I have been writing back and forth to a Newbie DNA group -- as opposed to the ones who
know how to ask really intelligent questions-- and wondered if a father could have 4 sons
but not all with the same mutation. Does that make sense? So the answer is the
father's DNA never changes but EACH son has the possibility of a mutation -- specific
to him. So the fact that it looks like Moses may have a reversal of numbers on two of his
markers from the rest of us leading up to presume that Moses himself had the same results,
does not leave out the possibility that he could be the son of either William Sr or John
Sr -- whose other lines do not? have this same situation. However, if we ever get any more
lines that have the same reversed mutations, we would look to Moses first as the patriarch
of that line.
Two lines from Moses descend from two brothers -- just in the last two generations (a
father and an uncle were tested)-- and one has the results of the majority and one has a
mutation so it is probable that the mutation occurred in the last generation or two --
depending on who was tested in that line -- the father or the son
So at this point -- without more people being tested -- it looks like the line from
William Sr and the one line from John Sr have the same DNA that James (Isabel) had --
since they are known descendants from different sons and each matches exactly. The two
lines from John Sr descend from different sons of John Jr and the line from John Jr's
youngest son has a difference of one.
On the 67 markers, we have had three lines tested, two from John Jr and one from Hiram --
the line from the youngest son of John Jr is the same as the other two except on the one
marker mentioned earlier
the line from Hiram has one marker difference from the other two
The line from the oldest son of John Sr. matches the majority on all of the markers
Anxiously awaiting the results on the line from William Sr which probably won't tell
us a thing about Hiram <sigh>
I'ld love for the line from Absolom that tested on Sorenson (or find another line to
test of familytreedna) to see how we would match on 67 markers.
Supposedly the greater number of markers that match -- the closer the common ancestor
would be. At this point in time with 37 markers tested --one of the lines from Moses has a
difference of two from the majority (Moses' two reversed numbers) so he has 35/37
results to compare with the 65/67 results for those who have tested to that many markers
making it look like the 65/67 is a better match BUT if that line tested to 67 markers,
they may match perfectly on the later markers, Making them also 65/67.
The same explanation holds true for the 3 lines from the thrice married James also -- two
are 35/37 and one is 36/37. More markers are needed
The two lines with the most mutations are one line from Moses (but at least he had the
reversed numbers like the others) and the line from Joyce's Samuel. Again, more
markers might change the dynamics on those results. The other positives about their
results is that all of the changes are on fast mutating markers other than one for each
that is not -- both Hiram's one mutation and the youngest son of John Jr's
mutation were on slow mutating markers BUT none of the four have the same mutation.
Another positive note for Samuel (and all of us except for one line from the thrice
married James) is that the majority of people with our haplogroup R1b have a specific
result on one of the markers and only 2% of the people with our haplogroup have the
results that we have.-- and only 6 % on another marker that we all have except for the
three lines from Moses who have the reversed numbers.
I don't have the majority results for markers 38-67 but those two are pretty
interesting as far as scarcity from the majority on the first 37 markers.
So still waiting on 67 markers from line of William Sr and also 37 markers on line from
James (Isabel Jones) Great things are happening. <smile> Take care. Marilyn