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he start of a new year seemed like a good time to re-post my connections
with the Caldwell/Coldwell group.
Our tree starts with Robert Coldwell a son of James Coldwell and Margaret
McDougal, b. 23-July-1802 in Norton Lauder Berkwikshire. m Elizabeth Lauder
White b.10-Apr-1805 Dalkeith Scot. Maried 28-Jan-1824 in Dalkeith.
Family of nine know children of whom Ellen (Helen) Coldwell is of main
interest as she married Alexander Watt the gr.grandfather of my wife,
Doreen Watt.
Alexander Watt was born in Fraserburgh Scotland 20-Feb-1822
Any and all information on this family will be appreciated.
Larry McCool in Calgary Alberta Canada.
Larry McCool
mccoollh(a)cadvision.com
Linda,
Here is what I have. I didn't do the research so can't say it is all
documented.
Henry HOLSTINE b 1720 Craig's Creek, Augusta Co. Va. died 1804 Craig's
Creek, Botetourt Co., Va Father Henry mother unknown
Mersey MCCLURE b ? Va. died 1810 Craig's, Botetourt Co Va parents
unknown.
1. Henry III b 1761 Craig's Creek, Augusta Co. Va md Margaret FRAME
2 Jul 1781 C's C, Botetourt Co Va. d bef 1831 C's C. Botetourt, Va.
2 Stephen b 1762 C'sC, Augusta, Va md Jane LOONEY 1 Jun 1781
Botetourt, Va d 1831/35 C's C, Botetourt, Va
3 Elizabeth b 1764 C's C, Botetourt, Va died Sullivan Co., Tenn
4 Mersey b 1766 C's C, Botetourt, Va died aft 1848 Meigs Co.,
Tenn.
5 Rachel b 1768 C'a C, Botetourt, Va. died after 1850 Boone Co., Va
6 Sarah b1770 C's C , Botetourt, Va
7 Mary b 1772 C's C, Botetourt, Va
8 Ruth b 1774 C's C, Botetourt, Va
Ruby
Hi Linda,
I couldn't find the parents of Mersey MCCLURE. I only have the family
group sheet for Henry and Mersey and thier 8 childern.
Ruby
stokesra(a)wwics.com
Any one have any information on John Coldwell who married Latitia (Lettial)
Fulton in Phil PA, 8-28-1731 (First Presbyterian Church Records)? I believe
this is the same couple later in Prince Edward County VA and John may be the
Uncle or Father of Thomas Coldwell who married Delphia Ballard. I have no
record of what happened to John and Latita after the Rev War when Thomas
moved to Hawkins County TN.
Chris Coldwell
New to the list so if this is old news, please pardon.
In research I did a year or two back on Prince Edward County Coldwells I
came up with what I think are more or less three groups (maybe related,
maybe not, who knows?). I have a gif of a county map with the three creeks
mentioned below, which shows the Fort Creek between the other two (Vaughn
Creek to the North). I gathered this from going thru the PEC deed book (and
Amelia).
Coldwell Groups in Prince Edward County, VA.
1. Vaughn's Creek Coldwells
George (d.1742, Amelia County Will book; deed book) wife Sarah.
Sons: George (moved to Bedford County 1757)
Henry
Thomas Coldwell (wife Elizabeth) Sons George, Thomas, Paul, Henry, John,
Andrew
John Coldwell, Sr.
John Coldwell Jr.
The Vaughn Creek Coldwell neighbors were Ewing (a Samuel Coldwell is a
grandson of Samuel Ewing) Colo Randolph, Boyd, Armstrong, Stone.
2. The Spring Creek Coldwells
John Coldwell. Neighbors, Wallace, Southerland, Bryan, Byrd, Baker,
Challice, LeNeve (the clerk who spelled the name "Coldwell"), LeGrand,
Simmons, Gillespie, Walden
3. The Fort Creek Coldwells (subset of Spring Creek?)
Thomas Coldwell and Thomas Coldwell, Jr. John and Latitia Coldwell sell land
to Thomas Coldwell on Fort Creek north of Spring Creek.
The petition for Religious Liberty (1776) from Prince Edward County has five
John Coldwells and the above accounts for four of them.
Don't know about the other groups but Thomas Coldwell on Fort Creek (my gggg
grandfather) continued spelling his name Coldwell, with some later
descendants (as my cousin Jim has said) changing it to Caldwell.
