaning Buckinghamshire which is south and
> east of Yorkshire. It certainly meant that a 76 year old man knew his
family
> heritage was from England.
> >
> > Well, I will buy that. Of course the presumption on my part was this was
> so all along.
> >
> > I hope this makes interesting story telling but the single key fact is
> that we know via this news article, the heritage of the My Calvert family,
> even more than we knew before. FUrther in this collection of documentation
> is a letter of Ida Calvert to her Uncle Dr. Thomas Miller Calvert,
defining
> a trip from Silverhill, Wetzel Co WV to Greene Co pa. She says where the
> farms of Isaac and Thomas were located, even finding the tombstone of
Thomas
> Sr, still intact and readable in 1921 though in 3 pieces. She finds the
> Faney Bulet stone at Old Blacksville Cemetery,, etc.
> >
> > It is very clear that Isaac, the father of Thomas married a Fanny
> Bulliitt(sic) Boulet, bulet bullett etc. Finding an Isaac who was of MD
and
> not PA of the Irish Calvert line was a very big find. There is in the
> records of PA an Isaac who marries an Elizabeth Gart. He is suupposed out
of
> somerset according to somee researchers but at least we can say that there
> are possibly two isaacs who have association with West PA.
> >
> > I am sure that those who are researching this form the frame of
Reference
> of George Dye who married Sarah Hannah Calvert, D/O Isaac Calvert and
> Francis (lnu) or Bulliitt(sic) or Bullock b1769 are interested also. I
know
> there is much here that I am not documenting in this simple posting. Many
of
> the my fellow reseearchers looking at the Isaac who was father of Sarah
> Hannah have pointed at the Isaac of CHester and that he is
> > of the Quaker Irish. I respectfully disagree. I have 3 or 4 of the
> descendent lines of Calverts of Isaac who say they were from Virginia and
> have no Quaker connection except via marriage.
> > This includes descendents of Thomas Clare Jr, Hugh Ewing Calvert, John
D.
> Calvert which are 3 of the sons of Thomas Sr.
> >
> > I hope this stirs your interest. It really doesn't matter to me if the
> > line is Irish or from TImbuktu. The whole point is to go as far as we
> can..
> >
> > best regards to all, David Bell
> >
> >
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