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Here is a link to a great article that explains why people tend to think
their German ancestors are Dutch.
http://www.kerchner.com/padutch.htm
Tom Cagle
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Behalf Of Kimberly Ann Spangrude
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:18 PM
To: cagle(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Johan Theobald Cagle
Earl, I agree 100%. I still would like to know why Njbalmer(a)aol.com
wrote that he/she was "sure there were Kegell/Cagles that were
dutch". When someone makes a statement like that, it would be nice
to know what makes them sure. Don't you want to know why?
Kim
On Jan 22, 2008, at 4:34 PM, ecagle1(a)bellsouth.net wrote:
> Kim, My personal opinion is, the Kegel/Cagle is solid German
> through and through. Micah Allen in an earlier posting probably
> gave the best basis. When you look at the spelling of Dutch names
> it is pretty evident that they are not related at least in the root
> analysis. I think we should accept the Kegel origin which seems to
> be reasonably established for our line, not worry about the idea of
> changing some of the names we are familiar with and have been for
> years and move on to more important research. Best wishes, Earl Cagle
>
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> From: Kimberly Ann Spangrude <kimspangrude(a)mac.com>
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>>> I am sure that there are Kegell\Cagle that were Dutch?
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>> Hi. Why are you sure there were Kegell/Cagles who were Dutch?
>> Kim
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Tom and Micah, You are right on target with your contribution. In a little overview that I presented to the Cagle Family reunion in Pickens County, Georgia last August, I mentioned much of what the two of you have presented. Additionally, I recall that the Queen of England at the time of Leonhart's leaving his homeland, was a relative (cousin maybe) to the ruler of Germany. In an effort to provide assistance and relief she encouraged refugees to come to England which in turn put a burden on the economy of her nation. I say this to make a connection to Leonhart apparentlly spending sometime there prior to gaining passage to America. There was also mention that he made two trips, possibly to move his family or the remainder of his family. The ship was the Townsend and the year was 1737. So there you are a tid-bit from one of the bowling pins. Best wishes, Earl Cagle
P.S. I have somewhat of a claim on the bowing pin handle, Peter Cagle my gr.gr.gr. grandfather that came from North Carolina to Georgia was married to Rachel, your guessed it Boling.
Earl,
The perfect opportunity once more for you to push for DNA testing. While like you, I'm sure that our line is German, if you look at a census list, there's quite a few Kagels and other variations listed as being born in Holland and later Netherlands. Wouldn't surprise me to find that some researchers have tied some of these people to our line in error.
Sandra> From: ecagle1(a)bellsouth.net> To: cagle(a)rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:34:07 +0000> Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Johan Theobald Cagle> > Kim, My personal opinion is, the Kegel/Cagle is solid German through and through. Micah Allen in an earlier posting probably gave the best basis. When you look at the spelling of Dutch names it is pretty evident that they are not related at least in the root analysis. I think we should accept the Kegel origin which seems to be reasonably established for our line, not worry about the idea of changing some of the names we are familiar with and have been for years and move on to more important research. Best wishes, Earl Cagle > > -------------- Original message ----------------------> From: Kimberly Ann Spangrude <kimspangrude(a)mac.com>> >> > > > On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Njbalmer(a)aol.com wrote:> > > > > I am sure that there are Kegell\Cagle that were Dutch?> > > > Hi. Why are you sure there were Kegell/Cagles who were Dutch?> > Kim> > > > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request(a)rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > > the message> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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Earl, I agree 100%. I still would like to know why Njbalmer(a)aol.com
wrote that he/she was "sure there were Kegell/Cagles that were
dutch". When someone makes a statement like that, it would be nice
to know what makes them sure. Don't you want to know why?
Kim
On Jan 22, 2008, at 4:34 PM, ecagle1(a)bellsouth.net wrote:
> Kim, My personal opinion is, the Kegel/Cagle is solid German
> through and through. Micah Allen in an earlier posting probably
> gave the best basis. When you look at the spelling of Dutch names
> it is pretty evident that they are not related at least in the root
> analysis. I think we should accept the Kegel origin which seems to
> be reasonably established for our line, not worry about the idea of
> changing some of the names we are familiar with and have been for
> years and move on to more important research. Best wishes, Earl Cagle
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Kimberly Ann Spangrude <kimspangrude(a)mac.com>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Njbalmer(a)aol.com wrote:
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>>> I am sure that there are Kegell\Cagle that were Dutch?
>>
>> Hi. Why are you sure there were Kegell/Cagles who were Dutch?
>> Kim
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We have the documents for Johan Theoblad Dewalt "David" Kegel\Cagle thru the
Baptism Records and it names his parents. Leonhart and wife Susannah and
they are from Germany. Document for the 1\2 sister.
I think we can say this line is correct in being German for Leonhart, David,
and his 1\2 sister. I am not sure about the other children we have listed
there are no document for any of them. But they lived close to each ohter? So
I am going to stick with German. I think the children are correct but we do
not know for sure.
I am sure that there are Kegell\Cagle that were Dutch?
Dose anyone know if John G Cagle has a copy of these records that we might
be able to get?
Baptism records where found in a small church in Sembach, (at the time of
the baptisms there was no church in Obermehlingen & Niedermehlingen, (in
english Ober and Nieder one means over and the other means under, now it is just
Mehlingen, near the Black Forest. and not far from Kaiserslautern)
1728 Baptism
Childs name Johan Theoblad, born the 29 of April and Baptised 1st of May.
Sponcers names, Theobald Fuchs, The sponser from Alsenbon, and his wife
Christina. Andreas Busch from Trippstadt, Reformed. Parnents names Leonhart Kegel
and his wife Susanna Kegel, Reformed from Obermehlingen, Germany.
His first wife was Maria Elisabeth (deceased) last name unknown. Maria was
born in 1687, and from Niedermehlingen, Germany. Together they had a
daughter named Maria Margareta, born in the year 1715. It has been said there was
another child born of this marriage, but there is nothing to prove or
disprove this information.
Confirmation Register 1729
Maria Margareta, the daughter of Leonhart Kegel, Reformed and his deceased
wife Maria Elisabeth, Reformed of Niedermehlingen, Germany. daughter 14 years
old.
(Margareta Maria, Her real name was Maria Margarita, and her name was
changed because of her mothers death. )
Leonard Kegel, Leonard Cagle:
In German Leonhart, Leonhardt, Leinhart, means a shape of a bowling pin, a
shape of a cone, or a pin, also means Dweller by the stumps. The word
"Leonhart" also means "Lion heart" or "Brave Heart".
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On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Njbalmer(a)aol.com wrote:
> I am sure that there are Kegell\Cagle that were Dutch?
Hi. Why are you sure there were Kegell/Cagles who were Dutch?
