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It seems to very quite on this list at present.
If you are searching for any Boyd family – anywhere in the World – it will greatly help if you post a query, so other Boyds on this list can see what you are searching for in terms of Clan Boyd.
While, I would have the name BOYD on my PC about 300,000 or 400,000 time, it would be LESS THAN 1% of the total Boyd names in history.
According to King George II, the name was first used in 1111 A. D. and spans some 28 or 29 generations. And it stems form Norman parents.
There is no known number of Boyds in the World that anyone has yet found.
If each member of the Clan only had 2 children, there would be over 128 million Boyd or Boyd descendants in the World today. The Head of the Clan averaged 4.6 children over that 28 generation period and in the six or so generations it is only known to have one child who succeeded his father. So based on that family, this estimate could be several time larger, given it was quite common for Boyd families of 10 or more to be found.
So if you have a brick wall that you can’t climb over tell the list. If you are trying to find the parents of your first known Boyd, tell the list. And if you are trying to find data on missing siblings in your own Boyd pyramid, tell the list as to what you have found and where and ask for help to find sources or where they may have migrated from your known location.
Boyd List members
This website may be useful for those Boyd researching early New York State.
I have not looked at it, to see if any French Huguenot Boyds or Dutch Boyds
may have attended this church in the 1600's and early 1700's.
In the late 1700's, a number of Boyds seemed to have married in the Dutch
Reform Church/es. When this was brought up previously, it was thought
because that was the nearest Church for that Boyd family.
While we know that one Boyd family from LeRochelle, France came to
Charlestown, South Carolina in 1682, but we have yet to find out if any
escaped to Holland and then went to New York City in the later 1600's.
Historical Committee, HBS
From: MizScarlettNY via NYWESTCH
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 1:28 AM
Cc: mikejboyd(a)bigpond.com ; NYC-ROOTS(a)rootsweb.com ; MizScarlettNY
Subject: [NYWESTCH] French Church: 111 E. 60th St New York City
I did not receive these original posts. Since Manhattan is my area of
expertise, I remembered that this church still exists.
Aren't you lucky?
FRENCH CHURCH DU SAINT-ESPRIT
111 E 60th Street #3F
New York, NY, 10022
Email Form: http://stesprit.org/contact-us/
Bill, if you need further help, please contact me offlist.
Barb in NY
From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd(a)bigpond.com>
Was this Church a French Huguenot church in 1694?
If so, you may need to contact the Huguenot Society in the USA. I am not
sure if there is an office in South Carolina some where. But by asking
google you should get an US contact
From: Bill Forshay billforshay(a)yahoo.com,
Jeff I'm trying to find records on my 8th Great grandmother. She died 22
Oct 1694 and was buried at 111 E. 60th St., New York City which was the
French Church of St. Esprit at that time. Do you know where the records or
the cemetery would be? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Jeff Rosen via NYWESTCH wrote:
By the 1870s, it was a lodging house called Rolff’s hotel. For a picture
and some additional history:
My research into my Boyd family from Chester and Washington Counties, PA led me to Guernsey County, Ohio. I discovered the following Boyd family. I don't believe they are connected to mine, but I thought I would share this information in case it might help someone as it took me some time to put the family together, and it appears not to be previously documented.
The following Henry BOYD family lived in Wills Township, Guernsey County, Ohio beginning as early as 1830. The patriarch, Henry Boyd first appears in the 1830 census in Wills Twp but dies prior to 1840. I cannot find any probate information for him.
BOYD, Henry - born 1790-1800 maybe in MD, VA, or OH, died before 1840
wife - Susanna Eskins/Askins - born ~1804 VA, died about 1875 in Guernsey Cty, OH
1) John Boyd - born 4/25/1826 OH, died 3/1/1911 Guernsey Cty, OH, married Cynthia Ann KIrkpatrick
2) Jacob Boyd - born 1829 OH
3) Elizabeth Ann Boyd - born 1831 OH, died 4/27/1901 Guernsey Cty, OH, married Burris William Moore who is the son of John Moore and Catherine Parker
4) Sarah Ann Boyd - born 1834 OH, married David Steele
5) William Walter Boyd - born 1840 OH (may have served in the Civil War, Ohio 16th Regiment Infintry, Company F)
Apparently, something is killing the link to the Pa Land Office. Maybe I'm breaking some protocol on this list? I do not know.
