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Good Question: How many of use have ancestors that seem to have been dropped here by "Little Green Men" or at some point in time seemed to have been picked up by "same"
1. Mail list have been one of my best sources of clues in finding my family lines. Post often and read posts of others.
2. Migration Patterns of family lines is another great tip.
3. Census of course, providing there are census for that time and providing they are complete and that the census taker could spell or write correctly.
4. Trace family lines connected to your own, Trace the pattern of the neighbors. They often moved in groups.
5. If they owned land, Land Deeds are very valuable sources of records.
6. Genealogy is History, Learn what you can about the History of the area
a. When that state became a state (before it was Indian land etc.)
b. When a county was formed and from perhaps other counties. they changed often in the early times.
c. Was your ancestor missing during a time of war, perhaps he was in the war. check those records. Those killed often, just seemed to disappear.
and often the wife if name is know went to live with a relative. Times were hard in those days, women had little means of support if a husband was killed or died, their only hope at times was to be taken in by someone. Children were often split up over different families, or farmed out as young as 10-12 as farm labor etc. Women and Men often remarried with-in a short time of losing a spouse.
Good Luck everyone: But remember I truly believe our best source of finding clues to our ancestors is from communication... Post your data, compare your family to those of the others by name or location. After all we are just one BIG family. More closely related then most want to think.
Have a great day:
I'm researching my grandmother's line and she was a Cairns, born 1896 in Edmonton, Alberta. I think I'll just list what I know so far about my Cairns line and hope that someone has a connection.
Bartholomew and Mary (Kelly) Cairns immigrated from Ireland to Ontario, Canada with 2 young sons - Patrick and Michael in the late 1840's. They settled in the Dundas, ON area and had 10 more children. John, Andrew, Thomas, Mary Ann, Bartholomew jr., James, Martin, Ellen, Bridget, and Margaret.
My g. grandfather was Thomas Cairns, who started the first brewery west of Ontario, in Portage la Prairie, Manitoba. There he met and married Mary Ann Straube in 1884 and had 4 children: Agnes, Andrew, Mary, Charles. They moved to Edmonton in 1892 and had 4 more children: Clara, Catherine, Thomas and Bertrand.
I looked at all the male Cairns records and while they were married and had children around the time frame of 1935, and quite a few of them moved to the North eastern states, none were named Gordon.
I do not know what happened to any of Thomas's brothers and families, or whether they may had moved to Edmonton as well.
I am still looking to find Bartholomew and Mary's death dates, as they seem to have disappeared sometime after the 1881 census in Ontario. They were in their early 60's by then. All the Ontario death films were looked at for Cairns and variations from 1881 to 1913 to no avail. I tried the Manitoba and B.C. on-line sites just in case, but they didn't die there. Wish more provinces had the BMD's on-line. And if they went state side, how and where would one start to look?
How do you look for someone when they have seemingly disappeared or you do not know where they went? They could have moved anywhere. Any suggestions??
Judy in Alberta.
Sorry to break your chain of "Canadian Cairns," but my family came from Ireland in the mid-1800's and settled in the Lancaster County, Pennsylvania area. Two brothers John and James along with their families settled there.
John Cairns b. 1800 m. Elizabeth Glen b. 1808
James Cairns b. 1805 m. Catherine? b. 1820?
Be interested in knowing if there is anyone else out there with connections to the Lancaster County area Cairns.
Dawn Houck
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> From: "Margrett McCorkle" <margrett42(a)comcast.net>
> Date: 2005/02/21 Mon AM 02:25:10 GMT
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> Subject: [CAIRNS] Cairns in Canada
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> Three new Postings so far and two out of three are Canada Cairns
> INTERESTING............
> We believe... The name of the Cairns we are looking for is Gordon Cairns
> probably born around 1935-40 in or near Alberta, Canada. Also believe his
> parents lived in Edmonton, Alberta,
> This Gordon Cairns came down to Metaline Falls, Washington around 1959-60 and worked in the Mines in Metaline Falls. He married Patricia "Patsy"
> Richardson,Patterson. He is the father of a son, 44 years old that would so greatly love to meet him.
> Thanks for any help at all.