Kim
I feel the name attached to John Cagle..."Dutchman" was what he was
called because of where he llved, while in N.C. I think he was called
"the big Dutcman" and it stuck. That's why I tried to research the
"dutch creek" area, and the real dutch settlement there. (Dutch people
did go in same migration as the germans. ) I do not think that was his
real name. has anyone researched this? Stella
Hi
(repeat)
Maybe we should change John Duchman Cagle to John Deutschman Cagle the
german way?? Some of the spelling of there first and last names were changed a bit
on there spellings because it was hard to understand them when they spoke
because of the broken english.. Some of the names on the Baptism Records you
will also find in PA along with are Kagel,Kagle\Cagle family. There were 119
Palentine men and their families and they were accompanied by a Lutheran
Minister named was Johannes Christian Schultz on the Loyal Judith. If I remember
this corret Leonhart Kegle went back to get more family and came back.Dose
anyone remember this?? I forget the name of the ship??
Ancient Pennsylvania Landmarks Known to Leonhart Kegel,
1732-54
Oley Township, Berks County, PA
Oley Township, a few miles east of Reading, in Berks co., PA, is the only
township in America which has been added to the National Register of Historic
Places, as an entire Township. Its settlement dates back as far as 1699, and
it ancient German and French Huguenot homesteads have building standing
dated from 1706. It was already a generation old, and a thriving settlement, when
the Cagles arrived from Germany in 1730s; and was nearly a half-century old
when John "Dutchman" Cagle lived in Oley in the early 1750s. Leonhart Kegel,
the 1732 immigrant, and believed to be father of John "Dutchman" Cagle,
acquired land in Oley Township in 1737; at that time, however, old Oley Township
encompassed more territory than does the present Oley Twp., and section in
which Leonhart lived was later made into Alsace Township. The economy of Oley
Township was based, originally, on farming in the broad Oley Valley, and on
iron-working in the scenic hills which ring the valley. Of the iron furnaces and
forges in Oley, perhaps the most famous was that of Iarger Family (later
Anglicized to "Hunter"), headed by Nicholas Hunter. In an obscure court case,
dating for 1753, Berks Co. records show that Nicholas Hunter, on one occasion,
filed suite against a John Kegle, believed to be John "Dutchman" Cagle, who
later moved to North Carolina in 1754-55. Oldest homestead in Oley is that of
Johannes Keim, built 1706; he was the ancestor of the Kime family of
Guilford Co., NC. Oley Township furnished a number of families to central North
Carolina during the 1740s adn 1750s including the Keim, Cagle, and Stutts
Families. (The Nicholas Hunter homestead in Oley Twp., near the ruins of the famed
Oley Forge. The Oley Lutheran Church stands nearby, but its early recors are
lost. One of the most memorable sights in the city of Reading, Berks Co.,
PA, is Alsace Hill in the northern part of town, capped by the twin towers of
the Alsace Lutheran and Alsace German Reformed Churches. The two churches,
identical in construction, stand on either side of a common parking lot, and
share a common graveyard. From date of founding in 1732, until construction of
the present buildings in 1907, the two congrrefations worshipped in a single
building, at alternatin times, under a "Union Church" arrangement. The Alsace
churches stand on the homestead of Dewalt Baum, closest neighbor of Leonhart
Cagle, during Leonard's period of residence, 1737-1748, in Alsace Township.
The Cagles may will have been members of the Alsace Lutheran Church, but this
cannot be verified, as early records of the Church have been lost.
There is a replica of the original Alsace Church building, which served the
congragtion form ca1737-1753 replaced by a stone church in 1753. The log
church was in use during the period of Leonard Cagle's residence in the township,
and stood about a quarter-mile from his home. The present Alsace Lutheran
Church, in use since 1907. and identical building, standing adjacent, is the
German Ref. church. Here is a paragraph from the published history of the Alsace
Church describes the expansion of the Church in the era of 1748-1754. In
1748, the year of the founding of Reading, PA, Leonard Cagle, vacated his
homstead in Alsace and move a few miles distant to Brecknock Township, in Berks Co.
PA.
These Baptism Records are were documented.
Baptism records where found in a small church in Sembach, (at the time of
the baptisms there was no church in Obermehlingen & Niedermehlingen, (in
english Ober and Nieder one means over and the other means under, now it is just
Mehlingen, near the Black Forest. and not far from Kaiserslautern)
Tom has the map on his site. I have the real map and I can send you the
picture of the map in a e-mail a friend of mine who came from Germany and went
and took picture's for me they are also on Tom's site.(I think Tom still has
them on there.
.
1728 Baptism
Childs name Johan Theoblad, born the 29 of April and Baptised 1st of May.
Sponcers names, Theobald Fuchs, The sponser from Alsenbon, and his wife
Christina. Andreas Busch from Trippstadt, Reformed. Parnents names Leonhart Kegel
and his wife Susanna Kegel, Reformed from Obermehlingen, Germany.
Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
Lenhart Kegell
Name Lenhart Kegell
Year 1732
Place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Source Publication Code: 9041
Primary Immigrant: Kegell, Lenhart
Annotation Contains 29,800 names, with annotations written by Krebs (see no.
4203). Various references to the names in Strassburger will be found in
other listings, mostly where authors have attempted to line up their information
with that in Strassburger. This work Source Bibliography: STRASSBURGER,
RALPH BEAVER. Pennsylvania German Pioneers: A Publication of the Original Lists
of Arrivals in the Port of Philadelphia from 1727 to 1808 Edited by William
John Hinke. Norristown [PA]: Pennsylvania German Society, 1934. 3 vols. Vols. 1
and 3 reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1964. Repr. 1983
Vol. 1. 1727-1775. 776p.
Page 90
Source Citation Place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Year: 1732; Page Number: 90.
Source Information
Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database
on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data:
Filby, P. William, ed.. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s.
Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2005.
Confirmation Register 1729
Maria Margareta, the daughter of Leonhart Kegel, Reformed and his deceased
wife Maria Elisabeth, Reformed of Niedermehlingen, Germany. daughter 14 years
old.
(Margareta Maria, Her real name was Maria Margarita, and her name was
changed because of her mothers death.)
Leonhart second marriage:
Leonhart Kegel and his second wife was Susannah and her last name is
unknown. They were married in Germany. Leonhart was born 1684 and was from
Obermehlingen, Germany, and he was married in Germany to Susannah unknown. Susannah
was born in the year 1688 and from Obermehlingen, Germany.
Baptism records where found in a small church in Sembach, (at the time of
the baptisms there was no church in Obermehlingen & Niedermehlingen, (in
english Ober and Nieder one means over and the other means under, now it is just
Mehlingen, near the Black Forest. and not far from Kaiserslautern)
1728 Baptism
Childs name Johan Theoblad, born the 29 of April and Baptised 1st of May.
Sponcers names, Theobald Fuchs, The sponser from Alsenbon, and his wife
Christina. Andreas Busch from Trippstadt, Reformed.
Parnents names Leonhart Kegel and his wife Susanna Kegel, Reformed from
Obermehlingen, Germany.
