Hello,
Loved the story about your g-grandfather. Wished I could have helped, BUT,
would love to see a scan of the train photo. I belong to a railway
screensaver club over here in Europe and maybe I can post the picture and
see if someone can identify the train, the area, or whatever.
John Coldwell
ex-Canadian (Prince Rupert) and now living in Linz, Austria for past year. I
have a large Canadian family history compiled over the last 15 years. Fun
isn't it?? :-)
J
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From: <KenHarrison11(a)cs.com>
To: <CALDWELL-SCOTLAND-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 6:34 AM
Subject: [CALDWELL-SCOTLAND] Medical Advice - cause of death
Listers,
Without writing individually to all of the over 30 persons who have
responded
so far to my message below, I'd like to express my thanks on each
of their
Lists for their help, and give each List an update on the answers.
First, following is my original query. I'll continue at the end .......
*************
Date: 1/8/02
I'm writing this to several Lists, so my apologies in advance to those of
you
who will read this several times .......
Is there SKS with medical knowledge who can explain something for me?
My GGgfather died in 1864 of what was loosely termed "damned foolishness"
in
the family. 30 years ago his last-surviving grandaughter used this
term
and
explained to me that he had ridden on a railway locomotive on some
inaugural
run and caught a "chill" or something like that, and died
of that.
Then this past year I found his death certificate, which says the cause of
death was "peritonitis".
In my meagre medical knowledge I can think of no way to suffer peritonitis
from getting a chill .... but am I missing something? I have found that
these old family stories usually have a kernal of truth buried somewhere,
and
so can't help wondering whether there is a connection. I do know
that he
died very suddenly, aged 39, away from home, within 24 hours after writing
a
hasty Will.
Any help appreciated.
***************
Well, most Listers were just as puzzled as I was at any connection between
a
"chill" and peritonitis. But several suggested that the
symptoms of the
peritonitis (fever, shaking, etc) might have been assumed by the family to
be
a chill caught on the ride on the locomotive.
Since there was such a large response, I am just barely sufficiently
egocentric to think that you might want to know more details of what I
think
is an interesting story (my feelings won't be hurt if you use the
"page
down"
and/or "delete" buttons at this point - but I will keep
track of any of
you
who do so) .......
Over 30 years ago, my great Aunt told me that her grandfather had died
(about
30 years before her birth) as a result of a chill caught while riding
on
an
open-air locomotive on the inaugural run of some railway line or some
new
locomotive of which he was particularly proud, having been part of the
design
team involved in the undertaking. This was all I had for the next 25
years.
I didn't know when or where he died.
Then I found tucked in an old book on the history of Dumbarton parish
(printed 1893 and presented to my Ggfather [son of the deceased] in 1895)
an
old photograph on a heavy card, with the remains of an embossed seal
for
some
"Board", of a very ancient (but new at the time of the
photo) locomotive,
not
far advanced from Stevenson's "Rocket". Three men are
in the photo, but
far
too small to ever identify. The photo was probably kept for over a
century
for some reason, and that probably was that one of the men was my
GGgfather,
the deceased in question. I sent a copy of the photo to a
"railway nut"
(my
apologies if you are reading this, Colin) who pointed out that the
locomotive
appeared to be so new that it had not yet had any railway name
painted on
it,
nor any number for the loco. The horizontal brass boiler can be seen
to
be
shining. He also said that he believed it to be about 1863 or 1864
vintage!
However, he could not identify the site of the photo, although it
clearly
is
in some railway yard. I still do not have the location identified.
About this time, I found my Ggfather in the 1861 census, at the family
home
in Bowling, Dumbartonshire, and his widow in 1871 in Glasgow. I also
found
his employee's railway pass on the Edinburgh & Glasgow
Railway, dated
1864,
giving his occupation as "Locomotive Superintendant". The
plot was
thickening (and it wasn't even a dark and stormy night!).
Skipping ahead a few years, I found his death certificate a couple of
years
ago, in September 1864, at the family home in the 1861 census, but
the
informant was a stranger to me, described as "occupier". And the cause of
death was given as peritonitis!!
Another pause, and then a few weeks ago I got his Will from the Scottish
Documents site. Lo and behold, the Will gives his home address in
Edinburgh,
and his occupation as "Locomotive Superintendant,
Edinburgh", and says
that
he was "visiting" the house where he died (but where his
family lived just
40
months earlier). And it is dated the day before the death, and
written by
a
brother-in-law who was a law clerk, noting that he was too ill to
write it
himself. My GGgfather was 39 at the time of his death.
The fact that his death occurred away from home tends to support the
family
story that he died on some excursion. And to explain why no family
member
was informant. I suspect that the informant was a renter in the former
home.
In addition, it appears that no-one in the immediate family had time
to
travel from Edinburgh in order to see him before he died and so had to
rely
on 2nd-hand info about the circumstances of the death.
The apparent speed of his death (from the hasty Will) supports the
official
cause of death of peritonitis. But I have no idea when the supposed
ride
on
the locomotive took place.
The "1863/4" photo now becomes more interesting. Was it the last (and
only?)
photo of him, taken as the locomotive (no carriages attached) left
(from
the
Edinburgh area?) on its inaugural run, or to be delivered to its new
headquarters, near Bowling? With him on board? There is no cabin on the
locomotive, just an open-air deck with a brass boiler bolted on it. The
whole trip would have been in the open air, wind-in-the-teeth, etc. Maybe
the family were not that far off-base to suspect a chill .....
The locomotive was probably a real "bone-shaker", and if one rode it while
starting to suffer appendicitis (but not wanting to
miss the inaugural run of one's "baby"), could that have exacerbated the
situation and accelerated a rupture?
By the way, none of my Free Church ancestors would have said that he "died
of
damned foolishness". That was my own attempt at humour. But
maybe not
too
far off the mark .....
So now I have a whole new set of questions, and may never get the answers.
But then, look at how much I have learned in the past 30 years (really
only
the past 5 years). Any suggestions welcome .......
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intentional
attachment on this e-mail transmission.
Ken Harrison
North Vancouver, Canada
kenharrison11(a)cs.com
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