> Margrett
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The Cairns family I'm tracing were rainroad people. James Thomas Cairns was
born in 1827 in Perthshire, Scotland. He married Mary Young, daughter of
John Young and Ann Morrison Young. James came to the US c 1850 and his wife
and her parents followed after that. They were briefly in New York, settled
in Fort Wayne, Indiana. My great grandfather was foreman of the roundhouse
in Crestline, Ohio. His name was Frank Martin Cairns. He had brothers John
and James. John died at about age 23. James went to Kansas, was a friend
of Wyatt Earp and married Nellie Masterson, sister of Bat Masterson. As far
as I know, there is no connection to the Cairns family in Canada. I was in
touch once with a Patience Cairns Kemp from Colorado who was related to the
Cairns family of Canada. I'd like to hear from anyone who thinks they may
be related to my family. Connie Cairns Bainbridge
I am researching John Cairns, who according to the 1871 Hastings County
Census was born in Quebec. John is listed as 42 in the 1871 Census. He
married Sarah, also born in Quebec and moved to Bangor Township, Hastings
County. There, they had 3 children: Jannet (b Abt 1867) and twins John &
Archy (b Abt Apr 1870). Sarah, John & Archy died of consumption sometime in
the 12 months preceding the 1871 Census.
John then married Mary Ann McMillan (b 26 Jan 1848) and had:
William (b Abt 1873)
James (b Abt 1874)
Alexander (b Abt 25 Apr 1875)
Elizabeth Florence [Flora] (b 6 Mar 1877)
John (b Abt 1879)
John probably passed away sometime between the conception of his son John
and the 1881 Census as he does not appear in the Census or any further
records.
Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very
much.
Bonita
Three new Postings so far and two out of three are Canada Cairns
INTERESTING............
We believe... The name of the Cairns we are looking for is Gordon Cairns
probably born around 1935-40 in or near Alberta, Canada. Also believe his
parents lived in Edmonton, Alberta,
This Gordon Cairns came down to Metaline Falls, Washington around 1959-60 and worked in the Mines in Metaline Falls. He married Patricia "Patsy"
Richardson,Patterson. He is the father of a son, 44 years old that would so greatly love to meet him.
Thanks for any help at all.
Margrett
Welcome aboard,
My wife's line of Cairns goes from Thomas Cairns and Jane from Thomas Roxburgshier, Scotland and Jane County Wexford, Ireland to Chesley, Bruce, Ontario Canada and Spence Ontario Canada to the US in Burnett and Washburn Counties of Wisconsin.
Don Harrison
Hello all Cairns Mail list subscribers:
My name is Margrett McCorkle and I am the new Mail List Administrator
for our Cairns Mail list. I also Administer other Mail List.
I'd like to get to know you and see what is happening on this Mail list.
Like all of you I am searching for Cairns Ancestors, I am not of the direct Cairns line but my Nephew is and has long been searching for his relatives, and I have agreed to help all I can.
I am searching for Cairns that lived in Alberta, Canada. and were in WA. state around 1960. All Help is acceptable
Lets get some activity and Post our Cairns lines.
Thanks everyone and Hope you have a great day.
Margrett McCorkle
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Do you know which parish they were from? Please let me know if you dig up any Maxwell family to Cairns family relationships. I have met someone working on the Maxwell and Duff relationships to Cairns.
Cindy
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Cindy,
You may very well be right as to the similarity of the names. I thank you, and please do let me know if you find a connection here : ).....
I will do likewise. Thank you for your reply.
Deb
Hi all,
Posted a msg. on this forum back in '99. RE: McPartland.
I am decended from one John McPartland m. Alice McAteer. Had a sister Rose,
brother Hugh . Born in Armagh, Ireland, d. Iselin, N.J.
My mother Theresa Magaret Cairns (nee McPartland) was one of 13 children
born to John and Alice McPartland (nee McAteer). She remembers a Rose as
being her fathers sister. A few of her siblings were: Albert, John, Ilene,
Kathleen, Alice, Elizabeth, Mary, 1 died @ birth, another @ six months from
pnemonia. All born/raised in N.J.
One Charles Grimley, was born in Corlust. He married Mary Kinney about 1859
and they had ten children, including one Edward. He married Rose McParland
of Ballard (Armagh) in 1897 and they were parents to 8 children, among them
, Edward Grimley. Rose was the daughter of Patrick and Ann McConin
(McCoonan).