1728 Baptism
Baptismal register 1728, Trippstadt, the 14th of March Johann Andreas
Buschung, and his wife Maria Elisabetha, a daughter baptised and named Maria
Elisabetha. God parents Leonhart Kegel of Mehlingen, Germany, and Maria Magdalena,
Johann Henrich Schmalenberger's Young wife Veronica Phillipp .
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Hi Cagle researchers,
Well, it looks like we've ambled into a fascinating discussion of etymology concerning the Cagle name. Due to my hobby/career of performing solo vocal music in French, German, and Italian, I've been required to study all
three languages and thus have at my disposal multiple dictionaries to translate
these languages. I have found that all three of my German dictionaries lists the meaning of the word "kegel" as a bowling pin. Of course, I've read somewhere that "kegel" also may mean other things depending on the region. As I understand it from my professor who spent years in Dusseldorf (the northern region of Germany), it is quite possible to have different meanings of the same word depending upon what region of the country you are in. Also, there is "old German" (like there is English and Old English) and so the word Kegel could have many meanings. I have never read or heard of the "maker of mantles with a cowl." Can anyone tell me where this comes from? I'm quite curious.
When I first learned of the Rhenish Palatinate state link to our Cagle line, the first thing I tried to find out was the history of that area. As I understand it, the Rhenish Palatinate state was a hot area of religious control. Both sides, catholic and protestant, sought to control it. I read about the persecution of the protestants when the catholics gained control of the state and how many of them fled down the Rhine river to Rotterdam. Someone please inform me if I have the wrong information because I am still trying to sort all this out. In the mean time, I will be looking for my source where it talks about the different meanings of the german word "Kegel" - I seem to remember something about a possible meaning about "an illegitimate or lower offspring", something like that - I'll go look for the source. Also, I read that many passengers on Dutch ships were often sold when they made landfall in the U.S. There usually had to be someone already in the "new world" who
would pay their "ransom", so to speak so that they were not indentured. I know about this because an ancestor in another family line was a Dutch sailing captain who made his money by selling passengers. I thought that was interesting...we forget so often that history often tells the story of people enslaving their own people.This was so vividly etched in my mind when I visited the Anne Frank museum in Amsterdam a few years ago and though my knowledge of the dutch language is quite limited, I can easily tell the difference of spellings between German and Dutch. The concentration camp entrance records displayed behind glass on the top floor for both Anne and her sister were in Dutch, not German as I had expected. I realized then that either the Nazis were taught Dutch or the Nazis employed Dutch people to do the dirty work once they had invaded the Netherlands. Anyway, history is not always what we might think so if anyone has anything to add to the turmoil of the Rhenish
Palatinate state during the time when Leonhart lived or fled from there, I would be interested in knowing more as well as learning a recommendation for a good source for this history.
Thanks and Happy Hunting! --- Micah R. Allen---
Sandra Stephens <sandrastephens28(a)msn.com> wrote:
Nancy Jane,
Thanks for bringing up the records that have been used by every Cagle researcher in the search for family. I personally think that some people concluded that since the ship Loyal Judith came from Holland, the people on it must also have been Dutch. The fact that the ship was of English origin kind of blows that out of the water (no pun intended) though. One of my first cousins last year informed me that she had studied the family and that they weren't German but were instead Black Dutch. After I finished laughing, I told her that she needed to go back and research that phrase. I have seen other ships' lists on line with Cagle passengers, and I'm sure that not every Cagle in the United States descends from Leonhart Kegel, but I think most of the people on this list can trace back to him. John G Cagle, Jimmy Cagle and other researchers did a great job putting that information out there for us. As for the definition of Cagle or Kegel, about two years ago I mentioned to a
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friend who had spent several years in Germany that my Grandmother Cagle's family was from Germany - his reply was "you sure don't look like a bowling pin to me". For which I immediately thanked him
Sandra> From: Njbalmer(a)aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:55:05 -0500> To: cagle(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: [CAGLE] What about Johan Theobald Baptism records?> > Hi > > What about the notes that all of us have on Leonhart> > Leonard Kegel, Leonard Cagle:> > In German Leonhart, Leonhardt, Leinhart, means a shape of a bowling pin, a > shape of a cone, or a pin, also means Dweller by the stumps. The word > "Leonhart" also means "Lion heart" or "Brave Heart".> > Leonhart was married two times.> > His first wife was Maria Elisabeth (deceased) last name unknown. Maria was > born in 1687, and from Niedermehlingen, Germany. Together they had a > daughter named Maria Margareta, born in the year 1715. It has been said there was > another child born of this marriage, but there is nothing to prove or > disprove this information.> > Confirmation Register 1729> Maria Margareta, the daughter of Leonhart Kegel, Reformed and his deceased > wife Maria Elisabeth, Reformed of Niedermehlingen,
Germa!
ny. daughter 14 years > old.> > (Margareta Maria, Her real name was Maria Margarita, and her name was > changed because of her mothers death. )> > It is not known if Margareta Maria came to America with the family.> > Leonhart second marriage:> > Leonhart Kegel and his second wife was Susannah and her last name is > unknown. They were married in Germany. Leonhart was born 1684 and was from > Obermehlingen, Germany, and he was married in Germany to Susannah unknown. Susannah > was born in the year 1688 and from Obermehlingen, Germany.> > Baptism records where found in a small church in Sembach, (at the time of > the baptisms there was no church in Obermehlingen & Niedermehlingen, (in > english Ober and Nieder one means over and the other means under, now it is just > Mehlingen, near the Black Forest. and not far from Kaiserslautern)> > 1728 Baptism > Childs name Johan Theoblad, born the 29 of April and Baptised 1st of May. > Sponcers names, Theobald Fuchs, The sponser from
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lsenbon, and his wife > Christina. Andreas Busch from Trippstadt, Refo
rmed. > Parnents names Leonhart Kegel and his wife Susanna Kegel, Reformed from > Obermehlingen, Germany.> > 1728 Baptism > > Baptismal register 1728, Trippstadt, the 14th of March Johann Andreas > Buschung, and his wife Maria Elisabetha, a daughter baptised and named Maria > Elisabetha. God parents Leonhart Kegel of Mehlingen, Germany, and Maria Magdalena, > Johann Henrich Schmalenberger's Young wife Veronica Phillipp .> > Leonhart Kegell , (Leonard Cagle), his wife Susanna and their family, and > other members of the Reformed Lutherans. They left Mehlingen, Germany to bring > their familys to America (Mehlingen is 8m- N.E. of Kaiserslautern, on B40) > they went down the Rhine River to Rotterdam, Holland, they then took the > ship called the Loyal Judith Via Cowes England, then from there to the Port of > Philadelphia PA. and landed September 25, 1732. According to English > speaking Captians and Port officials and others and by the German Immigrants > themselves. There
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e 119 Palentine men and their families and they were > accompanied by a Lutheran Minister named was Johannes Christian Schultz. When the > immigrants landed in the Port of Philadelphia each of the head of household on > board and any on the age of 16 and older were taken to that the Oath of > Allegiance to the provice and State of Pennsylvania. (Leonharts children would > not have been old enough to be on the list. I think William would have been the > oldest son, and he would have only been around ten or so and the daughter > would not have been on the list if she came to America because she was a > female.) (The information will be in the Colonial records Vol III, on page 457, ) > They did have a language problem and thats was why there was a problem with > the spelling of there names, and there was more than one person putting their > names on different lists. Who ever was putting there names down spelled them > the way they thought it should be, thats why names are
spel!