Chris Coldwell
Hi, I read your message on the CALDWELL list. My g g g grandfather John
CALDWELL b. 1810 Ohio named one of his sons David. I have not seen the name
David mentioned before for CALDWELLs. There are alot of Johns which is my
problem! I am hoping that perhaps this David you mention might be my John's
ancestor.
Here is what I know:
John CALDWELL b. 1810 Ross Co. Ohio d. 1857 Andrew Co MO.
married Margaret CLOUSER 1855 Ross Co. Ohio
Children:
Simon C.
Joseph H. (my g grandfather)
Louisa
David G.
John Louis
Eliza
Henry Clayton
Mary S
James
Emily
I also know John had a brother William b. 1808 Ohio. Do you think the David
you mentioned might tie into this line?
Thank you,
Christine
My information from various sources:
Samuel (b. 1705 Londonderry, d. 1758, Pr. Edw. VA) EWING's son George
married Elinor CALDWELL
Samuel EWING's brother Alexander's daughter Alinor m. John CALDWELL
Alexander EWING's son George m. Margaret CALDWELL, 1783, Blount, TN
Alexander's brother/son Alexander m. Sallie CALDWELL
Does this help anyone?
Ann in CA
Still searching VA for Isaac (1860), son of Thomas CALDWELL (c. 1830).
HELP!
janda, Do you see any COLDWELL spellings in your chain? I am unable to
tie my East TN ancestors back to anyone anywhere. History of New
Providence Presbyderian says they were part its formation. It is in
Hawkins County TN a bit away from orig location and is visable from
US11W.
Thomas COLDWELL II b 17 Jun 1779 d 13 Feb 1853 and wife Sarah "Sally"
(FORGEY) are buried at New Providence Presbyterian Church visable from hwy
US11W in Hawkins co TN.
His father Thomas COLDWELL 1 and her FORGEY father seem to have been in
Rev War and aquired land somewhat north of this church. They formed a
Presby church (possibly this one which then moved south). I don't know the
location of Green County and wondered if it could be the orig location of
my family. Thomas COLDWELL 1 appears with a list of names of women as his
wife (with Delphia spelled 2 ways and a couple of others), there is some
difficulity there. Delphia does appear in a newspaper announcement by
Thomas stating he is in control of family money and she cannot spend it.
Both CALDWELL and COLDWELL often appear as last names for the same person
at various times, my grandfather appears in all his records as CALDWELL
and his brother (and my cousins who are his descendats) appears strictly
as COLDWELL. I was wondering if any indication that your TN CALDWELLs
could be my COLDWELLs. Thanks for presenting your material, Jim
James Forga CALDWELL/COLDWELL
On Sun, 4 Jan 1998 janda(a)DIXIENET1.COM wrote:
> I live in Thomasville, AL and I am a descendant of Andrew Caldwell and
> his wife,Martha (surname unk.) of Drumore Township, Lancaster Co., PA.
> they had four sons, David (1725-1824), Andrew (1735-1808), Alexander
> (1735-1784), and John (1736-1812).
> Only David and Alexander had children. I am interested in both of those
> families, but am descended from Alexander and Margaret through their
> son, Thomas (1779-1857 and wife, Eleanor Collier Johnson
> (ca1780-90--1850). Their daughter, Jane (Jennie), ( b. 12 Dec. 1812,
> d.17 Feb, 1882) m. William Scott White, ( b.1 July 1815, d. 8 April
> 1882) on 24 march 1836. Their son, Richard Jasper White, b. 18 Aug.
> 1839, d. 28 Dec. 1920, was my great-grandfather. We have good records
> from the generation beginning with Jane Caldwell and William Jasper
> White, but there are gaps in the earlier generations. Notably, we do
> not know the surname of Andrew's wife, Margaret or just when they came
> to America or where they came from. There are several stories or
> theories. We do know that David and Alexander left PA and went to
> Greensboro, Guilford Co., NC. David stayed there is was a noted
> physician, doctor, and farmer. At least two of Alexander's sons moved
> on into what became East Tennessee. Samuel moved into the area prior to
> Tennessee becoming a state. Thomas probably moved there later. Both
> settled in Greene Co., TN. in the Bethesda (Cedar Lane) area and helped
> to establish the Bethesda Cumberland Presbyterian Church (sometimes
> known as "The Green Shed" since brush arbor meetings were held there in
> the very early days). Any information about this family and their
> relatives/descendants/ connections would be welcome. MAJ
>
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Jim CALDWELL
O'Fallon, MO
I live in Thomasville, AL and I am a descendant of Andrew Caldwell and
his wife,Martha (surname unk.) of Drumore Township, Lancaster Co., PA.
they had four sons, David (1725-1824), Andrew (1735-1808), Alexander
(1735-1784), and John (1736-1812).
