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Surnames: Calvert Colbert
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WQH.2ACEB/996.7
Message Board Post:
Joanne:
I know you made a recent trip to the UK and you were going to look for Mary. Did you find anything? My 3rd Cousin Dale Harlan just returned(these are the Calvert Families of WV and Western VA and PA) and I had asked him to see what he could find to no avail. He did search Yorkshire and Lancaster and elsewhere.
I did not post this at ancestry, rather at Genealogy.com, related to what I have found recently.
I believe Isaac Calvert who married Faney Bulet(Sic both given and sur) is the son of Alexander Calvert who Married Mary WHeeler, Somerset County MD 1744. They named first son Williiam(supposedly after father) and 2nd son Isaac after Mary's father, Isaac WHeeler son of Edward. This is not proven but does tie into the family heritage putting them in MD. I find tax list record for Isaac Colbert 1783, Queen Anne's and he and William I believe in same county, 1790. Then Isaac Colbert Colvert and Colbert 1800 thru 1820 Census, Greene County PA.
In the same somerset records are Nutters whom the Calverts later marry over in Wetzel so I think this is a good indication that Alexander is the father of Isaac. I have also land records that appear to tie these Calverts(by documents, named Calvert but Census is Colbert), and seem to follow the western migration route to western VA.
I think I will be in the UK around Christmas. It would be good if you could update us on Mary and anything else. Dale is elderly and I have yet to be filled in about his findings. He was looking at William Calverts trying to associate for me, Alexander of William b 1690 to 1700. We know we have the Will of Wm Robinson c
1796 where William Calvert was Executor. His own will assigns un-named guardian to his son Wm after 1700...this is the father, I think of Alexander.
Waiting with interest to see what you found. I will of course forward what Dale Found. Dale Harlan's father married a Calvert of my line in WV that were formerly VA . Suffice it to say I know that Isaac Calvert(Colbert) married Frances. Also, thanks for the look up in Dewell Lott's book. I spent a good portion of the day going over the books of Somerset (worchester) Co MD on Saturday and spend a bit of each Sat at the library.
Right now, I am looking at Alexander Calvert as the father of Isaac who is in Greene Co. PA. Not proven but certainly is not an Isaac who is quaker from Ireland(per family heritage, not quaker).
thanks for all of your help.. my regards,
David
The line I am researching is John Calvert the brother to your Leonard
Calvert. I would be happy to exchange information with you.
JR
----- Original Message -----
From: <jolly(a)kda.attmil.ne.jp>
To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 6:43 AM
Subject: [CALVERT] Re: LEONARD CALVER, DOB-1787 WASH.CO TENN
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> Would like to compare notes on Leonard Calvert who married Mary Bowman.
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Would like to compare notes on Leonard Calvert who married Mary Bowman.
Cathy,
I have been and a couple of researchers at your Sarah and Wm. Cooling.
You wrote me they married(I think from what you wrote you meant you know not where but lived in Cecil Co MD. There is a Thomas who had a dau. Sarah(too early in time) of Cornelius and his sons the captains of ships out of Norfolk VA. I wonder if that is where we find them?
You seem to have some info ie when they married and for me that says sarah was b about 1800 give or take 5 years. I have not followed all of Cornelius line down, but I did add all of his sons via the bible record. Then there is this site which you might want to take a peek at:
http://www.sallysfamilyplace.com/Neighbors/calverts_of_jackson3.htm
This piqued my interest again because I had kept your email addy and was curious as why I was curious in the first place. I passed your names off to some other calvert researchers so I will see if anyone comes up with anything. If they lived in MD I doubt they are Quaker Calverts but could be. There is another family group that migrated to America before the Rev War from the UK. The book about this was written by Dewell Lott. This has x brothers and cousins coming to America say 1760 or so and some of them went south like NC SC AL and GA. Others who were Tories went to Canada. I think the book is my calvert kin and he just recently republished....so I should have book soon.
I know that the Sarah of my Thomas is not yours. however, There are several family groups that are Calverts of my line that use the name Colbert to this day. But they are Calverts of my line. That is why I asked you about surnames.
I take it that you have not found Wm Cooling in Census data. That tells me there is something wrong with the data of the surname. It may be Collins or some other variation. I am trying to do searches on that now.
Anyway, more later. I do not think his name was Cooling from what I see. Some other soundex version of the name but not Cooling. If you have more that can make that a succinct name or census data, please let me know
David
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." Oscar Wilde
-- "Cathy Berger" <o2bab(a)bedford.net> wrote:
I'm of no help to anyone on my Calvert. All I have is that Sarah Calvert,
d/o Thomas, m William Cooling 1823, not in Cecil Co, MD, and they lived in
Cecil Co, MD. I bought the book on the Quaker Calverts and found no clues.