If anyone feels they might have a connection here, I've not much to offer,
but am desperately trying to trace the CAIRNS/McPartland roots for my
parents whom are pushing 80 yrs. of age. My father is dying of colon
cancer, so time is of the essence.
Thanking you all so much for any assistance you might offer.
Hope to hear from someone soon.
Regards,
Debbie L. Tubbs (Cairns)
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Hi,
My new e-mail address is austinasmith(a)comcast.net.
I am interested in this Cairns family because it was from Leith, Midlothian, Scotland. I have my ancestor, William Cairns, born about 1826/1827, Leith, Midlothian, Scotland who married Williamina MacKay (25 July 1856)Leith, Midlothian.
Apparently David Cairns and Anne Nielson had the following children:
1. John Cairns, bap. 27 May 1821, m. Elizabeth Cooper.
2. Alexander Cairns, bap. 27 Oct. 1822
3. Martha Cairns, bap 13 June 1824, m. John Primrose.
4. William Cairns, bap. 6 May 1826
5. Marion Cairns, bap 13 Jan 1828
6. Mary Ann Cairns, bap 7 Feb 1830.
It is possible that my William, b. abt. 1826/1827 was the son of David Cairns and Anne Nielson. He is about the right age.
William Cairns, b. abt. 1826, Leith, Midlothian and Williamina MacKay, b. either 1829 or 1831 had the following children:
1. Martha Anthony MacKay Cairns, bap. 20 Aug 1857, Leith, Midlothian, Scotland. She married Nicol Thomson.
2. Mary Anne Cairns, bapt. 21 July 1859, Leith, Midlothian, Scotland.
3. Lewis Hay Cairns, bap. 12 May 1861, Leith, Midlothian. This was listed as a daughter on the 1881 census.
4. Elizabeth Gardiner Forman Cairns, bap. 13 May 1863, Leith, Midlothian.
5. William Cairns, bap. 15 July 1865, Leith, Midlothian. He married Mary Jane Massie 28 July 1898.
6. Alexander Cairns, bap. 19 Aug 1867, Leith, Midlothian
7. David Cairns, bap 15 Oct 1869, Leith, Midlothian
8. Wilhelmina Cairns, bap. 4 Mar 1872,
9. Hannah Cairns, bap. 1875
William Cairns, born 1865, was my grandmother's father. My grandmother was born in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1898. My grandfather was in England and Scotland in World War I. She came to America by boat in January of 1920 and they were married here.
I am searching for the names of William Cairns, b. 1826/1827 parents and for Williamina MacKay, b. 1829-1831 parents. It looks like David and Anne could be a possibility. I have been unable to get the marriage record of William and Williamina in 1856--it might give the names of their parents. I tried to view the acutal record on scotlandspeople.gov.uk but I could not get my viewer to work on their site.
I still have relatives in Scotland but none of them seem interested in discovering early family history.
Thanks,
Austin and Shirley Smith
California
John,
I would be pleased to share any/all info. that I have w/you, albeit not very
much.
What would you like to know?
I don't have a Margaret, although I don't know whether Jane could/would have
been used as a nickname for Margaret.
Don't believe there is a connection 'tween us, but I'm willing to give you
what little I've garnered through my Dad (80 yrs.) and his recollections
from speaking w/his father.
He claims his father , Samuel Cairns b. 12/05/1886 (verified through S.S.)
in Antrim, Ireland, came to the U.S. in 1902/04 via Ellis Island. I believe
I found him through Ellis Island site, aboard the Majestic, having come over
w/one Anne Cairns. He was 19 according to the manifest. He settled in
Iselin, N.J. where he died in June/1969.
He m. one Ann Cecelia Godfrey in 1916 (Newark, N.J.), they had three
sons-William, James, and Thomas (my dad) Cairns. She passed away in 1967.
Both William (Bill) and James (Jim) are also deceased.
My gr. father's parents were (according to my Dad) John Cairns, b. Antrim,
Ireland, and one Jane Craig (birthplace/date unknown, although we're
assuming Antrim as well. We also do not know whether John was the 1st
(assuming he is) , or second husband of Jane.