Only David and Alexander had children. I am interested in both of those
families, but am descended from Alexander and Margaret through their
son, Thomas (1779-1857 and wife, Eleanor Collier Johnson
(ca1780-90--1850). Their daughter, Jane (Jennie), ( b. 12 Dec. 1812,
d.17 Feb, 1882) m. William Scott White, ( b.1 July 1815, d. 8 April
1882) on 24 march 1836. Their son, Richard Jasper White, b. 18 Aug.
1839, d. 28 Dec. 1920, was my great-grandfather. We have good records
from the generation beginning with Jane Caldwell and William Jasper
White, but there are gaps in the earlier generations. Notably, we do
not know the surname of Andrew's wife, Margaret or just when they came
to America or where they came from. There are several stories or
theories. We do know that David and Alexander left PA and went to
Greensboro, Guilford Co., NC. David stayed there is was a noted
physician, doctor, and farmer. At least two of Alexander's sons moved
on into what became East Tennessee. Samuel moved into the area prior to
Tennessee becoming a state. Thomas probably moved there later. Both
settled in Greene Co., TN. in the Bethesda (Cedar Lane) area and helped
to establish the Bethesda Cumberland Presbyterian Church (sometimes
known as "The Green Shed" since brush arbor meetings were held there in
the very early days). Any information about this family and their
relatives/descendants/ connections would be welcome. MAJ
Sorry about those tabs. I should have known better. :))
A. In The Scotch Irish by Charles A. Hanna, Vol. I, page 532, I found
an Andrew Calwell and an Alexander Colewell as lessees of John
Cunningham in the Precinct of Portlough, County of Donegal, 1619.
B. In The Muster Roll of the County of Donegal 1630 A.D., I
found the following: 1) In the Barony de Rapho, James 'conningham',
undertaker, reported John Calwell, Swords and Halberts 2) Barony
de Rapho, The Lord Bpp of Rapho reported John Calwell, Snaphances only
3) The Churchlands of Tayboyne reported Robert Callwell, Swords and
Snaphances 4)Barony de Eneshone, The Lord Chichester reported Andrew
Cadwell and Mathew Cadwell, Alexander Cadwell, Swords onely.
[All spelling as found. This site can be found at
http://members.aol.com/Manus/dngl1630.html.County Donegal is basically
in Raphoe Barony (an obsolete division of land). Inishowen Barony
is adjoining Raphoe to the north east.]
Diane, you (or others) may have mentioned other factors related to the
CALDWELL move from Scotland to Ireland but one of the discussions mentions
that the significant leader of much of the shift in power in Brit Isles
areas was a cousin of the CALDWELLs. Oliver CROMWELL was the grandson of
Ann of Cauldwell, In 1649 he "..was sent to Ireland as Governor, Lord
Lieutenant and commander of forces. His cousins Joseph, John, David and
Daniel CALDWELL went with him." He "..was elected Protector in England in
1653. Some of the CALDWELLs remained in Ireland and prospered there. After
his (Oliver CROMWELL's) death and the restoration of Charles II as King in
1660, the CALDWELL's power and influence nearly ended. Some of them
emigrated to America and Europe to escape the enmity of King Charles II."
Also various weather factors and the acts of English farmers ending
acceptance of items from Ireland also pushed Irish out.
My sister has visited the ruins (sp? rock piles) of CALDWELL CASTLE
relatively close to the sea in NW Ireland near the British/Irish area.
It was sort of center of a portion of CALDWELLs who landed in Delaware 10
Dec 1727 followed by living in PA and then VA where they were part of
setting up a Presbyterian "sub-" colony.
This information largely gathered in "CALDWELLS and their Cousins of
Virginia and S.E. Kentucky" by Archie CALDWELL Copyright 1995
On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, L.D.Swift wrote:
> I've really been boning up on Irish genealogy. Figure the more I know
> the better I can direct a professional in his/her efforts in finding OUR
> Caldwells in Ireland. Some exciting things I've found recently (many of
> these sources may be in your nearby library):
>
> 1. Ballybogan is shown as a Townland, in the parish of Clonleigh, in the
> County of Donegal on a map, page 66, in Parish Maps of Ireland
> (depicting all townlands in the four Ulster Counties of Armagh, Donegal,
> Londonderry and Tyrone), Brian Mitchell, Closson Press, 1988. For those
> of you who are not as obsessed with the early stuff as I am a reminder -
> John and Jennett's earliest known land patent was named Ballybuggin in
> 1688. Their second was named Clonlett in the same year.