Try it this way: You will have to put the www's in front. It's phmc.state.pa.us
When this opens, scroll down and click "land records". Then scroll down and click "maps". Then find and click "original surveys". (copied surveys) Then you can spend the next two years roaming around the old warrant registers and survey maps. See my previous message for instructions. Or read them on the website. You can find entire township maps with all the land owners shown. Like Sadsbury or Lancaster or many others. Good luck. It requires a lot of patience. Edwin
I posted this back in 2013 and I noticed the link to the Land Office was dead. I will try again. I hope the link works. Maybe Rick Wilson can find his Boyds in Chester or Washington counties.
PA State Archives - RG-17 - Copied Survey Images - Main Interface
PA State Archives - RG-17 - Copied Survey Images - Main Interface
It takes a little practice to navigate these pages. If all else fails, read thedirections. Start with the warrant registers. If you are lucky, you may find your targetBoyd. Scroll to the far right and you will see a volume, book, and page number. Write thisnumber down. That number will lead you to a survey map. Then go back to the home page andclick on "Copied Survey Books". Find your volume, A, B. C, etc. Then find yourbook number, then the page number. The survey map should pop up. These little maps areamazing. They will show you who the adjoining neighbors were. You may see somehandwritten numerals that refer to the next adjoing parcel over--something like A18-120,whatever. That way you can keep expanding the area around your target. However, there isno rhyme or reason in "when" the adjoining parcel may be. When you check thenext tract over, it may jump 20 years later in time. It take some getting used to. Ifyou can't find your Boyd in the warrant registers, don't be surprised. Some of ourUlster-Scots cared very little for filing the required paperwork for warrants and such. They usually just kept moving further out in the boonies until they found unoccupied landthey liked or land near relatives and then squatted thereon and built their cabins andplanted their crops. The Penn heirs realized this but they wanted people to settle on thefrontier. Eventually, the powers that be showed up, sometimes ten years after the factand most of the settlers complied and paid their quit rents and received their legalwarrants and titles. If you can't find your target in the warrant registers, trysearching by township, like Lurgan, or Drumore, or Octoraro, etc. Or look for knownassociates to your kin. You may find a map that shows your kin adjoining. Good luck. Edwin Reply
In a David Dobson book, that appear to be title “Scottish Emigrations to the U. S. A.” page 32 it says
“BOYD, Robert. To American colonies before 1730. Son Robert, 1734 – 1804 (C. A. G., i 49)
1. Does anyone know what this (C. A. G., i 49) source is?
2. And secondly has anyone read this page and the pages around it, to see what location they are talking about.
This entry seems to be talking about an Robert Boyd who was born about 1703 in the Ards Peninsula and his son Robert who is cited by his church in Orange County, NY to have been born in Ballyhalbert, Ards Peninsular in 1734. Both Robert’s are then though to have come on a ship in 1756 to New York City and in 1757 had land left to the father Robert form his brother Samuel Boyd who died in NYC in 1757 and left a will.
But as far as the family knows today, the father Robert never left to go to America until 1756.
Do does anyone know whom this “Robert Boyd – to the American colonies before 1730” might be?
MY GUESS is that he is a third Robert Boyd that by 1730 could be one of several dozen Robert Boyds in about 8 or so US States/colonies. It would be good to find out to whom Dobson is referring to?
Thank you for helping to sort out this puzzle.
Historical Committee, HBS
I noticed yesterday when I turned on my PC there was a 32 page issue of Dean Road was out.
From a very quick glace, as I was searching for when some Boyd tents were on, I noticed a number of great articles and stories, but hopefully in the next few days I can some free time to read it carefully. So I hope members find these stories of interest.
If you are a member and have not received your copy you will need to contact editor Kevin (Email editor(a)clanboyd.org) to ask for your copy.
Some weeks ago, I sent him 34 articles, including three on the origins of the Boyd being Norman and not Gaelic. So I hope to see those published shortly for members benefit.
Members need to send in their own history stories, family queries, and other items of what grandma cooked or grandpa did, so that our Boyd history is built up.
