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Searching for any information on Martha CADDELL (Cattel?) who married Burrell
HILL of Surry Co. VA in 1766. Martha may have been some relation to Capt.
William CATTEL of SC, whom a Burrell HILL served under during the
Revolutionary War. Information from HILL researchers indicates that a Burrell
HILL (son of John Hill and Mildred GILLIAM) died in 1780 in Ft. Moultrie.
Thanks for any help.
Byron HILL
P.O. Box 120603
Nashville, TN 37212
GBH333(a)aol.com
Dear Ian (and List),
Thanks to tour messages yesterday, I think I have found the places we
are talking about : Broekhuizen is on the Dutch - German border, on the
Dutch side, and it is close to some other places I read about in my
archives.
Indeed, Martin CUDELL was born NEAR Broekhuizen, in Eijgelshoven
(Netherlands), on August 8, 1773.
His father Antoine Cudell was born there as well.
Martin's grandparents were apparently married in the municipality of
Marienberg-Scherpenseel, which is on the German side of the border, but
only a few miles away from Eijgelshoven and Broekhuizen.
Once I knew in which country I had to look, things became much easier !
Now, the earliest data I have on my family is the marriage on August 30,
1734, of Anna Barbara Jungschlager and Jacobus C(o)udell, in
Marienberg-Scherpenseel. I don't know when or where exactly they were
born.
I'm asking for advice here as you all seem to be experimented
genealogists : should I just go to this municipality and ask to see the
registers (birth/death certificates, for instance), or do you think
there are smartest ways to get these certificates ?
By the way, I also wish to thank Don White for his info on Pat Caddell !
Thanks everybody !
Regine
Cordialement,
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,
Régine DENAEGEL
ELECTRABEL SC / HZ
Service Traductions / Vertaaldienst
Tél.: 02/501.24.90
Fax: 02/518.61.26
E-mail : Regine.Denaegel(a)electrabel.be
>----------
>From: Ian Cadell[SMTP:icad@patrol.i-way.co.uk]
>Sent: mardi 11 mai 1999 21:37
>To: Denaegel Régine
>Subject: Re: Cudell
>
>Dear Regine,
>
>> where in the Netherlands ?
>
>No idea! But, for you, I'll find out. Stand by for map references!
>
>à demain ...
>
>Ian
>
>
----------
> From: Ian Cadell <icad(a)patrol.i-way.co.uk>
> To: Denaegel Régine <Regine.Denaegel(a)electrabel.be>
> Subject: Re: Cudell
> Date: 11 May 1999 14:34
>
>
> Dear Regine
> ----------
> >Does anyone know where Broekhuisen (= Broichhausen) (Rimbourg) is or was
> >(probably Germany), or where I could find some info ?
> >
>
> These places are in the Netherlands (Holland)
>
> Ian Cadell
>
I forgot to add the following information to the family tree I posted a
few hours ago :
ADOLPH CUDELL
>Born (1850) and educated in Germany, he migrated to this country when
>a youth and in 1873 settled in Chicago. For several years he practiced
>there in association with architect A. Blumenthal, and in the late
>nineteenth century devoted his time to designing a number of large
>residences, among them the Perry Smith house at Pine and Huron
>Streets, 1876; the Cyrus McCormick home in the 600 block of North Rush
>Street, 1877 (estant in 1940); Aldine Square, 38th Street and Vincennes
>Avenue, 1878; and the home of Conrad Seipp at 3300 South Michigan
>Avenue, 1885. Adolph Cudell died on August 18, 1910.
>
He must be linked to my family in some way, but I still haven't found
out where he fits into my tree ...
I was also told, a few months ago, that there are / have been other
Cudells in the USA; one of the assistants of President Carter might have
been a Cudell, but I don't know how I could check this.
Best regards,
Regine
>
>
>
>
Regine,
Good to hear from you and appreciate your lineage to the List. How's
everything in Belgium?
Your question about "Broekhuisen (= Broichhausen) (Rimbourg) is or was
>(probably Germany)".
According to my Encyclopedia Britannica on CD...there was a Burghausen,
Bavaria, Germany (around 1800). Of the above place names, this is the
only reference that was close.
Bill Caddell
============================================================
Denaegel Régine wrote:
>
> >Hello again,
> >I just received information saying that my previous message was not readable,
> >so here it is again :
> >
> >As Cudell seems to be a spelling variation of Caddell / Calder etc., some of
> >you may be interested in my line. I am quite new to genealogy and I hope this
> >presentation will be clear enough; if not, advice is always welcome.
> >b means "born" and + means "dead".
