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Nov. 11, 1999 Comment #2
All I want to know is what form we send
the info. and where it is sent. If someone
does the Jacob line, as I mentioned, but
thru another son, I gather I would send
Bill's line thru Francis and so on. Just
need to know in what form and where to send. Barbara Calvert
Nov. 11, 1999 To George,
It all sounds so complicated and difficult.
And would take hours and hours to record
all those Calverts. I am willing to send in Bill's line. Does that
mean the descendants of uncles and aunts, brothers and sisters? Or does
it mean just naming them and following his direct line. For
example, he's desc. from Jacob Calvert
s/o John Calvert s/o Geo. Calvert s/o Wm.
Jacob had a batch of kids and Bill is from
Francis Calvert m. Eilizabeth Witt. Robert
Calvert etc. His line is pretty well covered in O'Gorman.
Also, there are other Calverts connected
to some of my lines. Would you want
anything like that?
I can send information in the form of a
chart for these and some others. Well,
not an exact chart but following the
numbering of O'Gorman cover nearly
every # except for Bill and for some
others who are listed in O'Gorman.
Be happy to cooperate as much as I can.
Do we e-mail the info. or what?
Barbara Calvert
Christi,
There are several free web page providers out there. A copy of what I
am--slowly--developing on my maternal side is enclosed. Again, these
websites can be lost if something happens to the website provider or the
individual maintaining the website. Your information can be trashed. A
backup for the web page somewhere on rootsweb appeals to me.
Jim http://home.beseen.com/hobbies/a5122a/lewter.html
At 09:20 PM 11/10/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi George et al,
>
>I think your idea for a repository is a very good one but I also have to
>agree with the Robert's comments about not having one big database. As for
>the GenForum idea, I also disagree with that as an alternative as GenForum
>is likely to be eventually "harvested" by FTM and I don't particularly care
>for that idea! :) The idea behind the Calvert mailing list homepage was to
>be able to link to the various different lines of Calverts (and to all the
>data we can get out there on the web) of both those on and off list. Maybe
>we could come up with a "Beginning Generations" page that would then link
>off into the separate websites dealing with those lines. In other words,
>follow the tree down, say, 5 generations, to where most of us split off (at
>Leonard) and then have links to the pages dealing with each of the
>descending lines. For example, from Leonard's son William we would link to
>a page with William's genealogy and then links to pages with his children's
>information such as mine and Gary Lee's, who both descend from William
>(along with a lot of others on the list!)through different son's. This is
>easier to demonstrate than to explain! :) This way we all can keep track of
>our own "branches" but can collaborate on the first several generations
>before we "split". Another way to look at this is that we break into
>"taskforces" with each one taking on a certain "branch" and maintaining it.
>For example, I would take on the decendants of say, Richard, (John, Jacob,
>John, George, William, Leonard) unless there was no one on the father's line
>(ie. John) in which case I would take on John
>(Jacob,John,George,William,Leonard) unless there was no one... you get the
>idea. Then, where there was someone else on the line, we could collaborate
>on it and on up until we are all in the same "large" research group. Does
>this make any sense? That way we still have a "central repository" so to
>speak, but it is maintained by different folks in different places. If
>anything happens to one of the servers, etc., the rest of the database would
>still be intact. I would be more than happy to host it in the space we have
>on Rootsweb (as the space that I have is ad free and plenty big) but I
>really don't think having one large gedcom is a good idea (plus the fact
>that I HATE the ads and the layout of the new gedcom format at rootsweb).
>Ok, so that said, I'm updating the webpage as we speak and anyone out there
>that has a site that they would like linked... please speak up! Also, if
>you don't have a site but are interested in getting your data out there,
>please let me know and I'll see what we can work up to get you on the web!
>:)
>
>Christi Calvert Brogan
>Proud Rootsweb Donor
>Visit our list pages at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan
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Hello List-
I am a member of the CALVERT email list searching for information on my
ancestor Mary CALVERT.
My research shows Mary CALVERT as being born about 1586 and married in 1605
or 1606 to Isaac CHAPLINE in Yorkshire, England at the Bolton Castle. Mary
CALVERT is the sister of George CALVERT, 1st Lord Baltimore, and daughter of
Leonard CALVERT and Alicia/Grace CROSLAND/CROSSLAND.