From: Mike Boyd
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [BOYD] 18th Century Marriages in Ulster Ireland - PROBLEM WITH
When I clicked on "reply" all, the address came up a "BOYD(a)ROOTSWEB.COM"
But when I have just hit "reply", it has come up with "A mailing list for
the discussion and sharing of information regarding the Boyd surname and
variations in any place and at any time. The oldest Boyd discussion list
online. Rootsweb archives of this list begin 12 July 1997. The discussion
began in the early 1990s and some of the older messages will be found
reposted to this archive.<boyd(a)rootsweb.com>;"
In recent weeks "boyd(a)rootsweb.com" has not been included in this address at
So just be careful when your reply - to actually see what is in the "box"
for the address. This may explain why there has been a reduced level of
Emails in the last few months
From: Edwin "Tex" Irvin via BOYD
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:56 AM
Cc: Edwin "Tex" Irvin
Subject: [BOYD] 18th Century Marriages in Ulster Ireland
Thanks, Mike. I have pretty well covered my Irvines and Boyds in both
Cumberland county, Pa and Virginia. I am reasonably certain my kin are not
related to the John Boyd/Nancy Urie bunch. Nor are they connected to the
Irvines or the Boyds in Halifax county, Virginia. But, back to Northern
Ireland. That is where I need help. Presbyterian marriages are extremely
hard to find in 18th century Ulster. This is due to the various Penal Laws
and persecutions of those "dissenters" who did not adhere to the Church of
Ireland faith. (Anglicans). The Presbyterians were usually lumped in with
the Catholics and were persecuted severely by the State. Often their
marriages were not officially recognized, their children were sometimes
branded as bastards, they couldn't vote or hold public office and then their
rents were doubled or tripled. These persecutions were the impetus for many
of the dissenters to pack up and leave for the Colonies. So, where can we
find 18th century marriages? Most of them probably do not exist. Some of
the Presbyterians simply married under the auspices of the Church of
Ireland. This was painful but they already were forced to tithe to support
the Anglican Church. I am unable to find or afford the research required in
Ireland or Proni or the individual parish records. So I am hoping that
someone on this list has access to these records in Ireland and can find the
marriage of my John Irvine and Margaret Boyd prior to 1740. However, there
is also the possibility that they were married in Scotland. In calm seas, it
was no great task to make the crossing in a small boat. Hell, athletes even
swim across it in a few hours. So, where do we look for marriages in
Scotland? I am at a loss. I know I need a county or parish or township to
narrow the search. But I have no clue. It has been my greatest frustration
for years. I think most American researchers share the same problem. How do
we make the leap from America to a specific county in the old country? It is
a struggle. Edwin
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Thanks, Mike. I have pretty well covered my Irvines and Boyds in both Cumberland county, Pa and Virginia. I am reasonably certain my kin are not related to the John Boyd/Nancy Urie bunch. Nor are they connected to the Irvines or the Boyds in Halifax county, Virginia. But, back to Northern Ireland. That is where I need help. Presbyterian marriages are extremely hard to find in 18th century Ulster. This is due to the various Penal Laws and persecutions of those "dissenters" who did not adhere to the Church of Ireland faith. (Anglicans). The Presbyterians were usually lumped in with the Catholics and were persecuted severely by the State. Often their marriages were not officially recognized, their children were sometimes branded as bastards, they couldn't vote or hold public office and then their rents were doubled or tripled. These persecutions were the impetus for many of the dissenters to pack up and leave for the Colonies. So, where can we find 18th century marriages? Most of them probably do not exist. Some of the Presbyterians simply married under the auspices of the Church of Ireland. This was painful but they already were forced to tithe to support the Anglican Church. I am unable to find or afford the research required in Ireland or Proni or the individual parish records. So I am hoping that someone on this list has access to these records in Ireland and can find the marriage of my John Irvine and Margaret Boyd prior to 1740. However, there is also the possibility that they were married in Scotland. In calm seas, it was no great task to make the crossing in a small boat. Hell, athletes even swim across it in a few hours. So, where do we look for marriages in Scotland? I am at a loss. I know I need a county or parish or township to narrow the search. But I have no clue. It has been my greatest frustration for years. I think most American researchers share the same problem. How do we make the leap from America to a specific county in the old country? It is a struggle. Edwin
Does anyone know if the weaver profession was common for certain Boyd families? I have two William Boyds of interest, of which tax records indicate they were two different individuals and they were both weavers. One lived in East Nottingham and New London Townships in Chester County, PA (my ancetor) and the other in Upper Makefield Township in Bucks County, PA. The time frame was 1800-1820 (possible relative). I do not yet know the country of origin for my Boyd ancestor, but suspect it is likely Northern Ireland based on some other families that lived nearby in Chester County, PA.