There were possibilities but he didn't follow up all the siblings. Much of
the book went with one branch to VA. I don't believe they were connected to
Lord Baltimore.
CAthy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Edwin Bell" <daipdq(a)juno.com>
To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV
>
> Hi Cathy.
>
> Lets back up. I know we chatted a bit once about your line and I have
forgotten--where does your family line end up? that is Calvert? Do Sarah and
William go to KY? OH? Do you have inkling of diferrent spelling for Thomas,
such as Colbert or Colvert or even Covalt? David
>
>
> "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." Oscar Wilde
>
> -- "Cathy Berger" <o2bab(a)bedford.net> wrote:
> I can't fit my Thomas Calvert into either the Lord Baltimore or the Quaker
> groups. His daughter, Sarah, married William Cooling in Cecil Co, MD in
> 1823. I have no other clues as to his parentage. The Coolings were
> Methodists.
>
> Cathy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <daipdq(a)juno.com>
> To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:59 AM
> Subject: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV
>
>
> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
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> >
> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WQH.2ACEB/1018.1
> >
> > Message Board Post:
> >
> > When you think about genealogy, you are thinking history. Having found
> Thomas C. Calvert Sr in Greene Co PA, Will, documentation, vendue, etc I
> knew for certain that there is a very succinct history to this family
line.
> I do know this via seconary documentation: THomas Father was Isaac who
> married Fanny Bullitt(sic). other researchers who know the Calverts and
> other lines well would indicate this is the Bullitts out of VA. I thought
> early on that Frances Bullitt was the wife of Isaac but she is too young.
I
> presume still, that thinking this is a valid assumption, based on locale
and
> origination of the Calverts out of MD and
> > VA.
> >
> > To be sure, there is an Isaac Calvert of the John Calvert Line most
> likely, he is found in chester and probably a brother to the
> > John and Daniel Calvert there, or the Thomas or the Joshua who m Deborah
> Harlan and is associated with the Chenowith family line and/or the
> Hollingsworth. But Truthfully I can say there is no inkling anywhere in my
> family of a quaker association, except by marriage. There are 5 family
lines
> that have passed down the fact that these Calverts of first, Western VA
are
> out of MD: My Calvert family, The Harlan Carnely Lemasters and Taylors,
all
> 5 family groups having a heritage of the same story: Thomas and his
> ancestors were from Maryland. Now don't read this to say that I know this
is
> the truth, because I do not. However, in all 5 of these families there is
> the family story that these Calverts were related to one of the Lords
> Baltimore, namely, Ceciliius. So fo course when I took over from Dorthey
Lee
> Calvert, I presumed a lot, but kept this essential focus intact.
> >
> > for nearly a year I have looked for Isaac Calvert who could poossiblyy
be
> disassoicated from any connection with the Irish Calverts to nno avaiil.
But
> I did begin to dig into other spellings of the Calvert surname and I found
> an Isaac Colbert born in Somerset Co. MD 1747/8 whho was son of Alexander
> Colbert who married Mary Whealer in 1744. Thiss really got my attention. I
> wsa thinking geography, how close things were and various family
associated
> researchers who also had looked at this Isaac. THere are 4 diffrent frames
> of reference which indicate the heritage of Isaac. one indicates that
Isaac
> was b 1735 father of Thomas. Another William but has THomas bdate as 1784
> which is the wrong Thomas. Still another gets down to a lot closer look,
> still with Thomas and Isaac and going back to John Calvert who
> > is the son of George b1668(Eliabeth Doyne). This john was supposedly the
> one who came to the middle potomac and started a fur trading post, father
of
> William father of Isaac.
> >
> > Still another posits the father of Isaac as Reason Calvert b abt 1722.
So
> it goes round and round as I seek him..>>>WHO ARE YOU ISAAC?
> >
> > There is a transcription of a newspaper article in the files at
> > Cornerstone genealogy. I had seen this quite some time ago. It was John
> Calvert came in to pay his bill and he told a story of his family. At
first,
> I could not make the connection until we figured out the brothers and
> sisters of my THomas C. Calvert Jr. Then (sigh by gawd as a later
descendent
> of this Thomas was wont to say), it hit me. Had I not gone to Greene
County,
> I would never have found any of this. I would never have had the sense to
go
> back again and again and I will be there again just after thanksgiving.
> >
> > Even the research story gets interesting but anyway, this John D names
> names which are in the faamily and ends up saying in the news article,
that
> sure, my family is from 'Bucks Lancaster, England.' This tells me that
John
> D Calvert who told the reporter this story in 1881 knew where he was from
> and from the family to which his ancestry belonged.
> >
> > I cannot say if he meant Bucks meaning the county in PA. Or Lancaster
the
> county in VA or PA or in the UK meaning Buckinghamshire which is south and
> east of Yorkshire. It certainly meant that a 76 year old man knew his
family
> heritage was from England.
