When I was going to school at Sac State in the 50's, poking around the
library I found a book listing a John Callison who ran a trap line in British
Columbia at that time.I have often wondered what branch of the family he
came from.
John
In a message dated 8/24/2013 2:56:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
gneolog(a)aol.com writes:
Good morning all, Meet Peter, He is from a COLLISON line from the British
Isles to British Columbia, Canada in 1873. The first two generations that
he knows of are John and his son, William. Peter, the reason that I make
note of this interesting tidbit to the Callison maillist is that the names
James, John and William are utilized extensively in the early Callison family
-- especially in the line of James and Isabell Callison ( as opposed to
the family of his relative, a younger James Callison who used Anthony and
Isaac in the early generations). Why am I sending all of this info to the
Callison group? Because Peter is from a female Collison BUT he had one of his
cousins from a direct male Collison line DNA tested and he matches Allen in
my line from John Jr and John from William (sons of John Sr.) on 67 out
of 67 markers. I know of no male Callison in our American Callison line who
went to the British Isles to live but will be going all of my records with
a fine tooth !
comb. The most logical explanation is that James (Of James and Isabella)
had a sibling who stayed in Ireland. But it blows my mind to think of a 67
out of 67 markers matchi from an ancestor who was born about 300 years ago.
You would expect something like this from a shared ancestor of only 100
years or so ago. Does anyone know of anyone in your direct lines who lived
in the England/Ireland area in the early 1800s. Thankfully both the older
and younger James left wills so we know about their sons -- except for the
possibility of a Jonathan who may have been a son of the younger James but
not named in his will raising the suspicion that he was deceased at the
time of the will -- 1808, i think. There was still a Callison family in
Armagh, Ireland in the 1860 -1870 time period with the family headed by Thomas
Callison. They were in the Market Hill area so not sure how close that was
to Kilmore Parish where our Callison family lived -- or at least one place
that we know th!
ey lived. There were also COLLISON families in Armagh in this time per
iod. The Callison and Collisons have the same haplogroup - R 1b1a2 -- but
NOT the Cullisons. This is a far distant ancestry -- lots of different
surnames belong to this haplogroup. When comparing the y-DNA results with the
2 Collisons from England -- there are many differences in the markers..
However, Peter, your. I particular Collison family is definitely CALLISON..
It is also interesting that we have a branch from our tree living in Fort
St. John British Columbia, Canada. This would be a line from John and Susan
Fulhart Callison in John Callison Jr. line. I have uploaded my John
Callison Jr. tree to
ancestry.com but there are so many other branches that tie
into it, it is not anywhere close to being complete for the Callison family.
If anyone wants to work on it and add their line, let me know and I will
make you an EDITOR. <smile> The name of the tree is John Callison2.GED
I guess this is your grandfather -- just trying to get a "feel" for the
family
William Henry Collison in entry for John Maxwell Collison, "British
Columbia Birth Registrations, 1854-1903"
Name:
John Maxwell Collison
Event Type:
Birth
Event Date:
19 May 1883
Event Place:
Metlakahtla, B C, British Columbia, Canada
Gender:
Male
Father's Name:
William Henry Collison
Mother's Name:
Marion Goodwin
Tribe or Clan:
List Number:
Registration Date:
11 Feb 1953
GS Film number:
2134883
Digital Folder Number:
004401567
Image Number:
175
Affiliate Film Number:
B13813
Registration Number:
83 09 905585
William Henry Collison in entry for John Maxwell Collison, "British
Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986"
Name:
John Maxwell Collison
Event Type:
Death
Event Date:
16 Oct 1954
Event Place:
Smithers, British Columbia, Canada
Gender:
Male
Age:
71
Marital Status:
Married
Birth Date:
19 May 1883
Birthplace:
Metlakahtla, B C
Father's Name:
William Henry Collison
Mother's Name:
Marian Goodwin
Spouse's Name:
Mabel Wells
Tribe or Clan:
Affiliate Film Number:
B13221
GS Film number:
2032967
Digital Folder Number:
004438079
Image Number:
01896
Registration Number:
54-09-010372
There is a family tree on ancestry that has that William Henry COLLISON
was born Nov 12, 1847 in County Armagh, Ireland. and a note attached to this
tree
"Picture of this Wm.H. Collison,& his wife & 5 of their ch.: taken in
1890. I am not related too, or researching this family, I did come across the
photo of his family,and wanted to direct any of his researchers the info.