> >
> >So, here's my line, beginning with myself :
> >
> >
> >me : Regine Ann Cathy Denaegel
> >my mother :Arlette Gilberte Yvonne Cudell my uncle: Jean-Jacques Vital
> >Georges Cudell,
> >my grandfather :Georges Victor Lambert Cudell, b20/01/1920 - +23/02/1983 (he
> >married Yvonne Marie Vanhoutte)
> >My gfather's sister :Paula Georgette Eugenie Cudell, b29/09/1911
> >My g-gfather :Georges Jean Louis Cudell, b25/10/1889, in Liege, +15/09/1962,
> >in Ostende (he married Eugenie Dupont, b1889)
> >My g-g-gfather: Georges Guillaume Adolphe Cudell, b 12/01/1851 in Liege (he
> >married Lambertine
> > Rasquinet)
> >My g-g-g-gfather : Mathieu-Adolphe Cudell, b19/05/1815 in Maastricht (lawyer)
> >He had other children than Georges Guillaume, who were :
> >Marie Françoise Adolphine Cudell, b18/12/1844, no children
> >Flore Marie Adolphine Cudell, b12/11/1847, no children
> >Edmond Cudell, b01/02/1858, went to live in PARIS)
> >My g-g-g-g-gfather : Martin Cudell, b08/08/1773 in Broekhuisen (=
> >Broichhausen) (Rimbourg), +30/12/1845 in Hasselt
> >Martin Cudell was also the father of Othon-Edouard Cudell, b30/05/1814, +
> >1896 in Montreux (who married Emerence Massart de Bronckart, Liege, on
> >23/01/1823, + 15/07/1890)
> >Here's the descendance of Othon Cudell : Gustave 16/1/1847 -- Charles
> >b12/9/1848 +30/03/98 -- Eugene b17/7/1844 -- Emile b04/1843 -- Victor b31/
> >01/1842, +29/07/70 -- Adele b04/ 03/1841 -- Laure b03/06/1850, +27/01/1881.
> >Gustave is thought to have emigrated to the USA, but I haven't found any
> >record of it yet.
> >Eugene had three sons : Andre, Charles and Gontran Cudell, whose son was Guy.
> >Charles's descendance is as follows :
> >Rene Cudell
> >b15/11/1876
> >+24/09/1944
> >
> >Jean Cudell
> >b17/11/1917
> >+29/5/1991
> >
> >Jean-Rene Cudell (brother: Robert(o) Cudell (Madrid))
> >
> >
> >
> > Back to Martin Cudell, my g-g-g-g-gfather.
> >
> >My g-g-g-g-g-gfather was Antoine C(o)udell, whose name might have been
> >written either Coudell or Cudell -- He was a physician --b1740 / +20/03/1806
> >in Broichhausen
> >drowned
> >Antoine had another son who was Mathieu Cudell, physician as well, who might
> >have originated the German branch of the family (there was a Cudell carmaker
> >in Germany). He had a daughter :
> > Therese-Regine Cudell
> > b07/09/1822 in Rolduc (Aachen)
> > + Liege on 02/04/1894
> >
> >My g-g-g-g-g-g-gfather : Jacobus Coudell, Dutch physician. He married Ana
> >Barbara Jungschlager on 30/08/1734.
> >He had a brother named Pierre Joseph Cudell.
> >Jacobus, too, had other sons than my ancestor, who were :
> > Wolfgang Joseph Cudell
> > b30/03/1756
> >
> > Jacobus Cudell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >To conclude, I hope these names will ring a bell to some of you. If I can be
> >of any help, please advise.
> >Does anyone know where Broekhuisen (= Broichhausen) (Rimbourg) is or was
> >(probably Germany), or where I could find some info ?
> >
> >Thanks a lot !
> >Regine
> >
> >
> >
>Hello again,
>I just received information saying that my previous message was not readable,
>so here it is again :
>
>As Cudell seems to be a spelling variation of Caddell / Calder etc., some of
>you may be interested in my line. I am quite new to genealogy and I hope this
>presentation will be clear enough; if not, advice is always welcome.
>b means "born" and + means "dead".