led in different > ways on these lists. Leonhart's name was spelled tw
o different ways on the > passenger list, > The German Settlers were all industrious, econmical, and thrifty famers, > they were not afraid nor ashamed of hard work. When Leonhart Kegel arrived in > Philadephia County, they settled and bought land in Berks County, PA. The first > settlement by Germans was about 1734, and organized in 1752, this became the > the Capital of Reading. The name Berks County was derived form Berks County, > England. There was a man named Henrich Krehenhull, who changed his name to > Henry Graybill Jr. who also lived in Mehlingen, Germany the same time as did > Leonhart and his family. Henry Graybill Jr lived in Lancaster County, PA and > later moved to Hancock County, GA. (not sure if he came over on the same > ship, as did Leonhart ?) It is not known if Leonhart and Susanna died in PA. , > or moved with sons to North Carolina ?.> > Leonhart Kegel had a large black hat he wore most of the time. He handed the > hat down to his son John "Dutchman"
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egel who died 1799 in North Carolina. > John "Dutchman" handed the hat down to his youngest son William who was born > 1788-1860. William passed the hat down to his son Isaac who was born > 1790-1860. Isaac gave the hat to his oldest son John Westley who in turn handed it > down to his brother Spinks. Spinks then gave the hat to his sister who sold > the hat to Neil Isaac Andrew Cagle he in turn gave the the hat to Bob Baker > who donated the Hat to the Rocky Mt. Museum. (I have seen a photo of the hat, > it looks like a big top hat.) and is still in the museum. not in the museum > any more, Museum was flooded and one of the Cagle family member's wrote to > them and they sent her the hat. she took picture's and sent them to me. > > There was also a chair that Leonhart would stand on while waiting for his > father to come home from work. This chair was also donated to a Museum (Not > the same Museum) and this Museum later burned down. This museum was in PA, so > there must
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ave been some of his children and or grandchildren who stayed in > PA.
> > Leonhart Kegel was the ancestor of Americans numbering some 17,000, > individuals, plus. Thousands of other desendents who bear other surnames. > > It was not uncommon for German people to be known by more than one name, > since they used there middle names. > > It has been said that the Kegel's changed the spelling of their names when > they moved to North Carolina> > Leonhart owned 200 acre tact of land on 11 October 1737 in Alsace Township, > Berks County, PA. In the year 1748 Leonhart vacated his homestead in Alsace > and moved a few miles distant ot Brecknock Township, Berks County, PA. > Leonhart is said to have died about 1754 in Brecknock Township, Berks County, PA. > (Oley was next to Alsace)> > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request(a)rootsweb.com
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Hi
What about the notes that all of us have on Leonhart
Leonard Kegel, Leonard Cagle:
In German Leonhart, Leonhardt, Leinhart, means a shape of a bowling pin, a
shape of a cone, or a pin, also means Dweller by the stumps. The word
"Leonhart" also means "Lion heart" or "Brave Heart".
Leonhart was married two times.
His first wife was Maria Elisabeth (deceased) last name unknown. Maria was
born in 1687, and from Niedermehlingen, Germany. Together they had a
daughter named Maria Margareta, born in the year 1715. It has been said there was
another child born of this marriage, but there is nothing to prove or
disprove this information.
Confirmation Register 1729
Maria Margareta, the daughter of Leonhart Kegel, Reformed and his deceased
wife Maria Elisabeth, Reformed of Niedermehlingen, Germany. daughter 14 years
old.
(Margareta Maria, Her real name was Maria Margarita, and her name was
changed because of her mothers death. )
It is not known if Margareta Maria came to America with the family.
Leonhart second marriage:
Leonhart Kegel and his second wife was Susannah and her last name is
unknown. They were married in Germany. Leonhart was born 1684 and was from
Obermehlingen, Germany, and he was married in Germany to Susannah unknown. Susannah
was born in the year 1688 and from Obermehlingen, Germany.
Baptism records where found in a small church in Sembach, (at the time of
the baptisms there was no church in Obermehlingen & Niedermehlingen, (in
english Ober and Nieder one means over and the other means under, now it is just
Mehlingen, near the Black Forest. and not far from Kaiserslautern)
1728 Baptism
Childs name Johan Theoblad, born the 29 of April and Baptised 1st of May.
Sponcers names, Theobald Fuchs, The sponser from Alsenbon, and his wife
Christina. Andreas Busch from Trippstadt, Reformed.
Parnents names Leonhart Kegel and his wife Susanna Kegel, Reformed from
Obermehlingen, Germany.
1728 Baptism
Baptismal register 1728, Trippstadt, the 14th of March Johann Andreas
Buschung, and his wife Maria Elisabetha, a daughter baptised and named Maria
Elisabetha. God parents Leonhart Kegel of Mehlingen, Germany, and Maria Magdalena,
Johann Henrich Schmalenberger's Young wife Veronica Phillipp .
Leonhart Kegell , (Leonard Cagle), his wife Susanna and their family, and
other members of the Reformed Lutherans. They left Mehlingen, Germany to bring
their familys to America (Mehlingen is 8m- N.E. of Kaiserslautern, on B40)
they went down the Rhine River to Rotterdam, Holland, they then took the
ship called the Loyal Judith Via Cowes England, then from there to the Port of
Philadelphia PA. and landed September 25, 1732. According to English
speaking Captians and Port officials and others and by the German Immigrants
themselves. There were 119 Palentine men and their families and they were
accompanied by a Lutheran Minister named was Johannes Christian Schultz. When the
immigrants landed in the Port of Philadelphia each of the head of household on
board and any on the age of 16 and older were taken to that the Oath of
Allegiance to the provice and State of Pennsylvania. (Leonharts children would
not have been old enough to be on the list. I think William would have been the
oldest son, and he would have only been around ten or so and the daughter
would not have been on the list if she came to America because she was a
female.) (The information will be in the Colonial records Vol III, on page 457, )
They did have a language problem and thats was why there was a problem with
the spelling of there names, and there was more than one person putting their
names on different lists. Who ever was putting there names down spelled them
the way they thought it should be, thats why names are spelled in different
ways on these lists. Leonhart's name was spelled two different ways on the
passenger list,
The German Settlers were all industrious, econmical, and thrifty famers,
they were not afraid nor ashamed of hard work. When Leonhart Kegel arrived in
Philadephia County, they settled and bought land in Berks County, PA. The first
settlement by Germans was about 1734, and organized in 1752, this became the
the Capital of Reading. The name Berks County was derived form Berks County,
England. There was a man named Henrich Krehenhull, who changed his name to
Henry Graybill Jr. who also lived in Mehlingen, Germany the same time as did
Leonhart and his family. Henry Graybill Jr lived in Lancaster County, PA and
later moved to Hancock County, GA. (not sure if he came over on the same
ship, as did Leonhart ?) It is not known if Leonhart and Susanna died in PA. ,
or moved with sons to North Carolina ?.