Another interesting (or not) fact that I have discovered is that my William Boyd ancestor in Chester County, PA owned a dog. I'm not sure how common it was back then to own a dog, especially for a family that could not even pay to have their chidren educated (the county had to cover the cost of their children's education).
This is my great grandfather. I just locatd his death notice in the
newspaper a few minutes ago. I still have no information on where he was
buried, or what happened with his remains. I also have not located any
immigration records that I can tie to him. He may have had the middle name
"Young", as his eldest son, my grand uncle, listed it on his Social
The San Francisco call., March 30, 1897, Page 7, Image 7
John Boyd, according to the Coroner's jury's
verdict yesterday, committed suicide by shoot
mi; himself in the heart on March 18.
The San Francisco call. (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, March 19, 1897,
NOW OUT OF TROUBLE.
John Boyd, a Dt-spmidpnt Ironmolder,
Ends His Life With a Bullet.
John Boyd, a despondent ironmolder living at 415 Third avenue, ended his
life early yesterday morning by sending a bullet' through his , heart while
lying in bed. Despondency was the cause. During the iron molders strike
Boyd was an active member or the union and was in consequence out of work
for a long time. ., After he did secure employment he was so unfortunate
as to injure his hand and blood-poisoning set in. Every effort was made to
save the arm, but to no effect, for amputation was necessary.
Since then Boyd's boy, now 14 years of age, has been the sole support of
his mother and father. This state of affairs caused Boyd to become
thoroughly disheartened and he committed suicide. Deceased was 36 years of
age and a native of Scotland.
The San Francisco call. (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, March 20, 1897,
BOYD— In this city. March 18. 1897. John Boyd,
a native of Scotland. aged 36 years.
Thanks, Mike. This list has gone quiet here lately. I think some of it is due to the disruptions we had with Ancestry a while back. I could not view the boards or lists for a couple of months and it took a while to find my way back. I had to change my password and it still was hit or miss. Ancestry has apparently changed the format and I am still fumbling around trying to relearn the process. I am a tech dinosaur and I hate change. Ha. Anyway, I have several brick walls but I will stick to the one that most concerns the Boyds. My 5th great grandfather, Christopher Irvin, was raised by his uncle, John Irvin, in the 1760's, in Hat Creek, Virginia, just above present day Brookneal. Hat Creek John Irvin/Irvine was married to a Margaret (Molly) Boyd sometime prior to about 1740, most probably somewhere in Northern Ireland. They were die hard Presbyterians and probably came to Pennsylvania around 1740. Maybe earlier. I have some circumstantial evidence that suggests Margaret Boyd's father was named Robert. Hat Creek John and Margaret spent roughly 20 years in Pennsylvania, near old Shippensburg, before moving to Virginia. I have searched long and hard for years for a record of John and Margaret's marriage in Ireland. However, It is quite possible they were married in Scotland. I do not know. If one of our Irish cousins could find this marriage record, I would be eternally grateful. It would help me finally make the leap to a specific county in Ireland. Edwin Irvin
For the last few weeks – or even more – this list has been very quite. Have all those that are on this list found all the details they wish to find for their Boyd family?
If not, post to this list what you are looking for as someone will have had the same problem previously to you and hopefully can point you in the write direction.
You can post your earliest known Boyd, with known spouse, and children and where they lived to see if anyone on the list link it to their family.
You can post your direct Boyd tree form yourself back as far as you can go to see if you can find some cousins.
Or you can post some specific section of your family pyramid to fill in the blank data that you may have on an individual to see if any member can help you find that data.
And if you are in contact with any Boyd researchers, suggest that they should join this list to advertise their Boyd family research, etc
Historical Committee, HBS
Who is Culbert Boyd in the 1630 Muster Roll in County Down in THE LORD BISHOP OF DOWN (ROBERT ECHLIN) HIS TENANT'S & MR PATRICK SAVAGE & MR ROWLAND SAVAGE: THEIR TENANTS, THEIR NAMES AND ARMS
In the 1630 Muster Roll for County Down listed under THE LORD BISHOP OF DOWN (ROBERT ECHLIN) HIS TENANT'S & MR PATRICK SAVAGE & MR ROWLAND SAVAGE: THEIR TENANTS, THEIR NAMES AND ARMS is -
“Sword and Musket
No. 56. Alexander Stewart
Sword and Snaphance (Snaphance is a type of gun)
No. 57. Culbert Boyd”
This land is on the Ards Peninsula in County Down and likely to be the area from Kircubbin to Portabferry. Unfortunately, it does not list the townland that this Culbert Boyd was living on to identify his family or what Boyd Branch he might come from.