>
>So, here's my line, beginning with myself :
>
>
>me : Regine Ann Cathy Denaegel
>my mother :Arlette Gilberte Yvonne Cudell my uncle: Jean-Jacques Vital
>Georges Cudell,
>my grandfather :Georges Victor Lambert Cudell, b20/01/1920 - +23/02/1983 (he
>married Yvonne Marie Vanhoutte)
>My gfather's sister :Paula Georgette Eugenie Cudell, b29/09/1911
>My g-gfather :Georges Jean Louis Cudell, b25/10/1889, in Liege, +15/09/1962,
>in Ostende (he married Eugenie Dupont, b1889)
>My g-g-gfather: Georges Guillaume Adolphe Cudell, b 12/01/1851 in Liege (he
>married Lambertine
> Rasquinet)
>My g-g-g-gfather : Mathieu-Adolphe Cudell, b19/05/1815 in Maastricht (lawyer)
>He had other children than Georges Guillaume, who were :
>Marie Françoise Adolphine Cudell, b18/12/1844, no children
>Flore Marie Adolphine Cudell, b12/11/1847, no children
>Edmond Cudell, b01/02/1858, went to live in PARIS)
>My g-g-g-g-gfather : Martin Cudell, b08/08/1773 in Broekhuisen (=
>Broichhausen) (Rimbourg), +30/12/1845 in Hasselt
>Martin Cudell was also the father of Othon-Edouard Cudell, b30/05/1814, +
>1896 in Montreux (who married Emerence Massart de Bronckart, Liege, on
>23/01/1823, + 15/07/1890)
>Here's the descendance of Othon Cudell : Gustave 16/1/1847 -- Charles
>b12/9/1848 +30/03/98 -- Eugene b17/7/1844 -- Emile b04/1843 -- Victor b31/
>01/1842, +29/07/70 -- Adele b04/ 03/1841 -- Laure b03/06/1850, +27/01/1881.
>Gustave is thought to have emigrated to the USA, but I haven't found any
>record of it yet.
>Eugene had three sons : Andre, Charles and Gontran Cudell, whose son was Guy.
>Charles's descendance is as follows :
>Rene Cudell
>b15/11/1876
>+24/09/1944
>
>Jean Cudell
>b17/11/1917
>+29/5/1991
>
>Jean-Rene Cudell (brother: Robert(o) Cudell (Madrid))
>
>
>
> Back to Martin Cudell, my g-g-g-g-gfather.
>
>My g-g-g-g-g-gfather was Antoine C(o)udell, whose name might have been
>written either Coudell or Cudell -- He was a physician --b1740 / +20/03/1806
>in Broichhausen
>drowned
>Antoine had another son who was Mathieu Cudell, physician as well, who might
>have originated the German branch of the family (there was a Cudell carmaker
>in Germany). He had a daughter :
> Therese-Regine Cudell
> b07/09/1822 in Rolduc (Aachen)
> + Liege on 02/04/1894
>
>My g-g-g-g-g-g-gfather : Jacobus Coudell, Dutch physician. He married Ana
>Barbara Jungschlager on 30/08/1734.
>He had a brother named Pierre Joseph Cudell.
>Jacobus, too, had other sons than my ancestor, who were :
> Wolfgang Joseph Cudell
> b30/03/1756
>
> Jacobus Cudell
>
>
>
>
>
>To conclude, I hope these names will ring a bell to some of you. If I can be
>of any help, please advise.
>Does anyone know where Broekhuisen (= Broichhausen) (Rimbourg) is or was
>(probably Germany), or where I could find some info ?
>
>Thanks a lot !
>Regine
>
>
>
Bill,
The Caudill group of searchers claim that the James Caudle and Thomas
Caudle were from Lunenburg Co. Va. via Wilkes Co. NC.
There were a number of Banks in Chatham Co. NC and lived near Buckner
Caudle. He, Buckner, witnessed a deed for Banks in 1783 and Banks
witnessed a deed for Buckner in 1790.� If you want I can check my notes
for the deeds, Banks first name etc. The Banks name was also in Rowan
Co. NC and involved again wih Buckner Caudle and also some Buckners.
Again, if you want I will check my notes. All this is from memory,
however it is close.
There were other Caudle's in SC� I can pull this too if you wish.
Some where I have a note on a Caddell being in Charleston on a deed,
forget the exact date - probably you already have.
Also a John Caudle applied for permission in 1801 to the State of
Georgia for he and his family to cross though the Indian land to
Mississippi. I have not placed him as yet in the Caudle group.
Dick
I have been researching the BANKS surname in hopes of finding a
connection with James Banks CADDELL. As of yet I have not. However, I
recently found the following family that could be of his same generation
or at most one removed.
James BANKS :b. ca 1745, place unknown
m. unknown
spouse unknown
Children:
1. Joab :b. 1765, NC
2. Jacob :b. 1774, NC
3. Solomon :b. 1775, NC
4. female :b. 1779, NC or SC
5. Joseph :b. 1780, Pendleton Dist., SC
6. George :b. 1782, Pendleton Dist., SC
7. Ransom P. :b. 1783, Pendleton Dist., SC
Descendants of Solomon BANKS lived in Pendleton Dist., SC and later
Franklin Co., TN while some went to TX.
Descendants of Ransom P. BANKS lived in Pendleton Dist., SC and later in
Pickens Co., SC when Pendleton was divided into counties.
Do any of you have any documented information on descendants of James
Banks CADDELL that lived in Pendleton Dist., SC?
