Good morning all, Meet Peter, He is from a COLLISON line from the British Isles to
British Columbia, Canada in 1873. The first two generations that he knows of are John and
his son, William. Peter, the reason that I make note of this interesting tidbit to the
Callison maillist is that the names James, John and William are utilized extensively in
the early Callison family -- especially in the line of James and Isabell Callison ( as
opposed to the family of his relative, a younger James Callison who used Anthony and Isaac
in the early generations). Why am I sending all of this info to the Callison group?
Because Peter is from a female Collison BUT he had one of his cousins from a direct male
Collison line DNA tested and he matches Allen in my line from John Jr and John from
William (sons of John Sr.) on 67 out of 67 markers. I know of no male Callison in our
American Callison line who went to the British Isles to live but will be going all of my
records with a fine tooth comb. The most logical explanation is that James (Of James and
Isabella) had a sibling who stayed in Ireland. But it blows my mind to think of a 67 out
of 67 markers matchi from an ancestor who was born about 300 years ago. You would expect
something like this from a shared ancestor of only 100 years or so ago. Does anyone know
of anyone in your direct lines who lived in the England/Ireland area in the early 1800s.
Thankfully both the older and younger James left wills so we know about their sons --
except for the possibility of a Jonathan who may have been a son of the younger James but
not named in his will raising the suspicion that he was deceased at the time of the will
-- 1808, i think. There was still a Callison family in Armagh, Ireland in the 1860 -1870
time period with the family headed by Thomas Callison. They were in the Market Hill area
so not sure how close that was to Kilmore Parish where our Callison family lived -- or at
least one place that we know they lived. There were also COLLISON families in Armagh in
this time period. The Callison and Collisons have the same haplogroup - R 1b1a2 -- but NOT
the Cullisons. This is a far distant ancestry -- lots of different surnames belong to this
haplogroup. When comparing the y-DNA results with the 2 Collisons from England -- there
are many differences in the markers.. However, Peter, your. I particular Collison family
is definitely CALLISON.. It is also interesting that we have a branch from our tree living
in Fort St. John British Columbia, Canada. This would be a line from John and Susan
Fulhart Callison in John Callison Jr. line. I have uploaded my John Callison Jr. tree to
ancestry.com but there are so many other branches that tie into it, it is not anywhere
close to being complete for the Callison family. If anyone wants to work on it and add
their line, let me know and I will make you an EDITOR. <smile> The name of the tree
is John Callison2.GED
I guess this is your grandfather -- just trying to get a "feel" for the family
William Henry Collison in entry for John Maxwell Collison, "British Columbia Birth
Registrations, 1854-1903"
Name:
John Maxwell Collison
Event Type:
Birth
Event Date:
19 May 1883
Event Place:
Metlakahtla, B C, British Columbia, Canada
Gender:
Male
Father's Name:
William Henry Collison
Mother's Name:
Marion Goodwin
Tribe or Clan:
List Number:
Registration Date:
11 Feb 1953
GS Film number:
2134883
Digital Folder Number:
004401567
Image Number:
175
Affiliate Film Number:
B13813
Registration Number:
83 09 905585
William Henry Collison in entry for John Maxwell Collison, "British Columbia Death
Registrations, 1872-1986"
Name:
John Maxwell Collison
Event Type:
Death
Event Date:
16 Oct 1954
Event Place:
Smithers, British Columbia, Canada
Gender:
Male
Age:
71
Marital Status:
Married
Birth Date:
19 May 1883
Birthplace:
Metlakahtla, B C
Father's Name:
William Henry Collison
Mother's Name:
Marian Goodwin
Spouse's Name:
Mabel Wells
Tribe or Clan:
Affiliate Film Number:
B13221
GS Film number:
2032967
Digital Folder Number:
004438079
Image Number:
01896
Registration Number:
54-09-010372
There is a family tree on ancestry that has that William Henry COLLISON was born Nov 12,
1847 in County Armagh, Ireland. and a note attached to this tree
"Picture of this Wm.H. Collison,& his wife & 5 of their ch.: taken in 1890. I
am not related too, or researching this family, I did come across the photo of his
family,and wanted to direct any of his researchers the info. This photo is accesible on
line, at the internet site, titled The National Archives Experience,digital vault,the
picture is titled Anglican Missionary To The First Nations." The 1901 census of
Canada does list Ireland as his place of birth and 1891 census lists his parents as born
in Ireland. but if we can ascertain ARMAGH that would be really neat. I have sent a note
to the owner of the tree for any additional info. Enough for now. Take care, Marilyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Botham <peterbotham(a)me.com>
To: gneolog <gneolog(a)aol.com>
Cc: Mike Collison <mcollison(a)telus.net>
Sent: Tue, Mar 5, 2013 12:31 am
Subject: Results of DNA tests
Hi Marilyn,
Thank you for responding to the news of Mike (and I) getting involved in the
Family Tree DNA research.
You may remember me f rom an email you sent 5 April 2008, when you were
suggesting that I join the CULLISON DNA project on
familytreedna.com. I also
exchanged an email or two with Neil Collison at that time.
It has taken me this long of low key suggesting to two or three cousins to to
get to this point. Actually, the cousins were willing, but I was slow in getting
to it!! As I said, everything was low key so because we weren't really in a
hurry, our action was extended out further than it really should have been!! As
I am related to my cousins through my mother being sister to their fathers, it's
obvious that I couldn't submit my own cells for sampling.
Your description of the Collisons/Callisons of your knowledge and acquaintance
is most interesting. It is sad indeed that Allen (or Allan? - is that Allan
Bryant Collison whose name came through my cousin Mike on a list from Family
Tree DNA yesterday?) it is sad that he passed away. You say that his wife Ginger
is the main researcher -what is a CC?)
I am hoping that the names you mention have been charted on a family tree chart
or maybe, several trees. How far back does the information go?
Are there many other family members also pursuing family information?
You ask about our family - obviously the Collisons, my mother's maiden name. My
grandfather was William Henry Collison, b. 1847, d. 1922, who came with his wife
as missionaries for the Church of England (Episcopalian in the US) to British
Columbia in 1873. His father was John J Collison, b. 1809, d. 1885 and his
mother Mary Emily Maxwell, b. 1813, d. 1881 in Clontarf, a suburb of Dublin,
Ireland. I can go no further back than that, so we may not be able to connect
up our two sides.
Marilyn, my questions are as follows: How are you connected to the Callisons?
Have you (or anyone) been able to connect up the Callisons/Collison that you
mention into one coherent family tree? (Rereading your letter, I see that you
have had problems in trying to connect everyone) Do you know when the Callisons
you have mentioned immigrated to the US?
I guess I have asked questions for which there is not much information. If so,
sorry! You say that you're still trying to connect up some of these people into
one family. But, if you do have dates, and connections already established I
would be most appreciative to hear of them.
To add to what I've mentioned above about William Henry Collison and his wife
(Marion (nee Goodwin), they had ten children of which eight lived. William Edwin
had three girls - no grandchildren
Henry Alexander had four children
Emily Charlotte had four children
Alice Maxwell - no issue
John Maxwell - had seven children (John Maxwell was the grandfather of Mike and
myself)
Herbert Thomas - had one child
Elsie Marion had one child
Arthur James had two children
Marilyn, once again thanks for your interest and the nice informative letter you
sent. I hope we can keep this going and come up with something clear for our
records.
Best regards,
Peter Botham