This is the first time that I have seen the name Culbert Boyd occur and the name does not seem to occur in the International Genealogical Index either, certainly not in the 1994 IGI for the UK. So, this is an unusual Boyd name.
While having a “Sword and Snaphance” may suggest that this Culbert Boyd had some wealth. So, does this mean that he has “leased” land from Robert Echlin, the Lord Bishop of Down?
Mike Boyd would estimate that this Culbert Boyd was born prior to 1600, most likely in Scotland. He could come form the same part of Scotland that Robert Echlin came from in Scotland – where ever that might be.
I have not come across any will for this Culbert Boyd at PRONI, nor is he listed in any of the known grave inscriptions that are available for the Ards Peninsula. So that does not help to determine where he was located.
There was a Gawin Boyd of Rureagh (Rowreagh), which is a few kms SE of Kircubbin, who died on 23 March 1692 and left a will. The will was proved 30th October 1693. He left to his underage, unnamed, children and to his widow Marion Boyd. PRONI Ref T/403 p.8; D/1759/3B/1 p.9. But until we can find out where Culbert Boyd was living, it is hard to determine if there is any relationship between Gawin and Culbert Boyd. On the present evidence this Culbert Boyd would “appear” to be either one or two generations before Gawin Boyd, but no other linkage can be made at this time.
This Alexander Stewart might be the same person that married a daughter of the Boyds of Glastry, but additional evidence will be required to prove this?
If you stem from this Culbert Boyd of 1630 in either County Down or in Scotland, I would like to hear from you please
Historical Committee, HBS
The New England Historical and Genealogical Society have adverted this
Do any Boyd come form this period?
"American Ancestors is granting FREE access to all online
databases—including the recently released Mayflower Families Fifth
Generation Descendants, 1700-1880—from now through Tuesday, July 17th."
Although you do need to register as a guest, no charge card is required.
I've found many NYC records on this site as well as excellent access to SSDI
According to An Historical Account of the Plantation in Ulster at the Commencement of the Seventeenth Century, 1608-1620, George Hill, 1877, pages 529-530, Sir Thomas Boyd, of Bedlay, (second son of the 6th Lord Boyd, Thomas Boyd), listed these lands in County Tyrone as –
“CXXV. 1,500 Acres
Sir Thomas Boyd (226) was the first Patentee. The Earl of Abercorn hath 1,500 acres, called Shean. Upon this there is a large Bawne of Lime and Stone, 80 feet square, with four Flankers but as yet is not thoroughly finished. There is a large strong Castle begun, and they tell me it shall be finished this summer. I find planted and estated upon this land, of British Tenants, 
Freeholders , 3, viz,
3 having 120 acres le piece.
Lessees for years, 10 viz,
2 having 240 acres.
2 having 120 acres le piece.
4 having 60 acres le piece.
2 having 30 acres le piece.
In toto 13 families, who, with their undertenants, are able to make 100 armed men.”
Unfortunately Rev Hill does not list who were the people that took up these 13 lots of land under Sir Thomas Boyd in 1610 and held them after 1613, when Sir Thomas sold his Estate at Shean to brother-in-law, James Hamilton, Earl of Abercorn.
You would expect that “some” of these 13 land holdings to have been Boyd families, but no one seems to know how many. Nor does anyone know, from where these Boyd families might have come from in Scotland. Sir Thomas Boyd came from East Dunbartonshire. So some of these Boyds may have come form there through Falkirk and even towards Edinburgh. Or they may have come from Ayrshire, Lanarkshire or Renfrewshire just as easily.
However, it is known that there were plenty of Boyds in both East and West Tyrone. Suggesting that Sir Thomas Boyd’s migration was not the only migration of Boyds to County Tyrone during the Ulster Plantation of 1610, or even later.
So does your Boyd family come form County Tyrone? If so, please tell the list.
Historical Committee, HBS
I have been away for three days, but I was surprised that none of our US cousins had mentioned how they celebrated their 4th of July? Or was the party so good that you are still getting over it. Did you have family over or did you just have a BBQ and no talk of family.
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