I seem to recall that one of James Banks CADDELLs descendants reported
that his son, James Daniel CADDELL's children was born in Pendleton
Dist., SC. The James CADDELL (CAUDEL in 1790, CADWELL in 1800) of
Pendleton is thought to be James Daniel. Also in the 1800 census were
Thomas CADDELL (listed CAUDEL in 1790 census), John CADDELL (CADWELL in
1800) and Adam and John BURCHFIELD.
Has anyone indentified the Thomas CADDELL of Pendleton Dist., SC? At one
time I thought he was a son of Andrew from Orange Co., NC, but I have
found only one possible clue to a connection. Thomas was in the 1800
census, page 15 with Joseph BURCHFIELD, the grandfather of James W.
BURCHFIELD (son of Adam BURCHFIELD) whose daughter Mary married Andrew
Jackson CADDEL, a grandson of Andrew CADDEL of Orange Co., NC. Also in
Pendleton were Adam (mentioned above) and John BURCHFIELD, sons of
Joseph BURCHFIELD. If Thomas was of Andrew of Orange Co., NC, he would
be an older son. However, no deed or other records have been found in NC
for Thomas.
In 1810 census of Pendleton were Burwell GREEN three houses away from
John CADDELL who was 20 houses away from James BURCHFIELD who was next
door to John BURCHFIELD who was next door to Adam BURCHFIELD who was 30
houses away from Andrew CADDELL who was six houses away from his father
Andrew CADDELL (Andrew of Orange Co., NC), all known to be related.
Bill Caddell
The following cemetery listing was found on the Hardeman County, TN
GEWWEB home page.
Following the listing I have included the info I have on this family.
Kate (CADDELL) Yarborough was one of the daughters. Who were the KERLEY,
ROBERTS and CRAIN that were buried there?
================================================
CADDELL CEMETERY
Located off Highway 18 N just before Highway 100 behind a home at the
edge of a field.
Read and transcribed by Charlotte Holloway March 10, 1999
Caddell, Bryant 6 Jan 1836-3 Jan 1911
Caddell, Sadie 4 Nov 1837-10 Jan 1911
Caddell, Ida Frances 11 Feb 1875-17 Feb 1931
Caddell, Lucy 20 June 1869-9 Feb 1883
Crain, Sarah couldnt read
Crain, Ellen 14 Mar 1818-1 Jan 1888
Crain, Abijaih 14 Mar 1817-3 Dec 1895
Crain, Wm L 9 Sept 1842-5 Feb 1860
Crain, Martha A 4 Jan 1849-15 Sept 1856
Kerley, Jesse 5 Mar 1791-3 Jan 1871
Roberts, Silis M 29 June 1776-1870
Yarbrough, Kate 1857-1939
Yarbrough, Nannie 19 May 1865-1 Feb 1901
================================================
III.3.13.1. BRYANT "BURT" CADDELL. d. 3 Jan 1911, Hardeman Co., TN
m. ca 1856, Moore Co., NC
Sadie Sullivan :b. 4 Nov 1837, Moore Co., NC
:d. 10 Jan 1911, Hardeman Co., TN
Children:
1. Catherine :b. ca 1857, Moore, NC
2. Nancy :b. ca 1866, Hardeman Co., TN
3. John H. :b. Jun 1868, Hardeman Co., TN
4. Lucy :b. 20 Jun 1869, Hardeman Co., TN
5. Ida Frances :b. 11 Feb 1875, Hardeman Co., TN
BRYANT "BURT" CADDELL, son of Joseph and Catherine (Dowdy) CADDELL, was
born (6 Jan 1836), raised and married in Moore County, NC. He and his
family later moved to Hardeman County, TN. Sadie was the daughter of
Joel and Nancy (Seawell) Sullivan.
III.3.13.1.1. CATHERINE "KATE" CADDELL. d. 1939, Hardeman Co., TN
m. ca 1877, prob. Hardeman Co., TN
Frank Yarborough :b. ca 1855, place unknown
CATHERINE CADDELL, daughter of Bryant and Sadie (Sullivan) CADDELL, was
born (1857) in Moore County, NC, and raised and probably married in
Hardeman County, TN.
III.3.13.1.2. NANCY CADDELL. d. unknown
m. ca 1884, prob. Hardeman Co., TN
Frank P. Yarborough :b. ca 1860, place unknown
NANCY CADDELL, daughter of Bryant and Sadie (Sullivan) CADDELL, was born
(1866) and probably raised and married in Hardeman County, TN. She had
no children.