> >
> > Well, I will buy that. Of course the presumption on my part was this was
> so all along.
> >
> > I hope this makes interesting story telling but the single key fact is
> that we know via this news article, the heritage of the My Calvert family,
> even more than we knew before. FUrther in this collection of documentation
> is a letter of Ida Calvert to her Uncle Dr. Thomas Miller Calvert,
defining
> a trip from Silverhill, Wetzel Co WV to Greene Co pa. She says where the
> farms of Isaac and Thomas were located, even finding the tombstone of
Thomas
> Sr, still intact and readable in 1921 though in 3 pieces. She finds the
> Faney Bulet stone at Old Blacksville Cemetery,, etc.
> >
> > It is very clear that Isaac, the father of Thomas married a Fanny
> Bulliitt(sic) Boulet, bulet bullett etc. Finding an Isaac who was of MD
and
> not PA of the Irish Calvert line was a very big find. There is in the
> records of PA an Isaac who marries an Elizabeth Gart. He is suupposed out
of
> somerset according to somee researchers but at least we can say that there
> are possibly two isaacs who have association with West PA.
> >
> > I am sure that those who are researching this form the frame of
Reference
> of George Dye who married Sarah Hannah Calvert, D/O Isaac Calvert and
> Francis (lnu) or Bulliitt(sic) or Bullock b1769 are interested also. I
know
> there is much here that I am not documenting in this simple posting. Many
of
> the my fellow reseearchers looking at the Isaac who was father of Sarah
> Hannah have pointed at the Isaac of CHester and that he is
> > of the Quaker Irish. I respectfully disagree. I have 3 or 4 of the
> descendent lines of Calverts of Isaac who say they were from Virginia and
> have no Quaker connection except via marriage.
> > This includes descendents of Thomas Clare Jr, Hugh Ewing Calvert, John
D.
> Calvert which are 3 of the sons of Thomas Sr.
> >
> > I hope this stirs your interest. It really doesn't matter to me if the
> > line is Irish or from TImbuktu. The whole point is to go as far as we
> can..
> >
> > best regards to all, David Bell
> >
> >
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> Calvert Brogan at calvert-admin(a)rootsweb.com
> >
> >
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I'm of no help to anyone on my Calvert. All I have is that Sarah Calvert,
d/o Thomas, m William Cooling 1823, not in Cecil Co, MD, and they lived in
Cecil Co, MD. I bought the book on the Quaker Calverts and found no clues.
There were possibilities but he didn't follow up all the siblings. Much of
the book went with one branch to VA. I don't believe they were connected to
Lord Baltimore.
CAthy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Edwin Bell" <daipdq(a)juno.com>
To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV
>
> Hi Cathy.
>
> Lets back up. I know we chatted a bit once about your line and I have
forgotten--where does your family line end up? that is Calvert? Do Sarah and
William go to KY? OH? Do you have inkling of diferrent spelling for Thomas,
such as Colbert or Colvert or even Covalt? David
>
>
> "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." Oscar Wilde
>
> -- "Cathy Berger" <o2bab(a)bedford.net> wrote:
> I can't fit my Thomas Calvert into either the Lord Baltimore or the Quaker
> groups. His daughter, Sarah, married William Cooling in Cecil Co, MD in
> 1823. I have no other clues as to his parentage. The Coolings were
> Methodists.
>
> Cathy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <daipdq(a)juno.com>
> To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:59 AM
> Subject: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV
>
>
> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
> >
> > Classification: Query
> >
> > Message Board URL:
> >
> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WQH.2ACEB/1018.1
> >
> > Message Board Post:
> >
> > When you think about genealogy, you are thinking history. Having found
> Thomas C. Calvert Sr in Greene Co PA, Will, documentation, vendue, etc I
> knew for certain that there is a very succinct history to this family
line.
> I do know this via seconary documentation: THomas Father was Isaac who
> married Fanny Bullitt(sic). other researchers who know the Calverts and
> other lines well would indicate this is the Bullitts out of VA. I thought
> early on that Frances Bullitt was the wife of Isaac but she is too young.
I
> presume still, that thinking this is a valid assumption, based on locale
and
> origination of the Calverts out of MD and
> > VA.
> >
> > To be sure, there is an Isaac Calvert of the John Calvert Line most
> likely, he is found in chester and probably a brother to the
> > John and Daniel Calvert there, or the Thomas or the Joshua who m Deborah
> Harlan and is associated with the Chenowith family line and/or the
> Hollingsworth. But Truthfully I can say there is no inkling anywhere in my
> family of a quaker association, except by marriage. There are 5 family
lines
> that have passed down the fact that these Calverts of first, Western VA
are
> out of MD: My Calvert family, The Harlan Carnely Lemasters and Taylors,
all
> 5 family groups having a heritage of the same story: Thomas and his
> ancestors were from Maryland. Now don't read this to say that I know this
is
> the truth, because I do not. However, in all 5 of these families there is
> the family story that these Calverts were related to one of the Lords
> Baltimore, namely, Ceciliius. So fo course when I took over from Dorthey
Lee
> Calvert, I presumed a lot, but kept this essential focus intact.