When I initially joined the group I sent out a query as to any information on
Mary CALVERT. I received one answer from the List Manager who politely
informed me that Mary CALVERT was not listed in the O'Gorman book, but
offered to help if I would provide more information.
I belong to a separate group of researchers who are researching the above
marriage. Through this group I have amassed a ton of information on the
CALVERT and CHAPLINE families.
Please excuse me as I try to "prove my ancestor." I am the least
knowledgeable of the group, and do not serve worthy as their spokesman. I
will attempt to state sources obtained from their generosity.
Isaac CHAPLINE can be proved through the following:
- Order of Descendants of Ancient Planters - List of Approved Ancient
Planters - Isack CHAPLAINE
- Jamestowne Society - Isaack CHAPLAINE - Qualification: Burgess, 1624-25,
Location Chaplain's Choice
- First English Colony at Jamestown Virginia in 1607 Census -
1624 CHAMPLAINS VA C145 CHAPLAINE, Isaac
- The Library of Virginia - Virginia Colonial Records - CHAPLYN, Ensign --
1621, SR 03112, p.1.
- First American Families Society - Isaac CHAPLINE
- Hotton's "Arrivals from 1600 to 1700" - Ensign Isaac CHAPLINE
- "Land Book," Vol. 7, page 531, at Richmond, VA
Ensign Isaac CHAPLINE
- "Hening", Vol. 1, page 129
Ensign Isaac CHAPLINE
- "First Republic in America" by Dr. Alexander Brown, pages 571, 579, 613,
619, and 620
Ensign Isaac CHAPLINE
I have the following resources on Isaac CHAPLINE and his wife MARY CALVERT:
- "American Plantations and Colonies", Virginia People, 1624/5
Muster of the Inhabitants of Virginia Settlements, January 21-23, 1624/5
Settlers living at Chaplains Choise, Charles Cittie in Virginia
CHAPLAINE, Isack (Arrived on the Starr in 1610)
(wife) CHAPLAINE, Mary (Arrived on the James in 1622)
- "Adventures of Purse and Person", 3rd ed. 1987 and
- "Hotten's List", page 173
"Ensign Isaack CHAPLINE came to Virginia, 1610, in the Star and in the
census, 1623/4, he, Mrs. CHAPLINE's name is given as Mary...."
- "Seldens of Virginia Vol 2", Frank Allaben Genealogical Company. New York.
1911. page 467:
"Ensign Isaac CHAPLINE, of the Royal Navy, came to Virginia in the "Starr,"
as King's Council under Lord De La Warr, in 1610. He received large grants
of land on the south side of the James River, in the Parish of Jordan's. He
established his home at "Chaplain's Choice." In 1622 his wife, Mary CHAPLINE
(said to have been a CALVERT, and a kinswoman of Lord Baltimore)..."
- Notes I received from a CHAPLINE Family Historian (Dick Matteson) -
"Mary CALVERT, sister of Lord Baltimore and wife of Ensign Isaac CHAPLINE, is
very likely the last named CALVERT in the CHAPLINE history since 1650 in
America. Her apparent death by 1683 marks the end of CALVERT genealogical
influence on the CHAPLINES but help to Joseph CHAPLINE's sons came about 80
years later when those sons appealed to Lord Baltimore (Cecil) to re-validate
the grant his father had made to their father- Joseph. Cecil CALVERT not
only did that but he stated that his love for his KINSMEN dictated that he
grant the warrant- "In perpetuity". This document almost proves the close
relationship between Mary and Lord Baltimore and that they knew, communicated
and interacted with each other well past the 1600's. That warrant is in the
possession of the descendants of Joseph CHAPLINE of Washington Co, Maryland."
- "Thirteenth Generation" -
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9082/d31.htm
"As an insight into early American History and how the CHAPLINES' progressed
to the point of Joseph CHAPLINE founding Sharpsburg, we go back to the time
when America was first settled. Isaac CHAPLINE, born in England in 1585, was
the latest in a long line of aristocratic Chapline's. He entered the English
Royal Navy, where, as a result of his high family position, soon became a
Captain of one of her Majesty's ships. In 1606 he married Mary CALVERT,
daughter of Leonard CALVERT of the founding Maryland family, that governed
for 139 years from 1632 to 1771."