Now, he claims that a cousin of his contacted him a few years back while
tracing the Godfrey side of the family, and informed him that his fathers
mother's name was Mary-cannot verify this.
He also said that his mother's mother's side were Hinchcliffs, and they
hailed from England. Her father's name Robert Godfrey, location/nationality
unknown.
Now, he said he spoke to his father once about if he ever wanted to go back
to Ireland, to which his father said "No, there is nothing left for me to go
back to." Aparently (again, according to my fathers
interpretation/recollecting of events) my gr. father left Ireland @ the age
of 16 (Ellis Island records have him as 19, IF this is the same Samuel),
after having asked his mother to come along to America, as he did'nt get
along w/her new husband. She refused, so he set off on his own. Never had
further contact w/his family in Ireland. I don't know whether this Anne
Cairns on the manifest is a cousin/aunt relation or not, but it has her age
as 55.
He (and this is conjecture) believes that his fathers mother was approx.
20-30 when she had Samuel, which would bring her b.d. around the 50's, so
that could tie into your family's dates correct?
Aparently I'm looking for two husbands, and having not found the first yet,
am getting more confused than ahead of the game-LOL!
I have found many dates that coincide w/my gr.fathers/gr. mothers, but the
names (either first or last) don't match, so they could be what I'm looking
for, but am trying to find exact names that were given.
Hopefully, you can help fill in some of the blanks here, insofar as your gr.
gr. grandfather was involved in a union involving the Cairns'? Would you
have any documentation to substantiate any/all names? Sure would be a
blessing.
Give it a look/see, maybe something w/ring a bell okay? If nothing else,
thanks so much for writing-you never know what little pieces of info. can
garner right?
I was thrilled to get you e-mail, but am at the point now, that I've
invested months and keep hitting those perverbial brick walls.
I've got a couple of sites that are very interesting (although long to sort
through) if you're interested. Matter of fact was on one yesterday who had
quite a few John Cairns, b. Ireland, around the 1850's, but they're mostly
all 'unknow' b.p., mother/father/children, so if this is the same John, he
sure is elusive : ).
Best of luck to you, and am hoping to hear back from you.
Best,
Debbie Tubbs (Cairns)
6032 Thomas Terrace
Spring Lake VLG I
Sebring, FL. 33876-6428
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Bill,
This is an old post and often people don’t reply. But I have a gr gr
grandmother Margaret CAIRNS Born in county Antrim Ireland 1857 died
Westmoreland County PA 1791. Married by gr gr grandfather John BORELAND.
Dates are similar to hers. Contact me if you want to exchange information.
We have only census data on her
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Hi Cindy,
My gr. Father is a Samuel (Alexander?) Cairns, b. 12/5/1886 in Antrim, Ireland. My Dad claims he did not get on well w/his mothers second husband, and asked her to accompany him to the U.S.. She refused, staying instead in Ireland and he came through Ellis Island (settling in N.J.) at age 16-19 either alone, or w/an Aunt ANNE CAIRNS.
My gr. father told my father his fathers name was JOHN CAIRNS, mother was JANE CRAIG, however, this could be second husband, am not sure.
He married one Ann GODFREY, approx. 1915. Her parents were Robert Godfrey and unamed Hinchcliff (she from England).
There were aparently bros. and sisters, whom all stayed in Ireland, from both marriages. I don't have thier names, for my gr. father never wanted to discuss his 'roots', stating that he did'nt want to go back to Ireland, as there was nothing there for him to go back to.
Any connection(s)?
Thank you,
Debbie Cairns
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Bill,
This is an old post and often people don’t reply. But I have a gr gr grandmother Margaret CAIRNS Born in county Antrim Ireland 1857 died Westmoreland County PA 1791. Married by gr gr grandfather John BORELAND. Dates are similar to hers. Contact me if you want to exchange information. We have only census data on her
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This is an old post and often people don’t reply. But I have a gr gr grandmother Margaret CAIRNS Born in county Antrim Ireland 1857 died Westmoreland County PA 1791. Married by gr gr grandfather John BORELAND. Dates are similar to hers. Contact me if you want to exchange information. We have only census data on her
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