>
> 2. Miss Mary Couper Williams in her "Notes on the Caldwell Family of
> Kent County, Delaware," (1916) in flowery language insinuated that John
> Caldwell's arrival in MD may have been related to the Battle of Bothwell
> Bridge (1679) in Scotland. As I've learned some Irish history, I've
> realized how much more complicated the Scots immigration to Ireland then
> on to America is. I have also found evidence in census substitutes of
> much earlier Caldwell immigration to Ireland (see A. and B. below) . You
> may want to read about the Plantation of Ireland, beginning 1608-10, and
> the Scotch Undertakers. One interesting book is The Scotch-Irish, A
> Social History by James G. Leyburn. I bought mine at Borders.
>
> A. In The Scotch Irish by Charles A. Hanna, Vol. I, page 532, I
found an Andrew Calwell and an Alexander Colewell as lessees of
John Cunningham in the Precinct of Portlough, County of
> Donegal, 1619.
>
> B. In The Muster Roll of the County of Donegal 1630 A.D., I
found the following:
1) In the Barony de Rapho, James 'conningham undertaker, reported
John Calwell, Swords and Halberts
2) Barony de Rapho, The Lord Bpp of Rapho reported John
Calwell, Snaphances only
3)The Churchlands of Tayboyne reported Robert Callwell,
Swords and Snaphances
4)Barony de Eneshone, The Lord Chichester reported Andrew
> Cadwell and Mathew Cadwell, Alexander Cadwell, Swords onely.
[All spelling as found. This site can be found at
> http://members.aol.com/Manus/dngl1630.html.
County Donegal is basically in Raphoe Barony (an obsolete division of
land). Inishowen Barony is adjoining Raphoe to the north east.]
>
> Hope this is of interest to some of you.
>
> Diane Caldwell Swift
> ldswift@indy,net
>
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Jim CALDWELL
O'Fallon, MO
I've really been boning up on Irish genealogy. Figure the more I know
the better I can direct a professional in his/her efforts in finding OUR
Caldwells in Ireland. Some exciting things I've found recently (many of
these sources may be in your nearby library):
1. Ballybogan is shown as a Townland, in the parish of Clonleigh, in the
County of Donegal on a map, page 66, in Parish Maps of Ireland
(depicting all townlands in the four Ulster Counties of Armagh, Donegal,
Londonderry and Tyrone), Brian Mitchell, Closson Press, 1988. For those
of you who are not as obsessed with the early stuff as I am a reminder -
John and Jennett's earliest known land patent was named Ballybuggin in
1688. Their second was named Clonlett in the same year.
2. Miss Mary Couper Williams in her "Notes on the Caldwell Family of
Kent County, Delaware," (1916) in flowery language insinuated that John
Caldwell's arrival in MD may have been related to the Battle of Bothwell
Bridge (1679) in Scotland. As I've learned some Irish history, I've
realized how much more complicated the Scots immigration to Ireland then
on to America is. I have also found evidence in census substitutes of
much earlier Caldwell immigration to Ireland (see A. and B. below) . You
may want to read about the Plantation of Ireland, beginning 1608-10, and
the Scotch Undertakers. One interesting book is The Scotch-Irish, A
Social History by James G. Leyburn. I bought mine at Borders.
A. In The Scotch Irish by Charles A. Hanna, Vol. I, page 532, I found
an Andrew Calwell and an Alexander Colewell as lessees of John
Cunningham in the Precinct of Portlough, County of
Donegal, 1619.
B. In The Muster Roll of the County of Donegal 1630 A.D., I found the
following: 1) In the Barony de Rapho, James 'conningham',
undertaker, reported John Calwell, Swords and Halberts 2) Barony de
Rapho, The Lord Bpp of Rapho reported John Calwell, Snaphances only 3)
The Churchlands of Tayboyne reported Robert Callwell, Swords and
Snaphances 4)Barony de Eneshone, The Lord Chichester reported Andrew
Cadwell and Mathew Cadwell, Alexander Cadwell, Swords onely. [All
spelling as found. This site can be found at
http://members.aol.com/Manus/dngl1630.html. County Donegal is basically
in Raphoe Barony (an obsolete division of land). Inishowen Barony is
adjoining Raphoe to the north east.]
Hope this is of interest to some of you.
Diane Caldwell Swift
ldswift@indy,net