- Ancestry.Com (genealogy website)
- KindredKonnections.Com (genealogy website)
- LDS (Mormon genealogy website)
Isaac CHAPLINE married to Mary CALVERT (daughter of Leonard CALVERT and
Grace/Alicia CROSLAND/CROSSLAND
- Many more references not listed
I have also received the following "Controversy" re: proving that Mary
CALVERT was the wife of Isaac CHAPLINE:
- "Adventures of Purse and Person"
"The issue of Isaack and Mary Kaplan has not been established; indeed there
is no evidence that they had issue (12)".
So my question is where do I go next? Have I proved this marriage to the
satisfaction of the CALVERT-List?
Anxiously awaiting a response.
DeeDee
Baton Rouge, LA
The idea for a collection of Calvert data sounds like a good one (although
I favor the website with links to various branches). However, I have a
question about documentation--is it your plan to use source citations for
all these entries you're making or are you just entering names and dates
without documentation?
My guess is that you'd end up with a mess if you tried "passing around" the
database for various folks to add to it. Why not just ask people to send
their ged.coms to one central location to be merged with the main database?
That way, each merged entry will be documented to the person who
contributed the data.
If you do decide to link to other sites, I hope you will include a link to
my genealogy homepage for information about the line of Calverts I'm
researching:
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/i/l/Carolyn-E-Billingsley/
Thanks, Carolyn
I mail my family tree that a great Aunt did on the Calverts but can
remember who. I think it was someone on this list. I just have a webtv
so I could snail mail my papers to who ever would like my information It
goes back to 1255.
Hi George et al,
I think your idea for a repository is a very good one but I also have to
agree with the Robert's comments about not having one big database. As for
the GenForum idea, I also disagree with that as an alternative as GenForum
is likely to be eventually "harvested" by FTM and I don't particularly care
for that idea! :) The idea behind the Calvert mailing list homepage was to
be able to link to the various different lines of Calverts (and to all the
data we can get out there on the web) of both those on and off list. Maybe
we could come up with a "Beginning Generations" page that would then link
off into the separate websites dealing with those lines. In other words,
follow the tree down, say, 5 generations, to where most of us split off (at
Leonard) and then have links to the pages dealing with each of the
descending lines. For example, from Leonard's son William we would link to
a page with William's genealogy and then links to pages with his children's
information such as mine and Gary Lee's, who both descend from William
(along with a lot of others on the list!)through different son's. This is
easier to demonstrate than to explain! :) This way we all can keep track of
our own "branches" but can collaborate on the first several generations
before we "split". Another way to look at this is that we break into
"taskforces" with each one taking on a certain "branch" and maintaining it.
For example, I would take on the decendants of say, Richard, (John, Jacob,
John, George, William, Leonard) unless there was no one on the father's line
(ie. John) in which case I would take on John
(Jacob,John,George,William,Leonard) unless there was no one... you get the
idea. Then, where there was someone else on the line, we could collaborate
on it and on up until we are all in the same "large" research group. Does
this make any sense? That way we still have a "central repository" so to
speak, but it is maintained by different folks in different places. If
anything happens to one of the servers, etc., the rest of the database would
still be intact. I would be more than happy to host it in the space we have
on Rootsweb (as the space that I have is ad free and plenty big) but I
really don't think having one large gedcom is a good idea (plus the fact
that I HATE the ads and the layout of the new gedcom format at rootsweb).
Ok, so that said, I'm updating the webpage as we speak and anyone out there
that has a site that they would like linked... please speak up! Also, if
you don't have a site but are interested in getting your data out there,
please let me know and I'll see what we can work up to get you on the web!
:)
Christi Calvert Brogan
Proud Rootsweb Donor
Visit our list pages at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan
Visit our personal homepage at http://users.idworld.net/brogan
Hi I am of the Calvert line and would be willing to help. Please let me know
what to do. I am still tracing my line. But am willing to give what I have.
Thanks this is great! I have been looking for something like this for a
while.