> >
> > for nearly a year I have looked for Isaac Calvert who could poossiblyy
be
> disassoicated from any connection with the Irish Calverts to nno avaiil.
But
> I did begin to dig into other spellings of the Calvert surname and I found
> an Isaac Colbert born in Somerset Co. MD 1747/8 whho was son of Alexander
> Colbert who married Mary Whealer in 1744. Thiss really got my attention. I
> wsa thinking geography, how close things were and various family
associated
> researchers who also had looked at this Isaac. THere are 4 diffrent frames
> of reference which indicate the heritage of Isaac. one indicates that
Isaac
> was b 1735 father of Thomas. Another William but has THomas bdate as 1784
> which is the wrong Thomas. Still another gets down to a lot closer look,
> still with Thomas and Isaac and going back to John Calvert who
> > is the son of George b1668(Eliabeth Doyne). This john was supposedly the
> one who came to the middle potomac and started a fur trading post, father
of
> William father of Isaac.
> >
> > Still another posits the father of Isaac as Reason Calvert b abt 1722.
So
> it goes round and round as I seek him..>>>WHO ARE YOU ISAAC?
> >
> > There is a transcription of a newspaper article in the files at
> > Cornerstone genealogy. I had seen this quite some time ago. It was John
> Calvert came in to pay his bill and he told a story of his family. At
first,
> I could not make the connection until we figured out the brothers and
> sisters of my THomas C. Calvert Jr. Then (sigh by gawd as a later
descendent
> of this Thomas was wont to say), it hit me. Had I not gone to Greene
County,
> I would never have found any of this. I would never have had the sense to
go
> back again and again and I will be there again just after thanksgiving.
> >
> > Even the research story gets interesting but anyway, this John D names
> names which are in the faamily and ends up saying in the news article,
that
> sure, my family is from 'Bucks Lancaster, England.' This tells me that
John
> D Calvert who told the reporter this story in 1881 knew where he was from
> and from the family to which his ancestry belonged.
> >
> > I cannot say if he meant Bucks meaning the county in PA. Or Lancaster
the
> county in VA or PA or in the UK meaning Buckinghamshire which is south and
> east of Yorkshire. It certainly meant that a 76 year old man knew his
family
> heritage was from England.
> >
> > Well, I will buy that. Of course the presumption on my part was this was
> so all along.
> >
> > I hope this makes interesting story telling but the single key fact is
> that we know via this news article, the heritage of the My Calvert family,
> even more than we knew before. FUrther in this collection of documentation
> is a letter of Ida Calvert to her Uncle Dr. Thomas Miller Calvert,
defining
> a trip from Silverhill, Wetzel Co WV to Greene Co pa. She says where the
> farms of Isaac and Thomas were located, even finding the tombstone of
Thomas
> Sr, still intact and readable in 1921 though in 3 pieces. She finds the
> Faney Bulet stone at Old Blacksville Cemetery,, etc.
> >
> > It is very clear that Isaac, the father of Thomas married a Fanny
> Bulliitt(sic) Boulet, bulet bullett etc. Finding an Isaac who was of MD
and
> not PA of the Irish Calvert line was a very big find. There is in the
> records of PA an Isaac who marries an Elizabeth Gart. He is suupposed out
of
> somerset according to somee researchers but at least we can say that there
> are possibly two isaacs who have association with West PA.
> >
> > I am sure that those who are researching this form the frame of
Reference
> of George Dye who married Sarah Hannah Calvert, D/O Isaac Calvert and
> Francis (lnu) or Bulliitt(sic) or Bullock b1769 are interested also. I
know
> there is much here that I am not documenting in this simple posting. Many
of
> the my fellow reseearchers looking at the Isaac who was father of Sarah
> Hannah have pointed at the Isaac of CHester and that he is
> > of the Quaker Irish. I respectfully disagree. I have 3 or 4 of the
> descendent lines of Calverts of Isaac who say they were from Virginia and
> have no Quaker connection except via marriage.
> > This includes descendents of Thomas Clare Jr, Hugh Ewing Calvert, John
D.
> Calvert which are 3 of the sons of Thomas Sr.
> >
> > I hope this stirs your interest. It really doesn't matter to me if the
> > line is Irish or from TImbuktu. The whole point is to go as far as we
> can..
> >
> > best regards to all, David Bell
> >
> >
> > ==== CALVERT Mailing List ====
> > Any list problems or questions can be sent to the listowner, Christi
> Calvert Brogan at calvert-admin(a)rootsweb.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
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