III.3.13.1.3. JOHN H. CADDELL. d. ca 1914, prob. Oklahoma
m. ca 1888, prob. Hardeman Co., TN
Maggie Chapman :b. ca 1870, place unknown
Children:
1. Oklahoma :b. ca 1910, OK
JOHN H. CADDELL, son of Bryant and Sadie (Sullivan) CADDELL, was born
(Jun 1868) and probably raised and married in Hardeman County, TN. In
the 1900 census, John H., was listed as residing at the West Hospital
for the insane. Soon after he married the doctor advised "western air",
so Maggie prepared for the trek ... horse, wagon and bedding and carried
John to Oklahoma, where their child was born.
III.3.13.1.3.1. OKLAHOMA CADDELL. d. unknown
OKLAHOMA CADDELL, daughter of John H. and Maggie (Chapman) CADDELL, was
born (1910) and raised in Oklahoma. She later lived at 119 Daws,
Norman, OK.
III.3.13.1.4. LUCY CADDELL. d. 9 Feb 1883, Hardeman Co., TN
LUCY CADDELL, daughter of Bryant and Sadie (Sullivan) CADDELL, was born
(20 June 1869) and probably raised in Hardeman County, TN.
III.3.13.1.5. IDA FRANCES CADDELL. d. 10 Jan 1911, Hardeman Co., TN
IDA FRANCES CADDELL, daughter of Bryant and Sadie (Sullivan) CADDELL,
was born (4 Nov 1837) and probably raised in Hardeman County, TN. She
never married.
The following is from an unknown source:
Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in
May and were still smelling pretty good by June. However, they were
starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the
b.o.
Baths equaled a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the
house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons
and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the
babies. By that time, the water was so dirty you could actually lose
someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath
water".
Houses had thatched roofs. Thick straw, piled high, with no wood
underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the
pets...dogs, cats and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs lived in the
roof. When it rained, it became slippery and sometimes the animals would
slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and
dogs,"
There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed
a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could
really mess up your nice clean bed. So, they made beds with big posts
and hung a sheet over the top, it addressed that problem. Hence those
beautiful big 4 poster beds with canopies.
The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt,
hence the saying "dirt poor".
The wealthy had slate floors which would get slippery in the winter when
wet. So they spread thresh on the floor to help keep their footing. As
the winter wore on, they kept adding more thresh until when you opened
the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was
placed at the entry way, hence a "thresh hold".
They cooked in the kitchen in a big kettle that always hung over the
fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They
mostly ate vegetables and didn't get much meat. They would eat the stew
for dinner leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then
start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had
been in there for a month. Hence the rhyme: "peas porridge hot, peas
porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old."
Sometimes they could obtain pork and would feel really special when that
happened. When company came over, they would bring out some bacon and
hang it to show it off. It was a sign of wealth and that a man "could
really bring home the bacon."
They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit
around and "chew the fat."
Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with a high acid
content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food. This happened
most often with tomatoes, so they stopped eating tomatoes...for 400
years.
Most people didn't have pewter plates, but had trenchers - a piece of
wood with the middle scooped out like a bowl. Trenchers were never
washed and a lot of times worms got into the wood. After eating off
wormy trenchers, they were said to get "trench mouth."
Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of
the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the
"upper crust".
Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would
sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the
road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were
laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would
gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.
Hence the custom of holding a "wake".
England is old and small and they started running out of places to bury
people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take their bones to a
house and re-use the grave. In reopening these coffins, one out of 25
coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized
they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a
string on their wrist and lead it through the coffin and up through the
ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the
graveyard all night to listen for the bell. Hence on the "graveyard
shift" they would know that someone was "saved by the bell"
or he was a "dead ringer".
About Septs......
A good example is my own surname...CADDELL. It is a sept of the Clan
Campbell of CAWDOR. Others include were CALDER and CATTELL. The origin
of this branch of the Clan Campbell occurred during the early 1500s in
Nairnshire, SCT. Sir John Campbell, son of the Earl of Argyll married
Muriel CALDER in about 1510. In early records, CADDELL was synonymous
with CALDER. CADDELL/CADELL/CADDEL was generally the form used in the
Aberdeen, Perth, Glasgow and Edinburgh areas. The earliest record I have
was during the 1050s where a Hugh de CADELLA (a French Knight) was the
apparent progenitor of the family. Martin Coventry in his "Castles of
Scotland" stated that the CADELLA name was changed by the current Thane
to CALDER during the 1200s. As an end result, the powerful Clan Campbell
established the CAWDOR branch with CADDELL and CALDER being considered
septs.
Bill Caddell
============================================================
> > Judy wrote here........
> >
> > please forgive my stupidity, but I am learning about my
> > > heritage and I need to know what a sept is. Please do not laugh at me.
> > > But then again a good chuckle is worth while.
> >
> > No- one should laugh. The term has no clear standing in law, and as our
> > language is a "living" structure, usage needs to be the Authority on
> > this word I guess.