Debi C. Miller
Debis803(a)aol.com
Nov. 10, 1999 Re Calvert info.
At this point I feel I am so old I don't get the drift. My research has
been my
husband's line. It carries thru right to
his father. There is more info. on the
later family, who went to OH, in some
Church of the Brethren books because
there were several generations of
ministers in the family.
My own connection to the Calvert line is
thru relatives such as Glasscock and
Jackson, who have a connection to
Foxworthy.
I find Nicklin most useful re info. on the
family. And someone mentioned the
Howson family---that connects to Jones
and John King has done a tremendous
am't of work on this line. Lately, he has
been out of contact. His e-mail address:
b&jking(a)new-vista1.com
I am afraid that I really don't have a clear view on what form would be
needed for
the various lines. There are Calverts in KS who m. a sister of my
aunt-in-law.
Also a Calvert went to IN and m. my
late father's 2c. So you can see what a
problem I would have. I would be willing
to help out, but I am not able to go into
endless details and print-outs etc.
Barbara M. Calvert
I thoroughly agree with the individual website & link idea put forth by Mr.
Fillerup. That seems the best way to keep up to date information readily
available. Also, a central database quickly becomes unwieldy and difficult
to manage. Link, link, link, in my opinion.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Fillerup <rcf(a)code-co.com>
To: CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [CALVERT-L] Calvert Repository
> I agree that there should be a "Repository." I disagree that any
central file should be
>created, and then added to, emailed around, circulated, or what not. I
strongly disagree with the
>concept that everybody could then contribute their "lines" to a database.
We will simply end up
>creating another monster like the LDS Ancestral File with a lot of jumbled
and conflicting
>information.
> However, we already have such a central file. It's called the Internet.
For example, for some
>time I have been creating a web page for the William Calvert-Elizabeth
Nodding line. Obviously,
>the format is HTML. It contains all the known information about William and
Elizabeth. It also
>contains a link to my William -Elizabeth Nodding page for Elizabeth's
parents. There are links to
>other web sites for descendants who are maintaining a site for those
offspring. [Now all I have
>to do is polish it all off and put it out there!]
>
> All that is really needed is a volunteer to host a page for a
particular ancestor. Link all
>of the ancestor pages together at one place and you have exactly what you
desire, a giant
>repository of Calvert information.
>
>To repeat:
> As soon as there is a central page, it will contain a link to my
William Calvert-Elizabeth
>Nodding page. All those who descend from William and Elizabeth who are
willing, will help me
>maintain that page, some by providing their own pages on their particular
lines. That way, no one
>person has to do a lot of work. In addition, the info can always be as
up-to-date as the person
>maintaining the page wants it to be.
>
> A further problem with a central data base is that there are always
conflicts in
>information. Where I manage the "home page" for a particular individual, I
can note the
>differences of dates, conflicts, questions, etc, and if somebody disputes
what's there, they can
>email me with their thoughts, evidence, etc. which I can then add in.
>
> What I am proposing is essentially identical to the USGenWeb project.
Instead of States and
>Counties, we'll have Calverts and sub-Calverts, so to speak. There will be
an official web page
>for each individual Calvert line, with additional pages for further
descendants, as the need and
>interest arises.
>
> There are a lot of families on the Net who have organized this way.
Let's take advantage of
>the tool we already have in place. Please don't attempt to create another
central data base! The
>LDS Church can't make theirs work. The only way one will work is if there
is a single individual
>who is willing to devote almost full time to trying to determine which
information is the most
>accurate on a particular individual. I can guarantee you that the
information I would submit to
>such a database on the William-Elizabeth line will conflict with what's in
O'Gorman, what's in
>the LDS Ancestral File, and with what a lot of people already have in their
own data bases.
>Don't try the "central repository" approach. It simply won't work!
>
>
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Each proposal that we have heard thus far sounds good and timely. Mike has
a good point about a central repository for the various lines of Calverts
in one central place. I, also, understand those who are worried about the
problems of a central repository.and keeping it updated. And, what do we
do when the name changes from Calvert to Jones for example?