Leonhart Kegel had a large black hat he wore most of the time. He handed the
hat down to his son John "Dutchman" Kegel who died 1799 in North Carolina.
John "Dutchman" handed the hat down to his youngest son William who was born
1788-1860. William passed the hat down to his son Isaac who was born
1790-1860. Isaac gave the hat to his oldest son John Westley who in turn handed it
down to his brother Spinks. Spinks then gave the hat to his sister who sold
the hat to Neil Isaac Andrew Cagle he in turn gave the the hat to Bob Baker
who donated the Hat to the Rocky Mt. Museum. (I have seen a photo of the hat,
it looks like a big top hat.) and is still in the museum. not in the museum
any more, Museum was flooded and one of the Cagle family member's wrote to
them and they sent her the hat. she took picture's and sent them to me.
There was also a chair that Leonhart would stand on while waiting for his
father to come home from work. This chair was also donated to a Museum (Not
the same Museum) and this Museum later burned down. This museum was in PA, so
there must have been some of his children and or grandchildren who stayed in
PA.
Leonhart Kegel was the ancestor of Americans numbering some 17,000,
individuals, plus. Thousands of other desendents who bear other surnames.
It was not uncommon for German people to be known by more than one name,
since they used there middle names.
It has been said that the Kegel's changed the spelling of their names when
they moved to North Carolina
Leonhart owned 200 acre tact of land on 11 October 1737 in Alsace Township,
Berks County, PA. In the year 1748 Leonhart vacated his homestead in Alsace
and moved a few miles distant ot Brecknock Township, Berks County, PA.
Leonhart is said to have died about 1754 in Brecknock Township, Berks County, PA.
(Oley was next to Alsace)
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I think there is some confusion regarding the Kegel/Cagle line being from Holland. To begin with the surname spelling of Kegel is absolute German and has little resemblance to a Dutch spelling. Records indicate that Leonhart sailed from Rotterdam which is a Holland port and along with Amsterdam were major ports of departure from Europe to America and later the United States. Jennifer is correct on the confusion of people with the nickname of "Dutch" or "Dutchman" being mistakenly identified with Holland just because they spoke "Deutsch" which translates to "German". Somewhere in all this exchange was a definition of "Kegel", which I am not sure is correct. "Maker of mantles with cowl" was the definition, this is would be a cloak with a hood. I am given to sticking with the German definition of "Kegel" being a bowling pin. Before it was used as a bowing pin it was a tool and possibly a war club or weapon for defense. These are my thoughts some based on research some !
on conj
ecture. Believe what you will, with my best wishes, Earl Cagle
Ashley, thank you for all your work in sharing this with us!
I want to add a comment about your note that there is no record of John "Dutchman" Cagle being Dutch. This is a common confusion that arises from the word "Dutch". Back in the 1700 and 1800's in America, "Dutch" was a word not applied to those from the Netherlands; but was in fact a reference to Deutschland, or Germany.
For example, the "Pennsylvania Dutch" were really the "Pennsylvania Deutsch", or in other words, Germans who lived in Pennsylvania. So John Dutchman Cagle was German through and through.
Hope this helps!
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> Henry, Jacob, Jeremiah, Lindsay, Margaret, Paul, Polly, Simon, Simun and William
> T. Cagle.
>
> 5th Place, Alabama with fifteen families; Celia, George, George,
>
> 1 Mary, Isaac R., Jeremiah, John T., Loyd H., Michael,
>
> 1 Nancy, Noah, Noah, P.A., Voluntine and William.-Cagle.
>
> j 6th Place, Mississippi with fourteen families; Elizabeth, G.B.,
>
> George, Greenberry, Isaac, James, James, Jefthy, Jesse, John, Lucinda, Nancy,
> Paul and Percella Cagle.
>
> 7th Place, Illinois with ten families; Ann, Charles, David, James, John, John,
> John L., Chris, Joseph, Louida and Timothy Cagle.
>
> 8th Place, Arkansas with eight families; Adam, Charles, George, Green L.,
> Hannah, Lucinda and Walter J. Cagle.
>
> 9th Place, Kentucky with seven families; Adam, Eli, Jacob, John, John, Sampson
> and Serand A. Cagle.
>
> 10th Place, Pennsylvania with six families; George Cagle and five £amilies with
> the spelling of Cagles, George J., Isaac,
>
> Jacob, Henry and John Cagles.
>
> 11th Place, California with five families; Benjamin; a negro David,
>
> " Henry, John C. and IVlarion Cagle.
>
> 12th Place, Wisconsin with four families; Charles, Charles,
>
> !i! Clarrissa and Tvlary Cagle.
>
> 3th Place, held by two states: Indiana with three families, Henry, 1:"'; Peter
> and Sarah Cagle, and Maryland with three fami-
>
> ,j:'!1 lies, Adam and George Cagle, both reporting they were
>
> . born in Germany. Also a female, Aden Cagle born in ':;'ir~ Germany and
> enumerated in the household of John and
>
> I!~!i:i Margaret Weavil, ages thirty-one and twenty-eight
>
> :I!:: respectively and both born in Germany.
>
> 14th Place, Louisiana with two families, Mary and William Cagle.
>
> '
>
> jiii; 15th Place, held by three states: New York with one family,
>
> J.!~
>
> I': Patrick Cagle; Texas with one family, M. G. Cagle;
>
> :11; Vermont with one family, George Cagle. Very inter-
>
> '.I,i esting to note the State of Ohio did not list a Cagle
>
> ii;~1 ~amily ~n ~850 census but did list two varient spell~
>
> Iliw '; 1.ngs: W1.ll1.am Caglemon and C. Caglem@l.
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Added by Ann Wilkes Allan, a descendant of Leonhart Cagle. She descends through Leonhart Cagle, David, George, Charles Robert, Millie Elizabeth Cagle m: Lewis P. Brown b: 11/27/1845 Albemarle, Stanly Co., NC d: 11/27/1918 Stanly Co., NC; Mitchell/Michel Brown Calvin Brown b: 3/7/1877 Stanley Co., Norwood, NC d: 11/24/1967 m: Elizabeth C. "Nezzie" Brown (my g-grandmother); James Samuel Brown ( my grandfather) b: 1/2/1902 Hoke Co. NC d: 2/1/1959 Hoke Co., NC m: Nettie May Lamb (my grandmother), their daughter, Martha Elizabeth "Libby" Wilkes (my mother) b: b: 12/15/1934 Hoke Co., NC d: 2/9/2007, NC who m: James Lewis Wilkes, still living.