> >
> > A Sept is an approved surname group that has close relationship to an
> > established Clan. Historically these were typically resident in the same
> > neighbourhood as the Clan and the spirit of good neighbourship, and
> > alliances in battle could lead to the Clan Chief adopting the minor
> > family, to mutual advantage. I guess many of these mergers, followed
> > marriage between important folk from the two social/ family groups.
> >
> > Because single surname groups, not necessarily related, might live far
> > apart it could happen that two or more different Clans would merge with
> > large families, leading to the condition where one surname is shown as a
> > Sept of two or more Clans. These mysteries are best solved by tracing
> > the real ancestral line of the "sept" ancestor to see where his
> > progenitors lived. Like, what large Clan was the power in that
> > neighbourhood.
> >
> > Nothing come easy in heraldry. An interesting case is that of Clan
> > Macfie, a Clan in their own right and not a sept. Resident in Lochaber,
> > they were close- knit with Clan Cameron, and their tartan is quite hard
> > to distinguish from the Cameron Clan tartan. In battle they would
> > probably be mistaken for Camerons. Because of close friendship between
> > the two Clans (a Macfie soldier recovered and carried the banner of our
> > Cameron Chief at Culloden, when Lochiel fell wounded) the Macfie clan is
> > permitted to wear the Cameron of Erracht tartan at any time. And in a
> > Sydney Highland parade some years back, the Macfie marchers, weary of
> > being placed near the end of the march with all the nondescript MACs
> > exercised their right to march up front with the Camerons :~)
> >
> > Cheers..........
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> >
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I have really enjoyed the chatter and the jokes but really wanted to be
a passive member. I realise that it is only fair that you should have
some info on me and my family so-o-o here goes. I was borned in Stearns,
Ky 1 Apr. 1937. Joined the navy in 1954 and retired from the navy in
1980. I married Joyce on the 3rd of sept. 1960. We settled here in
washington, we live approximately 70 miles north of Seattle. I still
love the south but can't handle the humidy. Oh yes I retired fron NC
caterpillar dealership in '96. Fish alot and spend as much time as I can
with the grandkids. We had 2 girls and 1 boy. all are married. Each girl
has 2 kids. The boy is in the navy and his wife is expecting in sept. He
works at NSA in maryland. By george, I think I've got everybody and
everything covered. Nope, I'm a deacon at Calvary Baptist Church here in
Burlington,Wa. May God bless. glenn
I recently received the following from a researcher on the Alabama List:
Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1820
Caddell, Nancy State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Year : 1820
Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1830
Caddell, Benjamin State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Year : 1830
Page # : 165
Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1840
Caddell, Andrew, Jr. State : AL
County : St. Clair Co.
Year : 1840
Page # : 233
Caddell, James State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Year : 1840
Page # : 116
Caddell, Jane State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Year : 1840
Page # : 124
Caddell, John State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Year : 1840
Page # : 104
Caddell, John State : AL
County : St. Clair Co.
Year : 1840
Page # : 233
Caddell, William State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Year : 1840
Page # : 129
Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1850
Caddell, Andrew State : AL
County : Tuscaloosa Co.
Location : District 2
Year : 1850
Page # : 202
Caddell, Baz State : AL
County : Cherokee Co.
Location : District 27
Year : 1850
Page # : 103
Caddell, James State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Location : W. C. River
Year : 1850
Page # : 016
Caddell, S. State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Location : W. C. River
Year : 1850
Page # : 651
Census type code : Slave Schedule
Caddell, S. State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Location : W. C. River
Year : 1850
Page # : 653
Census type code : Slave Schedule
Caddell, Thomas State : AL
County : Cherokee Co.
Location : District 27
Year : 1850
Page # : 141
Census Index: U.S. Selected States/Counties, 1860
Caddell, Andrew H. State : AL
County : Marion Co.
Location : Astons Store
Year : 1860
Page # : 620
Caddell, B. W. State : AL
County : Perry Co.
Location : Jerico Beat
Year : 1860
Page # : 562
Caddell, Isaac State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Location : West Side Cahaba River
Year : 1860
Page # : 705
Caddell, Jaems State : AL
County : Perry Co.
Location : Jerico Beat
Year : 1860
Page # : 562
Caddell, Jaems State : AL
County : Perry Co.
Location : Jerico Beat
Year : 1860
Page # : 749
Caddell, John State : AL
County : Cherokee Co.
Location : 1st Division
Year : 1860
Page # : 376
Caddell, Lewis C. State : AL
County : Cherokee Co.
Location : 1st District
Year : 1860
Page # : 377
Census type code : Slave Schedule
Caddell, Lewis G. State : AL
County : Cherokee Co.
Location : 1st Division
Year : 1860
Page # : 256
Caddell, Mohorsal State : AL
County : Cherokee Co.
