Hi! Is Sylvia Harvey on this list group?
Thanks,
Kim
On Jun 25, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Lee Cagle wrote:
Carole,
Yes, I remember him now. He is one for whom I could not connect, and
so attached him to Karl Wilhelm Cagle since my software does not
allow for anything else without alot of trouble. So the easiest way
to handle it is to attach one to another, then afterwards "fix
relationship" by detaching which I did sometime after I posted on
Ancestry.com. I need to update or delete the GEDCOM, because there
have been many changes, additions, etc since this was originally
posted. I still am not sure of his parentage but, will one day see
if I can find anything else in John's writings..
These are my notes for John Cagle, b. btw 1770-1779: Book D, p 182:
6 Sep 1796, John Cagle & wife Lucy of Lancaster Co., to Jacob Hagler
of Lancaster Co., for L30, sterling; 50 acres on the west side of Big
Lynches Creek, adjoining said Hagler, Plat. Plat dated 1750 to James
McManus the Patentee. Wits: Charles McManus and Leonard Cagle.
Signed John Cagle and Lucy Cagle. Proved by Charles McManus, Sept 6,
1796; John Welsh, JP. (This Jacob Hagler is the same who married
Elizabeth Cagle, daughter of George Cagle who died in 1825. Jacob
Hagler and his younger brother Paul Hagler (below) lived in Cabarrus
and Stanly Counties at various times, as well as South Carolina and
Georgia.
Book F, p 211, Jan 9 1798: Jacob and Catharine Englet of Lancaster
Co., to Paul Hagler of same, for L32, 155 acres on branch of
Tuckeyhoe, waters of Linches Creek, granted Apr 3, 1786. Wits:
Charles McManus and John Cagle. Signed Jocob Englet and Catharine
Englet. Proved by Charles McManus, Jul 30, 1803.
John and Lucy Cagle of the 1796 deed above, later migrated to Burke
Co., NC where they appeared in the census of 1810. John died there
in 1815, and Lucy after appearing in the 1820 census died c. 1823.
Leonard Cagle appeared with John Cagle in Burke Co., NC records in
1814-1815.
Regarding the ancestry of John Cagle 1770s-1815, the great
grandfather of C C Cagle, it would appear he was born in or slightly
before the Revolutionary War, and could well have been the son of a
veteran of that War. (1) One possibility is he was an orphan son of
Capt John Cagle, the Tory who died in 1782 while in the service of
the Cumberland Co Loyalist Militia. Since that Capt John Cagle
enlisted from Cumberland Co., this theory would presuppose young John
originated among the Cagles of Cumberland Co., and was orphaned there
in 1782, but later migrated by an unknown route to Lancaster Co., SC
where he first begins to appear in county records as an adult. This
theory, while remaining a possibility, has yet to be supported with
any firm evidence. (2) Another possibility regarding John's
ancestry is he was not a son of the Tory Capt John Cagle of
Cumberland County, but the son of another John Cagle, perhaps of the
Cabarrus/Stanly Co area of NC who also served in the Re!
volutionary War.
Young John, during his residence in Lancaster Co., SC and Burke Co.,
NC does seem to have ties to the Cagles and other families of the
Cabarrus and Stanly Co area particularly Leonard Cagle, c 1770-1840s,
a son of Charles Cagle, d. 1801. Thus, the possibility might be
raised that John 1770s-1815, could have been a son of John Cagle,
c1752-1826, a resident of the Cabarrus Co. area, and son of David
Cagle, 1728-1780s. This John, b. 1752, was of military age during
the Revolution, and could have served in the American forces from
Cabarrus, as did Jacob Cagle, 1755-1845, whose records have been
discussed at great length in the Cagle Journal of Historical
Inquiry. Thus far, no military service record has been found for
John, b. 1752, and it remains unknown if he ever fought at the Battle
of Guilford Court House, or attained the rank of Captain. However,
the possibility remains open for research and discussion. Source:
The Cagle Journal of Historical Inquiry May 2001, pg 5.
I am sure more has been written and I will get to it as soon as I
finish my current project.
Let me know if I may be of further service. Another good source is
Nancy Balmer(a)aol.com.
Lee Cagle
Okla City
-- "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching(a)mstarmetro.net> wrote:
Lee,
The following is what you give on John Cagle at Ancestry World Tree
Project:
Cagle-Carter-Jackson-James-Jinks-Archer Genealogy Database on
Ancestry.com.
I am hoping you have more details and perhaps further details on John
and
Lucy and their descendants:
Child of Karl Wilhelm CAGLE is:
+ 23 i. John CAGLE was born BET 1770 AND 1779 in Moore Co., NC, and
died
1815 in Burke Co., NC.
Carole Cook
-----Original Message-----
From: cagle-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Lee Cagle
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:17 PM
To: cagle(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] John Cagle, lived in SC a while;wife Lucy & their
descend ants?
Carole,
Happy to help if you can give me some dates and places. I have over 400
John Cagles to go through to find Lucy and I am sure there are more than
a few. I now have over 67,000 Cagles which is probably about half of
where
I have to go.
Lee Cagle
Okla City
-- "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching(a)mstarmetro.net> wrote:
Lee,
Thanks for all of the information on Leonard Cagle.
Do you have similar detailed information on the John Cagle who
married Lucy
and their descendants which you could email to me?
Carole Cook
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