Ann Wilkes Allan
Taken from the Cagle Journal of Historical Inquiry's, (July 1987 pg. 2) by; John G. Cagle of Little Rock , Arkansas:
Leonhart Kegell , (Leonard Cagle), his wife Susanna and their family , and other members of the Reformed Lutherans , left Mehlingen, Germany to bring their familys to America (Mehlingen is 8m- N.E. of Kaiserslautern, on B40) they went down the Rhine River to Rotterdam, Holland, they then took the ship called the Loyal Judith Via Cowes England, then from there to the Port of Philadelphia PA. and landed September 25, 1732. According to English speaking Captians and Port officials and others and by the German Immigrants themselves. There were 119 Palentine men and their families, and they were accompanied by a Lutheran Minister, named was Johannes Christian Schultz. When the immigrants landed in the Port of Philadelphia, each of the head of household on board and any on the age of 16 and older were taken to that the Oath of Allegiance to the province and State of Pennsylvania. (Leonharts children would not have been old enough to be on the list. I think William would have been the oldest son, and he would have only been around ten or so. and the daughter would not have been on the list if she came to America because she was a female.) (The information will be in the Colonial records Vol III, on page 457, ) They did have a language problem and that's was why there was a problem with the spelling of their names, and there was more than one person putting their names on different lists. Who ever was putting there names down spelled them the way they thought it should be, thats why names are spelled in different ways on these lists. Leonhart's name was spelled two different ways on the passenger list,
The German Settlers were all industrious, econmical, and thrifty famers, they were not afraid , nor ashamed of hard work, When Leonhart Kegel arrived in Philadephia County, they settled , and bought land in Berks County, PA..The first settlement by Germans was about 1734, and organized in 1752, this became the the Capital of Reading. The name Berks County Was derived form Berks County, England. There was a man named Henrich Krehenhull, who changed his name to Henry Graybill Jr. who also lived in Mehlingen, Germany , the same time as did Leonhart and his family. Henry Graybill Jr. lived in Lancaster county, PA. and later moved to Hancock County, GA. (not sure if he came over on the same ship, as did Leonhart ?) It is not known if Leonhart and Susanna died in PA. , or moved with sons to North Carolina ?.
Leonhart Kegel had a large black hat , he wore most of the time , he handed the hat down to his son John "Dutchman" Kegel , who died 1799 in North Carolina . John "Dutchman" handed the hat down to his youngest son , William who was born 1788-1860. William passed the hat down to his son Isaac, who was born 1790-1860. Isaac gave the hat to his oldest son John Westley , who in turn handed it down to his brother Spinks. Spinks then gave the hat to his sister , who sold the hat to Neil Isaac Andrew Cagle , he in turn gave the the hat to Bob Baker who donated the Hat to the Rocky Mt. Museum. (I have seen a photo of the hat, it looks like a big top hat.) and is still in the museum.
There was also a chair that Leonhart would stand on while waiting for his father to come home from work. This chair was also donated to a Museum , (Not the same Museum.) and this Museum later burned down , this Museum was in PA. , so there must have been some of his children and or grandchildren who stayed in PA.
Leonhart Kegel was the ancestor of Americans numbering some 17,000 , individuals, plus. Thousands of other desendents who bear other surnames.
It was not uncommon for German people to be known by more than one name, since they used there middle names.
It has been said that the Kegel's changed the spelling of their names when they moved to North Carolina
Leonhart owned 200 acre tact of land on 11 October 1737 in Alsace Township, Berks County, PA. In the year 1748 Leonhart vacated his homestead in Alsace and moved a few miles distant ot Brecknock Township, Berks County, Leonhart is said to have died about 1754 in Brecknock Township, Berks County, PA. (Oley was next to Alsace)
Ancient Pennsylvania Landmarks Known to Leonhart Kegel, 1732-54
Oley Township, Berks County, PA
Oley Township, a few miles east of Reading, in Berks Co., PA, is the only township in America which has been added to the National Register of Historic Places, as an entire Township. Its settlement dates back as far as 1699, and it ancient German and French Huguenot homesteads have building standing dated from 1706. It was already a generation old, and a thriving settlement, when the Cagles arrived from Germany in 1730s; and was nearly a half-century old when John "Dutchman" Cagle lived in Oley in the early 1750s. Leonhart Kegel, the 1732 immigrant, and believed to be father of John "Dutchman" Cagle, acquired land in Oley Township in 1737; at that time, however, old Oley Township encompassed more territory than does the present Oley Twp., and section in which Leonhart lived was later made into Alsace Township.
The economy of Oley Township was based, originally, on farming in the broad Oley Valley, and on iron-working in the scenic hills which ring the valley. Of the iron furnaces and forges in Oley, perhaps the most famous was that of Iarger Family (later Anglicized to "Hunter"), headed by Nicholas Hunter. In an obscure court case, dating for 1753, Berks Co. records show that Nicholas Hunter, on one occasion, filed suite against a John Kegle, believed to be John "Dutchman" Cagle, who later moved to North Carolina in 1754-55. Oldest homestead in Oley is that of Johannes Keim, built 1706; he was the ancestor of the Kime family of Guilford Co., NC. Oley Township furnished a number of families to central North Carolina during the 1740s adn 1750s including the Keim, Cagle, and Stutts Families. (The Nicholas Hunter homestead in Oley Twp., near the ruins of the famed Oley Forge. The Oley Lutheran Church stands nearby, but its early recors are lost. One of the most memorable sights in the city of Reading, Berks Co., PA, is Alsace Hill in the northern part of town, capped by the twin towers of the Alsace Lutheran and Alsace German Reformed Churches. The two churches, identical in construction, stand on either side of a common parking lot, and share a common graveyard. From date of founding in 1732, until construction of the present buildings in 1907, the two congrrefations worshipped in a single building, at alternatin times, under a "Union Church" arrangement.
The Alsace churches stand on the homestead of Dewalt Baum, closest neighbor of Leonhart Cagle, during Leonard's period of residence, 1737-1748, in Alsace Township. The Cagles may will have been members of the Alsace Lutheran Church, but this cannot be verified, as early records of the Church have been lost.
There is a replica of the original Alsace Church building, which served the congragtion form ca1737-1753 replaced by a stone church in 1753. The log church was in use during the period of Leonard Cagle's residence in the township, and stood about a quarter-mile from his home. The present Alsace Lutheran Church, in use since 1907. and identical building, standing adjacent, is the German Ref. church.