This photo is accesible on line, at the internet site, titled The National
Archives Experience,digital vault,the picture is titled Anglican Missionary
To The First Nations." The 1901 census of Canada does list Ireland as his
place of birth and 1891 census lists his parents as born in Ireland. but if
we can ascertain ARMAGH that would be really neat. I have sent a note to
the owner of the tree for any additional info. Enough for now. Take care,
Marilyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Botham <peterbotham(a)me.com>
To: gneolog <gneolog(a)aol.com>
Cc: Mike Collison <mcollison(a)telus.net>
Sent: Tue, Mar 5, 2013 12:31 am
Subject: Results of DNA tests
Hi Marilyn,
Thank you for responding to the news of Mike (and I) getting involved in
the
Family Tree DNA research.
You may remember me f rom an email you sent 5 April 2008, when you were
suggesting that I join the CULLISON DNA project on
familytreedna.com. I
also
exchanged an email or two with Neil Collison at that time.
It has taken me this long of low key suggesting to two or three cousins to
to
get to this point. Actually, the cousins were willing, but I was slow in
getting
to it!! As I said, everything was low key so because we weren't really in
a
hurry, our action was extended out further than it really should have
been!! As
I am related to my cousins through my mother being sister to their
fathers, it's
obvious that I couldn't submit my own cells for sampling.
Your description of the Collisons/Callisons of your knowledge and
acquaintance
is most interesting. It is sad indeed that Allen (or Allan? - is that
Allan
Bryant Collison whose name came through my cousin Mike on a list from
Family
Tree DNA yesterday?) it is sad that he passed away. You say that his wife
Ginger
is the main researcher -what is a CC?)
I am hoping that the names you mention have been charted on a family tree
chart
or maybe, several trees. How far back does the information go?
Are there many other family members also pursuing family information?
You ask about our family - obviously the Collisons, my mother's maiden
name. My
grandfather was William Henry Collison, b. 1847, d. 1922, who came with
his wife
as missionaries for the Church of England (Episcopalian in the US) to
British
Columbia in 1873. His father was John J Collison, b. 1809, d. 1885 and his
mother Mary Emily Maxwell, b. 1813, d. 1881 in Clontarf, a suburb of
Dublin,
Ireland. I can go no further back than that, so we may not be able to
connect
up our two sides.
Marilyn, my questions are as follows: How are you connected to the
Callisons?
Have you (or anyone) been able to connect up the Callisons/Collison that
you
mention into one coherent family tree? (Rereading your letter, I see that
you
have had problems in trying to connect everyone) Do you know when the
Callisons
you have mentioned immigrated to the US?
I guess I have asked questions for which there is not much information. If
so,
sorry! You say that you're still trying to connect up some of these
people into
one family. But, if you do have dates, and connections already
established I
would be most appreciative to hear of them.
To add to what I've mentioned above about William Henry Collison and his
wife
(Marion (nee Goodwin), they had ten children of which eight lived. William
Edwin
had three girls - no grandchildren
Henry Alexander had four children
Emily Charlotte had four children
Alice Maxwell - no issue
John Maxwell - had seven children (John Maxwell was the grandfather of
Mike and
myself)
Herbert Thomas - had one child
Elsie Marion had one child
Arthur James had two children
Marilyn, once again thanks for your interest and the nice informative
letter you
sent. I hope we can keep this going and come up with something clear for
our
records.
Best regards,
Peter Botham
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