Earl, many years ago my Uncle in Smyrna (near the Big Chicken) raised
chickens that lay blue or green speckled eggs. You sound so knowledgable on
the subject, have you any idea what kinda chicken that migh've been (other
than fried!) Martha
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Subject: CAGLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 145
Today's Topics:
1. Re: biddy (Sandra Stephens)
2. Re: Mary E. Cagle, b. Aug 1882 TN (Mary Cooley)
3. Re: biddy (BGKBVK(a)aol.com)
4. Goodness gracious (ecagle1(a)bellsouth.net)
5. Pass the chicken (ecagle1(a)bellsouth.net)
6. Re: biddy (Edwin Merryman)
7. Re: biddy (Frances Davis)
8. Re: biddy (Gerald Cagle)
9. Bittie - Bantie (Dana Meara)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:08:27 -0400
From: Sandra Stephens <sandrastephens28(a)msn.com>
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy
To: <cagle(a)rootsweb.com>
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FINALLY somebody brought up itty bitty - don't you people listen to
country music? Didn't you ever hear the song Itty Bitty? Lee, that's a
really professional answer on the little chickens. Are you kin to Cagle
Chicken people or something :-) ?
Sandra> From: caglel1(a)juno.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:57:19 +0000> To:
cagle(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy> > Little chickens were
called banties, at full growth they weighed about a pound on the foot,
they would dress-out to about a half pound. A lot of them had feathers on
their feet.> Anything that was said to be "itty bitty" was a tad smaller
than small.> > > Lee Cagle> Okla City> > -- BGKBVK(a)aol.com wrote:>
Here is
the real meaning of Biddy. It is a very small bedchamber pot > antiques.
We also called little chickens biddies. Ha Bettye> > > >
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:15:41 -0700
From: "Mary Cooley" <mlcooley(a)charter.net>
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Mary E. Cagle, b. Aug 1882 TN
To: <cagle(a)rootsweb.com>, <ashleycagle1908(a)sbcglobal.net>
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Thanks for your response. I saw online trees where this Mary E. Cagle was
listed as born 1869 and daughter of Robert H Cagle b: 1835 in Hickman Co.,
TN & Caroline Brinkley? b: 22 MAR 1845 in Hickman Co., TN. However, this
Mary Elizabeth (Cagle) Headrick is consistently listed as being born c
1883
TN. Here is the 1930 census listing (listed with last name of "Beadrick"
by
Ancestry):
1930 Knoxville, Knox Co., TN; ED 47-23, Ward 10; 1634 Detroit Ave.; 08
April; page 65 B, family 208; G. M. Clairborne, Enumerator:
HEADRICK, James H., head, own, $2000, m/w, 53, married, married 1st at 23,
TN/TN/TN, laborer, Railroad
HEADRICK, Mary, wife, f/w, 47, married, married 1st at 18, TN/TN/TN
HEADRICK, Raymond, son, m/w, 24, married, married 1st at 20, TN/TN/TN,
laborer, Railroad
HEADRICK, Louise, daughter-in-law, f/w, married, married 1st at 17,
TN/TN/TN
HEADRICK, Raymond, Jr., grandson, m/w, 1-?4/12, TN/TN/TN
HEADRICK, Claude E., son, m/w, 17, single, TN/TN/TN, laborer, University
HEADRICK, Mary, daughter, f/w, 13, single, TN/TN/TN
Mary Lou (Cagle) Cooley
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Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Mary E. Cagle, b. Aug 1882 TN
Just to let you know im watching but have nothing to offer
Ashley
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Cooley" <mlcooley(a)charter.net>
To: <cagle(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:28 PM
Subject: [CAGLE] Mary E. Cagle, b. Aug 1882 TN
> Does anyone know why this is not the daughter of William Cagle & Mary