Location : 1st Division
Year : 1860
Page # : 212
Caddell, Susan State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Year : 1860
Page # : 195
Census type code : Slave Schedule
Caddell, Susan State : AL
County : Bibb Co.
Location : West Side Cahaba River
Year : 1860
Page # : 716
Caddell, Susan State : AL
County : Cherokee Co.
Location : 1st District
Year : 1860
Page # : 373
Census type code : Slave Schedule
Caddell, Susan State : AL
County : Cherokee Co.
Location : 1st Division
Year : 1860
Page # : 213
Caddell, Thomas State : AL
County : Cherokee Co.
Location : 1st District
Year : 1860
Page # : 377
Census type code : Slave Schedule
Caddell, Thomas State : AL
County : Cherokee Co.
Location : 1st Division
Year : 1860
Page # : 257
Caddell, Thomas State : AL
County : Marion Co.
Location : Astons Store
Year : 1860
Page # : 621
Caddell, W. J. State : AL
County : Perry Co.
Location : Jerico Beat
Year : 1860
Page # : 562
Census Index: U.S. Selected States/Counties, 1870
Caddell, Amanda State : AL
County : Etowah Co.
Location : Attalla P.O.
Year : 1870
Page # : 319
Caddell, Andrew State : AL
County : Etowah Co.
Location : Attalla P.O.
Year : 1870
Page # : 320
Caddell, Clem State : AL
County : Etowah Co.
Location : Attalla P.O.
Year : 1870
Page # : 305
Caddell, L. G. State : AL
County : Etowah Co.
Location : Attalla P.O.
Year : 1870
Page # : 347
Caddell, Mary State : AL
County : Etowah Co.
Location : Attalla P.O.
Year : 1870
Page # : 340
Caddell, W. R. State : AL
County : Etowah Co.
Location : Attalla P.O.
Year : 1870
Page # : 341
Marriage Index: Alabama, 1800-1900
Caddal, Dorcas Spouse : Donnel, William
Marriage date : Sep 25, 1849
County : Benton
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1035493 - 1035496
Caddel, Elizabeth Spouse : Hall, Elijah
Marriage date : Nov 15, 1821
County : St. Clair
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1035441 - 1035445
Caddel, Sally Spouse : Sanders, Ardin
Marriage date : Sep 14, 1834
County : St. Clair
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1035441 - 1035445
Caddell, Andrew Spouse : Burchfield, Mary
Marriage date : Aug 22, 1837
County : St. Clair
Gender : Male
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1035441 - 1035445
Caddell, Benjamine W. Spouse : Pierson, Martha E.
Marriage date : Mar 2, 1854
County : Bibb
Gender : Male
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, Elizabeth Spouse : Barrett, Walter
Marriage date : Sep 2, 1830
County : Bibb
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, Isaac J. Spouse : Stacy, Tabitha Ann
Marriage date : Aug 25, 1853
County : Bibb
Gender : Male
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, James Spouse : Dodson, Nancy
Marriage date : Jan 3, 1830
County : Bibb
Gender : Male
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, John Spouse : Suttle, Sarah
Marriage date : Feb 25, 1830
County : Bibb
Gender : Male
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, Leanah Spouse : Hancock, Marion
Marriage date : Jan 9, 1852
County : Tuscaloosa
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1290745 - 1290749
Caddell, Leanah Spouse : Hancock, Marion
Marriage date : Jan 11, 1852
County : Tuscaloosa
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1290745 - 1290749
Caddell, Lidda Margaret Spouse : Garner, Joseph
Marriage date : Oct 30, 1831
County : St. Clair
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1035441 - 1035445
Caddell, Lurany Spouse : Suttle, Isaac, Jr.
Marriage date : Aug 5, 1826
County : Bibb
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, Martha Spouse : Moody, Benjamin
Marriage date : Dec 4, 1829
County : Jefferson
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1738566 - 1738579 & 1065075 - 1065082
Caddell, Mary Spouse : Wade, Edmond B.
Marriage date : Sep 14, 1826
County : Bibb
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, Nancy Spouse : Griffin, Robert W.
Marriage date : Feb 18, 1822
County : Bibb
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, Susannah Spouse : Paul, William
Marriage date : Sep 14, 1825
County : St. Clair
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1035441 - 1035445
Caddell, William Spouse : Davis, Susan
Marriage date : Dec 23, 1824
County : Bibb
Gender : Male
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, William J. Spouse : Shuttlesworth, Mary J.
Marriage date : Jul 17, 1858
County : Bibb
Gender : Male
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, William J. Spouse : Shuttlesworth, Mary J.