The proposal of separate home pages for each line might be an answer, but
if something happens to the owner, the server, or the provider, the
information can be lost. Rootsweb seems to provide an answer. Most of the
genealogy societies will continue to support the project in the future,
thereby preserving the information. A committee could be established to
screen information coming into the list or a specific site.
The drawbacks to this proposal are many, but they are not insurmountable.
Genforum, as much as I use it, has become an adjunct to Family Tree Maker.
I doubt that Broderbund would hesitate to transform the information to
their use in some way. (This brings up a cautionary idea that was
previously obliquely expressed about copyright infringement. Those who
have used the work of others would have to obtain permission from the
owners of the copyright to publish on the web.)
The transmission of files can be accomplished through GEDCOM files which
all of us should be able to download. That would not limit the
participants to one particular software.
These are not proposals, just thoughts out for others to consider, Oh,
another thing, the numbering system should in some way conform to prior
research and certainly to a system approved by the Genealogical Societies..
Jim
The idea for a Calvert repository is a good one, but let's be sure known
errors do not get posted to it--and O'Gorman's book does contain some
erroneous information.
I agree that there should be a "Repository." I disagree that any central file should be
created, and then added to, emailed around, circulated, or what not. I strongly disagree with the
concept that everybody could then contribute their "lines" to a database. We will simply end up
creating another monster like the LDS Ancestral File with a lot of jumbled and conflicting
information.
However, we already have such a central file. It's called the Internet. For example, for some
time I have been creating a web page for the William Calvert-Elizabeth Nodding line. Obviously,
the format is HTML. It contains all the known information about William and Elizabeth. It also
contains a link to my William -Elizabeth Nodding page for Elizabeth's parents. There are links to
other web sites for descendants who are maintaining a site for those offspring. [Now all I have
to do is polish it all off and put it out there!]
All that is really needed is a volunteer to host a page for a particular ancestor. Link all
of the ancestor pages together at one place and you have exactly what you desire, a giant
repository of Calvert information.
To repeat:
As soon as there is a central page, it will contain a link to my William Calvert-Elizabeth
Nodding page. All those who descend from William and Elizabeth who are willing, will help me
maintain that page, some by providing their own pages on their particular lines. That way, no one
person has to do a lot of work. In addition, the info can always be as up-to-date as the person
maintaining the page wants it to be.
A further problem with a central data base is that there are always conflicts in
information. Where I manage the "home page" for a particular individual, I can note the
differences of dates, conflicts, questions, etc, and if somebody disputes what's there, they can
email me with their thoughts, evidence, etc. which I can then add in.
What I am proposing is essentially identical to the USGenWeb project. Instead of States and
Counties, we'll have Calverts and sub-Calverts, so to speak. There will be an official web page
for each individual Calvert line, with additional pages for further descendants, as the need and
interest arises.
There are a lot of families on the Net who have organized this way. Let's take advantage of
the tool we already have in place. Please don't attempt to create another central data base! The
LDS Church can't make theirs work. The only way one will work is if there is a single individual
who is willing to devote almost full time to trying to determine which information is the most
accurate on a particular individual. I can guarantee you that the information I would submit to
such a database on the William-Elizabeth line will conflict with what's in O'Gorman, what's in
the LDS Ancestral File, and with what a lot of people already have in their own data bases.
Don't try the "central repository" approach. It simply won't work!
Your proposal sounds really great. However, not all of us use FTM. I, for
example, use TMG. I have not only my own research, but I willing to enter in the
book, "The CALVERT Family, Cortland County Branch" John Betts CALVERT and its
continuation by Charles Crossman CALVERT. To send that to your repository, I
need to obtain permission from Rev. Robert Harvey CALVERT, Charles Crossman
CALVERT's son. I feel he would extend that permission as little is known about
our branch of the CALVERT family other than what we have collectively researched
out and those publications.
It will take me some time before this can be accomplished, and I do not want to
infringe upon the numbering system you are proposing. However, as we are not
part and parcel of the O'Gorman researched CALVERT's nor the Quaker branch, nor
the Anita Calvert BOURGOISE group, nor the NICKLIN group, we do not fit neatly
into the tree.
Nevertheless, it is an important branch of the CALVERTs and there are a lot of
descendants, I am certain, that are as yet unknown to us. I know for a fact,
that many of my nearer line moved to Kansas after the Civil war and that there
were other CALVERTs there, who may or may not be relatives.