> Melinda Brewer?:
>
>
>
> CAGLE, Mary E. - HEADRICK, James Henry - married on 23-DEC-1900 in Knox
> County, TN
>
>
>
> 1900 Knoxville, Knox Co., TN; ED 97, Ward 10; 1325 Dehart Ave.; 18 April;
> page 95, family 119; Ernest West, Enumerator:
>
> HEADRICK, James H., head, m/w, 33, married 9 years, Unknown birthplace of
> self & parents, laborer, River, rent
>
> HEADRICK, Mary, wife, f/w, 27, married 9 years, Mother of 4, 3 living,
> TN/Unknown/Unknown
>
> HEADRICK, Stella, daughter, f/w, 6, single, TN/Unknown/TN
>
> HEADRICK, Ola, daughter, f/w, 4, single, TN/Unk/TN
>
> HEADRICK, James O., son, m/w, 1, single, TN/Unk/TN
>
>
>
> 1920 Knoxville, Knox Co., TN; ED 93, 12th C.D., Ward 10; 1634 Detroit
> Ave.,
> 03 Jan; page 5, family 103; James Avery Rush, Enumerator:
>
> HEADRICK, James, head, own - mortgaged, m/w, 42, married, TN/TN/TN,
> laborer,
> general
>
> HEADRICK, Mary, wife, f/w, 37, married, TN/TN/TN
>
> HEADRICK, Stella, daughter, f/w, 15, M written over S, TN/TN/TN
>
> HEADRICK, Olof, son, m/w, 13, single, TN/TN/TN
>
> HEADRICK, Claude, son, m/w, 7, single, TN/TN/TN
>
> HEADRICK, Mary, daughter, f/w, 3, single, TN/TN/TN
>
>
>
> World War I Draft Registration Card:
>
> James Henry Headerick
>
> Permanent Home Address - 1634 Detroit, Knoxville, Knox, Tenn.
>
> Age in Years - 41
>
> Date of Birth - Sept 2nd 1877
>
> White
>
> Native Born
>
> Present Occupation - Common Labor
>
> Employeer's Name - H. C. Milner
>
> Place of Employment or Business - Sand Dredge on Tennessee River
>
> Nearest Relative - Mrs. Mary Elizabeth Headerick
>
> 1634 Detroit, Knoxville, Knox, Tenn.
>
> Signed by mark - James Henry Headerick
>
> Witness to sig - Mrs. W. Hudson
>
> Tall
>
> Medium Build
>
> Light Blue Eyes
>
> Brownish Gray Hair
>
> John W. Hudson, Registrar
>
> 12 Sept 1918
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mary
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:40:19 EDT
From: BGKBVK(a)aol.com
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy
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Lee Can't resist: Banties are a breed of chickens that were bred to fight
as
in fight to the death. This practice still goes on and is probably older
than
that dog fighting. Both are disgusting. Bettye
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:43:02 -0400
From: <ecagle1(a)bellsouth.net>
Subject: [CAGLE] Goodness gracious
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Goodness Gracious!!!!!! Folks we now got the chickens in the potty and
no telling what will happen next, the sky may fall. Lee, down in North
Georgia folk referred to bantam chickens very often as banties. As far
as the chamber pot goes the nearest I can figure out someone confused
biddy with bidet, look it up for a descriptive meaning. Sandra, don't
start the Cagle chicken thing again, we identified Chicken George and his
progenitors sometime back and you assisted most effectively. At least we
are communicating, Best wishes,
Earl L. Cagle, Sr.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:00:40 -0400
From: <ecagle1(a)bellsouth.net>
Subject: [CAGLE] Pass the chicken
To: <CAGLE(a)rootsweb.com>
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>From the land of the Big Chicken (Marietta, Georgia). Some information on
>the bird to help define some of our commentary. The Bantam (banty) is an
>extremely small chicken that is very alert and territorial and they do
>fight, some folk may use them for that purpose. Most raise them as a
>hobby and they come in many varieties, Cochin, Silkie, Duckwing,
>Seabright, Mille Fluer and many more.