Here is a paragraph from the published history of the Alsace Church describes the expansion of the Church in the era of 1748-1754. In 1748, the year of the founding of Reading, PA, Leonard Cagle, vacted his homstead in Alsace and move a few miles distant to Brecknock Township, in Berks Co.
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Subject: [CAGLE] Kegel/Cagle from Holland?
I think there is some confusion regarding the Kegel/Cagle line being from Holland. To begin with the surname spelling of Kegel is absolute German and has little resemblance to a Dutch spelling. Records indicate that Leonhart sailed from Rotterdam which is a Holland port and along with Amsterdam were major ports of departure from Europe to America and later the United States. Jennifer is correct on the confusion of people with the nickname of "Dutch" or "Dutchman" being mistakenly identified with Holland just because they spoke "Deutsch" which translates to "German". Somewhere in all this exchange was a definition of "Kegel", which I am not sure is correct. "Maker of mantles with cowl" was the definition, this is would be a cloak with a hood. I am given to sticking with the German definition of "Kegel" being a bowling pin. Before it was used as a bowing pin it was a tool and possibly a war club or weapon for defense. These are my thoughts some based on research some !
on conj
ecture. Believe what you will, with my best wishes, Earl Cagle
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This new discussion of where our Cagles came to America from prompts me to ask a question I have asked before. Remember during the period being discussed many, many people were fleeing into the Scandavian countries for safety before moving out of Europe.
My g grandfather, Charles H. Cagle (1824-1908) told his grandchildren that his family had sailed from Holland and there was a family named VanCleve on the same ship. Have no idea if the VanCleve/VanClive family was of some later importance or if it was just a name he remembered from some long ago story his family told. I have not located this name on the Royal Judith. If anyone has access to a lot of immigration of Germans to America, please check to see if you can find their name.
Because of naming patterns, locations, etc. I believe that my family connects to the Leonhart Kegal immigrant but could, of course, have come at another time on another ship. Charles Cagle (above) was the son of Leonard Cagle (1798-1866).
Dana
Ashley, thanks for the info, but part 4 is missing.
Betty Cagle Lee
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> Who is the Aministrator of this board? I have a 6 page report on Cagles.
> Leonhart may not be the father of all Cagles. I have a report that says
> Cagles came over in many ships I dont like this holding up the boards
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Hi,
Been quite awhile since I have been on this board.
Hope you and yours all had a very happy holiday season.
I'm still trying to find info on Will Dickinson Born: Abt 1875 Possible Marion Co., AL
Married to Margaret Catherine Cagle Born: 6 Jun 1875 Marion Co., AL
Daughter of: William Taylor Cagle B: 1 Jul 1848 Hancock Co., AL D: 18 Nov 1919
and Camila Southern B: 13 Mar 1853 D: 10 Oct 1921
Also, still looking for info on Camila as well.
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Henry, Jacob, Jeremiah, Lindsay, Margaret, Paul, Polly, Simon, Simun and William T. Cagle.
5th Place, Alabama with fifteen families; Celia, George, George,
1 Mary, Isaac R., Jeremiah, John T., Loyd H., Michael,
1 Nancy, Noah, Noah, P.A., Voluntine and William.-Cagle.
j 6th Place, Mississippi with fourteen families; Elizabeth, G.B.,
George, Greenberry, Isaac, James, James, Jefthy, Jesse, John, Lucinda, Nancy, Paul and Percella Cagle.
7th Place, Illinois with ten families; Ann, Charles, David, James, John, John, John L., Chris, Joseph, Louida and Timothy Cagle.
8th Place, Arkansas with eight families; Adam, Charles, George, Green L., Hannah, Lucinda and Walter J. Cagle.
9th Place, Kentucky with seven families; Adam, Eli, Jacob, John, John, Sampson and Serand A. Cagle.
10th Place, Pennsylvania with six families; George Cagle and five £amilies with the spelling of Cagles, George J., Isaac,
Jacob, Henry and John Cagles.
11th Place, California with five families; Benjamin; a negro David,
" Henry, John C. and IVlarion Cagle.
12th Place, Wisconsin with four families; Charles, Charles,
!i! Clarrissa and Tvlary Cagle.
3th Place, held by two states: Indiana with three families, Henry, 1:"'; Peter and Sarah Cagle, and Maryland with three fami-
,j:'!1 lies, Adam and George Cagle, both reporting they were
. born in Germany. Also a female, Aden Cagle born in ':;'ir~ Germany and enumerated in the household of John and
I!~!i:i Margaret Weavil, ages thirty-one and twenty-eight
:I!:: respectively and both born in Germany.
14th Place, Louisiana with two families, Mary and William Cagle.
'
jiii; 15th Place, held by three states: New York with one family,
J.!~
I': Patrick Cagle; Texas with one family, M. G. Cagle;
:11; Vermont with one family, George Cagle. Very inter-
'.I,i esting to note the State of Ohio did not list a Cagle
ii;~1 ~amily ~n ~850 census but did list two varient spell~
Iliw '; 1.ngs: W1.ll1.am Caglemon and C. Caglem@l.
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George Sr., George Sr., Harman, Henry, Jacob Sr., John, John, John,
John, Jonathan, Lindsay, Martin, Martin, William, vlilliam and William Sr. Also a Enoch Cagel is listed for 1\1oore County. Ohio
had two families, George and John Cagle; Pennsylvania had two fami- ilies, Jacob and Rachel Cagle; Tennessee had thirty-one families, Adam, David, David, David, Elijah, Enoch, George, George J., Henry, Henry, Henry, Iquatnes, Isaac, Isam, Jacob, John, John, Johnathan,
~ Lewis, Littleton, Lucy, Temperance, William, William, Ylilliam,
William Jr., 1/lilliam Sr. and William W. Cagle.
The Cagle family of America has been presented 1790 thru 1840 in alphabetical order while trying to maintain a low key of possi- ble human error. \ie have seen the growth of the family from 1790 with two states and thirteen families to 1850, which includes eighteen states and two hundred and three families. Looking at
the facts on the family for each census year, it isn't far from
the following: 1790 with 13 families.
1800 with 16 families.
1810 with 28 families.
1820 with 39 families.
1830 ~li th 67 families.
1840 with 105 families. 1850 with 203 families.
Each decade, a period of ten years, has shown an increase in the number of families. In fact, from 1840 to 1850 it almost
doubled in numbers of families. In 1850 some states did not have
a Cagle family listed, while other states were added to the list. In giving the Christian (Given names) of heads of households for 1850, the states are listed in according to their rank with larg- est number of families rather than alphabetical order. However, the families are listed alphabetical as found in each state.
In 1850;
1st Place, Tennesse with forty-six families; Allen, Benjamin S., Charles, Charles Sr., D.M., David, David, Elijah, Elizabeth, Enoch, George, George, George, Henry, Henry, Henry, Isaac, Jacob, James, John, John, John, John, John, John B., Martha, Martin, Mary A., Phereby, Raleigh, Robert, Robert, Sally, Samuel, Sarah, Shaderick, Susan C., Temperance, Thomas, Volentine, William, William, William, William G., Winey and Talitma. (The surname of last person was spelled as Cagls and believed to be in error).