Marriage date : Jul 18, 1858
County : Bibb
Gender : Male
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Caddell, Williams Spouse : Davis, Susan
Marriage date : Dec 23, 1824
County : Bibb
Gender : Male
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031250 - 1031254 & 1031262 - 1031264
Cadell, Jennie Spouse : Jones, J. R.
Marriage date : Dec 8, 1898
County : Marion
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1031103 - 1031104
Cadell, Necy Spouse : Webb, Jessee T.
Marriage date : Aug 18, 1831
County : Tuscaloosa
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1290745 - 1290749
Cadell, Nicy Spouse : Webb, Jessee T.
Marriage date : Aug 18, 1831
County : Tuscaloosa
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1290745 - 1290749
Cadwell, Lucy Ann Spouse : Birch, Sampson
Marriage date : Apr 7, 1846
County : Tuscaloosa
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1290745 - 1290749
Cadwell, Sarena Spouse : Rickels, James
Marriage date : Apr 18, 1844
County : St. Clair
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1035441 - 1035445
Cadwell, Susan Spouse : Asbell, Christopher
Marriage date : Dec 27, 1829
County : St. Clair
Gender : Female
Source : County Court Records
Microfilm Number : 1035441 - 1035445
The history and development of Muthill:
Whilst the correct pronunciation is "Mewthill," strangers
understandably say "Mutt-hill" which gave rise to the dubious
explanation of the ancestry of the name Moot Hill ("hill of meeting").
This Anglo-Saxon lineage is hotly disputed by Gaelic speakers who insist
that the name was originally "Meaothail" -("soft place"). "Meeting
place" or "soft place," this settlement on a major route north has seen
and suffered countless military incursions; from the Romans in the 1st
century to the Jacobites in the 18th.
Muthill lies just a few miles west of the line of outposts erected by
the forces of Julius Agricola, and the nearest fort is just three miles
away at Strageath.
THE JACOBITES: With the exception of many of the great landowners, the
residents of Crieff and Muthill seemed quite unequivocal in their
hatred of the Jacobite cause; the Jacobites were the followers of the
Stuart royal dynasty, which included Bonnie Prince Charlie, and both
communities were to pay dearly for their allegiance to the House of
Hanover. After the pro-Jacobite Earl of Mar's uprising in 1715, which
the area refused to support, swift retribution was taken against
Muthill. In mid-January 1716 it and many local villages and towns were
burned to the ground, supposedly on the orders of the Pretender (James
Francis Edward Stuart - father of Bonnie Prince Charlie).
Another well known resident at one time was Thomas Caddell, the famous
pistol maker of Doune, a small village a few miles distance from
Dunblane. Caddell served his apprenticeship to a gunmaker in Muthill
who, it is suggested, worked at the armoury at nearby Drummond Castle.
Around 1648 Caddell moved to Doune and commenced manufacturing pistols
with an all metal stock which became the hallmark of the true Scottish
pistol, highly sought after by today's weapon collectors. On the
northern edge of Muthill lies an attractive playpark and picnic area. On
the other side of the road is the Bowling Green and Muthill's nine hole
Golf Course. From both of these there are magnificent panoramic views
across the strath, from the Grampians in the north to the Ochil Hills in
the south.
Hey, gang, I recently found this in a history section on the internet:
"The use of surnames seems to have commenced in France about the year
1000, and surnames were introduced into Scotland through the Normans a
little over one hundred years later, although the custom of using them
was hardly common. The first official reference to the practice is from
a general council held at Forfar in 1061, during the reign of Malcolm
Ceannmor (1057- 1093). Malcolm directed his chief subjects to create
surnames from the names of their territorial possessions.
Thus, the first people in Scotland to acquire fixed surnames were the
nobles and great landowners, who called themselves, or were called by
others, after the lands they possessed. The form of the names was Norman
"de"; for instance, Robert de Brus (Brus in Normandy), John de Balliol
(Balleul-en-Vimeu in Picard), William de Buchan (Buchan in Scotland),
Christopher de Seton (Sayton in Scotland), William de Kirkhaugh
(Kirkhaugh in Northumberland, my family), etc.
The first surnames were place-names and originated with a man who lived
in or came from a place, sometimes a big district like Moray (Murray) or
Lothian, often a small rural community. A proprietor was particularly
likely to take his name from his estate, but tenants also often took
their names from the estate where they lived. Clearly many individuals,
and ultimately of families, could originate in the same place, and take
their names from it, without being related to each other. Besides, the
same or similar names were given to different places, and so individuals
or families who came from different parts of the country, and shared
neither blood nor territorial affinity, could nevertheless have the same
surname. Thus, anyone called Calder (or its variant, Caddell) may derive
from an ancestor resident in Calder in West Lothian, Calder (or Cadder)
in Lanarkshire, Calder (or Cawdor) in Nairnshire, or Calder in
Caithness."