Please keep us posted as to the structure and means for this deposition. It is
an answer to a concern that I have had for some time. I have plans to deposit my
research in the various counties where our CALVERTs migrated to after the
initial migration from Ireland.
I would like to see the information posted or reposited in such a way that it
cannot be lifted wholesale and claimed by someone else. I have had that happen
already and it is mighty uncomfortable. I am a willing sharer of my work, but
unwilling to place it where copyright would be denied for the research I have
done. After all is said and done, I have put forth considerable effort and
moneys to get it to the point that I have it thus far, and as long as I live, I
expect to take my research forward. Thus, I would wish to reserve the right to
make additions and corrections where I find new information.
Anyway, keep up the good work.
Charlene Calvert Pinkowski
charpink(a)gte.net
----- Original Message -----
From: <CALVERT-D-request(a)rootsweb.com>
To: <CALVERT-D(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 1:19 AM
Subject: CALVERT-D Digest V99 #185
The following website accepts queries and various data and it is already set
to receive various and sundry information on the Calvert surname.
<A HREF="http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum/finder.cgi?find=Calvert">
Calvert Family Genealogy Forum</A>
There are many individual websites dedicated to individual strains of the
Calvert family. Dewel D. Lott of Hartselle, AL has published three volumes
about the particular family from whom I descend. He has spent many years and
untold amounts of money doing this research and making it available to
descendants at minimal cost. His work is documented.
I think it's a wonderful idea however I would love to find out more about
the Howson line as that is my line. Sarah Howson Calvert, daughter of
Charles Calvert and Mary Howson married Nathaniel Jones, according to
O'Gorman. Anyone know anything about Howson???
Debi
----- Original Message -----
From: GL Murphy <glmurphy(a)bellatlantic.net>
To: <CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 8:18 AM
Subject: [CALVERT-L] Calvert Repository
ok now i understand what you want to do....I am a Virginia Calvert...but
not connected to Lord Baltimore Calvert....according to O'Gorman.....so
how would my line be handled?? tho it is in the O'Gorman book.....(my
line that is)
tho i would rather see a book out rather than it be in any of the pay
for things...with a book we can donate them to the local libraries and
plus pass on our copies to our kids....and it doenst have to cost any
more than if we were to print the pages....we dont have to make a profit
out of it that is.....I have the FTM program and have not submitted my
line on purpose...i would rather offer it for free rather than have ppl
pay for it.....
> Subject: [CALVERT-L] Calvert Repository
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:36:18 -500
> From: cybercat(a)mail.ntr.net
> To: CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> Dear Fellow Calverts,
>
> I am suggesting a massive project of assembling and publishing information
about
> the Calvert family. The primary reason for doing this would be to help
others find their
> Calvert ancestors. Beyond helping others, we would also establish a
permanent and
> growing library or repository where information about the family would be
catalogued.
> Later, when our children and grandchildren became interested in family
history, they
> have a starting point to learn about great-grandfather, etc. (Anybody who
thinks what
> we are doing now is going to be passed-on to future generations, should
stop and
> think about where they began their research.)
>
> The concept would be for each of us to "collectively place" our family
lines in
> "Ultimate Family Tree". This would be done by sharing a "common file" and
E-mailing
> the file from person to person. My proposal would be to start with the
Virginia
> Calverts. The Virginia Calverts alone would create an "Ultimate Family
Tree". with
> more than 8061 records. After this, we could add in the Quaker Calverts,
etc.
>
> To make this work, we would have to be very "fussy" about record numbers.
For
> example with the Virginia Calverts, we would be using the numbers assigned
in
> Descendants of Virginia Calverts. This would take us to at least 8061
records. When
> we added in the Quaker Calverts, we would need to move to perhaps a 10,000
series
> of record numbers. For loose branches of the family tree, we would need to
list
> "unknown individuals" to carry these lines back to their roots in the 16th
century.
> (This is all workable, however we can't have someone saying "Aunt Mytle"
is record
> no. 1 and she is going to take the place of the 1st Lord Baltimore.)