The hobbiest generally show their fowl. As I said they are territorial
and will fight, often at the drop of
a hat and some wore hats, at least topknots. Now, the so called fighting
chicken, more correctly known as game fowl. These are the birds that are
bred primarily for fighting and they originated from the Jungle Fowl (the
bantam probably did also). Game fowl have a wild nature about them and if
left to range free, steal their nesting place and roost in trees. Some of
the varities of the game fowl are, Allen Rounhead, Claret, Traveler,
Madigan Grey (my favorite), Hatch, Brown Reds and many more.
Many years ago, the poultry producers in an effort to enlarge the breast
of marketed poultry, introduced game fowl into the breeding program, since
the game fowl's breast is proportionally larger than other chickens,
somewhat like what we look for when we are buying a Cornish hen for
cooking. By the way for those that may not know, the Big Chicken is
located on Hwy 41 in Marietta, Georgia, a KFC franchise that is built to
resemble a chicken with opening beak and rolling eyes. This is the
beginning landmark for locals to use when giving directions. Sometimes,
if the travel can't find the Big Chicken that can't get where they are
agoin. Best wishes, Earl L. Cagle, Sr.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:07:32 -0400
From: "Edwin Merryman" <edwinmerryman(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy
To: <cagle(a)rootsweb.com>
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Lee is right. I had forgotten the name Banty.
Ed Merryman
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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy
Little chickens were called banties, at full growth they weighed about a
pound on the foot, they would dress-out to about a half pound. A lot of
them had feathers on their feet.
Anything that was said to be "itty bitty" was a tad smaller than small.
Lee Cagle
Okla City
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:33:18 -0500
From: "Frances Davis" <we71357(a)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy
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Lee, banties were actually Bantam, a small type of chicken. Old
folks just said "banties". Biddies were always baby chickens,
meaning "small".
Frances Davis
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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy
> Little chickens were called banties, at full growth they weighed
> about a pound on the foot, they would dress-out to about a half
> pound. A lot of them had feathers on their feet.
> Anything that was said to be "itty bitty" was a tad smaller than
> small.
>
>
> Lee Cagle
> Okla City
>
> -- BGKBVK(a)aol.com wrote:
> Here is the real meaning of Biddy. It is a very small bedchamber pot
> antiques. We also called little chickens biddies. Ha Bettye
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:45:29 -0400
From: "Gerald Cagle" <g_cagle(a)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy
To: <cagle(a)rootsweb.com>
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Sandra don't you get involved in the biddy bit. When are you moving to
Georgia.
Gearld Cagle
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To: <cagle(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy
>
> FINALLY somebody brought up itty bitty - don't you people listen to
> country music? Didn't you ever hear the song Itty Bitty? Lee, that's a
> really professional answer on the little chickens. Are you kin to Cagle
> Chicken people or something :-) ?
>
> Sandra> From: caglel1(a)juno.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:57:19 +0000>
> To:
> cagle(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy> > Little chickens were
> called banties, at full growth they weighed about a pound on the foot,
> they would dress-out to about a half pound. A lot of them had feathers on
> their feet.> Anything that was said to be "itty bitty" was a tad
smaller
> than small.> > > Lee Cagle> Okla City> > -- BGKBVK(a)aol.com
wrote:> Here
> is
> the real meaning of Biddy. It is a very small bedchamber pot > antiques.
> We also called little chickens biddies. Ha Bettye> > > >
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:48:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dana Meara <mcmeara(a)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [CAGLE] Bittie - Bantie
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Lee,
Actually the chickens known as Bantie/Banry are a particular breed of
chicken. The rooster of the bunch is pretty agressive - thus the saying
"mad as a banty rooster". You're from OK also so probably have heard that
expression.
In a variation of everyone's comments - I had only heard "bitty" used as
"old bitty" meaning a little, old lady who was either "a mean old
bitty"
or "a nosey old bitty". But "itty bitty" sounds right for a small
person
or child.
Dana M.
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Little chickens were called banties, at full growth they weighed about a
pound on the foot, they would dress-out to about a half pound. A lot of
them had feathers on their feet.
Anything that was said to be "itty bitty" was a tad smaller than small.
Lee Cagle
Okla City
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