2nd Place, North Carolina with thirty-five families; Abigail, Charles, Charles Sr., Charley, S. Spinks, Elisha, Elisha, Elizabeth, Ellison J., Enoch, George, George, George, George Jr., George W., Henry, Henry, Isaac, Isham, Jacob, Jesse, John, John, John, John J., Jonathan, Judith, Leonard, Martin C., Solomon, William,
William, William, William and William A.
3rd Place, Georgia with twenty-five families; David, Eli, Elijah, Eliza, G.B., George, George, Hamon, Henry, Jacob, Jeptha, Joseph, Joseph, Katharine, Leonard, Margaret (Widow), Martin, Melinda, Parthina, Robert, Samuel, William, William, William and Zilphiao
4th Place, Missouri with seventeen families; Edwin (Cagel), Eliza (Cagan), Charles, Elijah, Elizabeth, George, Henry,
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rather with the original German spelling. Eph ain Benedict Kaubel arrived October 1805, on ship "Liberty" from Amsterdam. On the same ship were Thomas Kegel with his son. Last for the list was Henrig Kigel and Vrouw, child sailed from Holland, 15th day of
July 1709.
>From the names listed in the above immigration records it can be seen that many people from Germany have settled in America by
the family name and it is very confusing when trying to determine
a Cagle ancestor. While in Washington, D.C. doing research per- taining to genealogy, it was learned no records for immigration were available before 1820. After that date records were kept
and many family members were found after that date.
To do Cagle family research before 1790, the best source
would be the American Revolution records, and yet, not many
Cagle members are found. It was confusing to try to determine by spelling. Another source is land records and for Cagle, they are scarce when thinking in terms of Cagle numbers. Land records before 1800 for the family are mostly confined to the states of
North Carolina and Pennsylvania.
Due to absence of an early compiled Cagle history during the early part of the American history or colonization, we do not have much to build on with a high degree of certainty. Surely, we must rely on the United States population census which started in the year of 1790 and continued each ten years through 1980. At the time of this writing only the 1790 thru 1900 census have been released to the general public. However, a good glimpse of the Cagle family can be had through them. As they are presented some oversight may occur in this compiled work. Looking at the 1790 census of North Carolina we find ten Cagle families for Moore
County and two families listed for the County of Cumberland. One family listed in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and this family still retaining the original German spelling of Kegal. In the
1790 Cagle homes there were a total of forty-one males and thirty- three females. The names o£ heads of households were Christian, David, George, George, Henry, Jacob, John, Leonard, Roger, William, Charles Jr. and Jacob.
The 1800 Census seems to show the family remaining in North Carolina, with a total of fifteen families. The heads of house- holds were Benjamin, Catherine, David, George, George, Hemery, Hemery Jr., Henry, John, Leonard, Leonard, Mary, Mary, Peator and
William. Hemery and Peator are both believed to be an error in
spelling. The State o£ Pennsylvania shows three families by the names of Cagley but may not have any connection to the name spelt as Cagle. The three were James, James and Robert. The same state showed one £amly; Henry Cagle, with three males and two females. The state o£ New York showed no family spelling except Caglestone, Andrew and Cagleston, Comfort. The last two names do show some
connection to our family spelling Cagle.
The 1810 census shows two £amilies in the State o£ Kentucky: Leonard with three males and one female in the household, and a
Sampson with two older and one younger males and one female.
Records of later years show Leonard and Sampson to be brothers. A more complete history on the Sampson Cagle descendants have been
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Pennsylvania, 1819. However, he arrived much later than other
persons of the name. Thomas Kegel arrived 1750, by ship
Edinbourgh. The book, Penns lvania German Pioneers, by HinklEm
show Kegel {Kegell, Kegill Lenhart, Maria and Thomas arriving in America. A father and son, Thomas Kegel and son, list 488, on
board the ship Little Cherub, Daniel Brewto, Master, October 18,
1805. Lenord Kegill, age 48, came on ship Royal Judith of London, September 25, 1732, in list 24A. Lenhart Kegell was on list 24b.
In the above, there is the possibility of seven Cagle persons
arriving.
The following is an excerpt from a letter by Mr. Walter C.
Whitley, "Cagles (Kegill) seem to have come from Germany. Leonard
Kegill arrived in Philadelphia 1732 from Germany aboard the Royal
Judith. He had land in Philadelphia 1737. Leonard is probably
the father of Charles Sr., John, Leonard, George, Henry Sr., Cagle."
In addition, Mr. Whitley wrote, "Peter Cagle came to America in
1760 from Gellestadt, Germany. There was a George that had 170
acres of land in Montgomery County, North Carolina, in 1826." Mr.
Whitley was the author of Witley .Families of North Carolina, and ,
he is a Cagle-Whitley line descendant. The Cagle-Whitley families .
appear elsewhere in this book by written consent before Mr.
\Vhi tley' s death..
Another list is given as follows; Kagel, Heinrich,
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1765; Kagel, Johan Conrad, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1753; Kagel, Martin, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1751;
Kagelberger arrived in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1740; Kagele,
Henrich, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1754; Kegel, Hermann,
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1860; Kegel, M.. Barb, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania 1753; Kegel, Thomas, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1750;
Kegel, Thomas, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1805, with son; Kegeler,
John G., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1827; Kegelin, Maria,
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1759; Kegell, Lenhart, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania 1732; Kegelman, Leonhart 35, England and America,
1709; Keggel, John, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1870~ Kegill,
( Lenord 48, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1732. The above from pas-
senger and immigration lists.
"Immigrants to the Middle Colonies," page 106; Kegelman,
Leonard 3) years of age, with wife, 9 sons and 6 daughters. (The
above is from a list of immigrants from the Member of the Reformed Palayinate who came to England in 1709) "Rupp's 30,000 Names of Immigrants"; Henrich Kegele, on ship "Richard and Mary," Sept.
30., 1854; Henry Kegel came on good ship "Chance", September 9,
1765; Thomas Kegel came on good ship "Chance" September 9, 1765;
~Iartin Kegel came on good ship "Nepture", September 24, 1751. The
above information was received from Mrs. Z. V. Ausband, of Stanley
County, North Carolina.
The following early immigrants were submitted by 11r. Grover
L. Cagle of 1203 Lincoln #12, San Rafael, California 94901, as
well as some of the preceding ones; Janna Kagee arrived 15 Nov.
1803 from Amsterdam, on ship "Favorite", with John Alfton as
Shipmaster, three "Cagle" men arrived on 25 September 1732, from
Rotterdam on ship Loyal Judith, with Rob Turner as shipmaster.
The three were Leonord Kegill, Lenhert and Lenhort Kegell.
The three were not listed in the original records as Cagle, but
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