>
> The job won't be that difficult, if there are enough volunteers willing to
"add" their own
> family lines to the FTM program. Once this was up and going, we simply ask
the
> newcomers to add-in their newly discovered family lines. Also, the
"old-timers" would
> have a place for adding newly
> discovered info about their families.
>
> For my part in doing this, I will add the complete text from
> Descendants of Virginia Calverts, for the 1st Lord Balitimore and his
> son Leonard, plus all the Calverts thru the 6th generation in
> Descendants of Virginia Calverts. From this point on, we need
> volunteers. Please share your thoughts about doing this, and let me
> know if you are willing to help.
>
> George Calvert
> cybercat(a)ntr.net
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ok now i understand what you want to do....I am a Virginia Calvert...but
not connected to Lord Baltimore Calvert....according to O'Gorman.....so
how would my line be handled?? tho it is in the O'Gorman book.....(my
line that is)
tho i would rather see a book out rather than it be in any of the pay
for things...with a book we can donate them to the local libraries and
plus pass on our copies to our kids....and it doenst have to cost any
more than if we were to print the pages....we dont have to make a profit
out of it that is.....I have the FTM program and have not submitted my
line on purpose...i would rather offer it for free rather than have ppl
pay for it.....
> Subject: [CALVERT-L] Calvert Repository
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:36:18 -500
> From: cybercat(a)mail.ntr.net
> To: CALVERT-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> Dear Fellow Calverts,
>
> I am suggesting a massive project of assembling and publishing information about
> the Calvert family. The primary reason for doing this would be to help others find their
> Calvert ancestors. Beyond helping others, we would also establish a permanent and
> growing library or repository where information about the family would be catalogued.
> Later, when our children and grandchildren became interested in family history, they
> have a starting point to learn about great-grandfather, etc. (Anybody who thinks what
> we are doing now is going to be passed-on to future generations, should stop and
> think about where they began their research.)
>
> The concept would be for each of us to collectively place our family lines in
> Ultimate Family Tree. This would be done by sharing a common file and E-mailing
> the file from person to person. My proposal would be to start with the Virginia
> Calverts. The Virginia Calverts alone would create an Ultimate Family Tree. with
> more than 8061 records. After this, we could add in the Quaker Calverts, etc.
>
> To make this work, we would have to be very fussy about record numbers. For
> example with the Virginia Calverts, we would be using the numbers assigned in
> Descendants of Virginia Calverts. This would take us to at least 8061 records. When
> we added in the Quaker Calverts, we would need to move to perhaps a 10,000 series
> of record numbers. For loose branches of the family tree, we would need to list
> unknown individuals to carry these lines back to their roots in the 16th century.
> (This is all workable, however we can't have someone saying "Aunt Mytle" is record
> no. 1 and she is going to take the place of the 1st Lord Baltimore.)
>
> The job won't be that difficult, if there are enough volunteers willing to add their own
> family lines to the FTM program. Once this was up and going, we simply ask the
> newcomers to add-in their newly discovered family lines. Also, the old-timers would
> have a place for adding newly
> discovered info about their families.
>
> For my part in doing this, I will add the complete text from
> Descendants of Virginia Calverts, for the 1st Lord Balitimore and his
> son Leonard, plus all the Calverts thru the 6th generation in
> Descendants of Virginia Calverts. From this point on, we need
> volunteers. Please share your thoughts about doing this, and let me
> know if you are willing to help.
>
> George Calvert
> cybercat(a)ntr.net
--
HUGS.....
Ginger
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Can anyone help this gentleman out? I don't have an answer for him but
figured someone on the list might. He's not a subscriber, so please send
email directly to him at please(a)esva.net and cc the list. Thanks so much!
Christi Calvert Brogan
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-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stevens [mailto:please@esva.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:23 AM
To: brogan(a)idworld.net
Subject: Adam Spence
Terry Stevens
please(a)esva.net
Dear Christi
According to the Register of marylands heraldic families P. 338
Adam spence of snow hill,md was granted a manorial grant from
the Calvert family for having maternal lineage to the Calvert family.
I was wondering if you could tell me how he was related to the calverts?
This is a mystery I would love to have solved.
Thank you very much
Terry