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The known family of Robert Boyd and Sarah Hunter (nee Lyon) of Middletown, Orange County, NY.
In his book, History of the Boyd family and descendants, with historical sketches of the ancient family of Boyd's in Scotland from the year 1200, and those of Ireland from the year 1680, with records of their descendants in Kent, New Windsor, Middletown and Salem, N. Y., Boston, Mass., Northumberland County, Pa., and sketches of those from the southern and western states from 1740 to 1912. By William P. Boyd ... Rochester, N. Y., John P. Smith printing company, 1912, pp 337-354, provides and outline of this family
It is not known when and where this Robert Boyd was born. But it appears that he landed at Philadelphia, PA, and moved to Washington County, NY (north of Albany, NY). But these sources do not say when he landed in PA or when he went to Washington County, NY or what route he might have taken to get there. Nor does it tell us if he was married before coming to the USA or in NY State. It only tells us that he had a family (of unknown number) and that his wife and all his children except a daughter had died by 1776 or 1777 - said to be of dysentery. (But it might also be worth looking for any incidents with Indians in this part of NY State, as this was the starting period of the War of Independence.) This is the first time that I have heard of a family landing in PA and then moving to New York, especially upper New York.
In 1776 or 1777 he removed to Little Britain, Orange County, N. Y. where he remarried, Sarah Lyons the widow Robert Hunter in about 1778-1779.
Robert is said to have died in 1786, after seven years of marriage with Sarah.
They are known to have had two sons
However, it is not know if more than two children were born to Robert and Sarah in this period or if any daughters were born to them. So there might be one or two extra children to this family that are not yet recorded.
His known children are John Boyd born in 1779 at New Windsor, Orange County, NY, he has died in 1814 or 1815 in New York City, NY, but whom he married is unknown, and Alexander Boyd, born 10 May 1782 at Little Britain, Orange County, NY, and died on 29 December 1869 at Hamptonburgh, Orange Co., and he married in 1806 at Mount Hope, Orange Co., N. Y. to Mary Seybolt, daughter of Frederick Seybolt, of Orange Co. They appear to have lived at Hamptonburgh, N. Y.
As there is a four year gap from Alexander’s birth in 1782 and when Robert died in 1786, other children might have been born to this couple – perhaps daughters which in some Boyd families of the period were not listed – so this may explain why there are only two sons listed in this seven year period they were married.
Sarah married for her third husband Thomas Marshall of Minisink, Orange County, N. Y. and went and lived there.
Sarah’s sister, Mary Lyons married Samuel Boyd, the first or second son of James Boyd and Sarah Warnock (who died in County Down on 29 January 1754.), Samuel Boyd, who was baptised in 1734 and married Mary as his second wife in the late 177x’s – most likely at Little Britain, Orange County, NY, but that has yet to be determined. This Samuel died in 1801 and Mary in 1812 and it is said they had no children. That also seems strange for a Boyd family not to have children.
However, it is still not known if these two Boyd families had any linkage in County Down or if this Robert Boyd of Middletown, NY came from another County in Ireland. It seems that most of the Boyd families in the 1700’s that came to Pennsylvania – when their origins is known – came from County Antrim.
If you are a descendant of descendant of either John or Alexander, we would like to hear from you about your family, so others can follow your migration path.
Historical Committee, HBS
Is this an alternative Origins for the Boyds of Ballycastle, County Antrim, Ireland?
For the nearly four decades that I have been researching my own Boyd family, I have been aware from Burke’s publication that the Boyd of Ballycastle, County Antrim “claim” to stem from the Boyds of Kilmarnock, but do not show what this linkage is.
The limited details that we have for Rev William Boyd, Minister of Ramoan Parish is
Q1? William Boyd, b / /164x ( ), d / /1701? ( , Ballycastle), bu , mc / /1690 (church, town, country), Rose McNeil, dau of and (nee ) McNeil, b / /16xx ( ), d / /17xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- m 2ndly / /169x (church, etc), wife unknown, dau of and (nee ) ????, b / /167x (town, etc), d / /17xx (town, etc), bu , and had issue:-
[Lived: Drumawillen, near Ballycastle, Co Antrim, Ireland? ]
The traditional ancestors shown for Rev William Boyd is -
“This family claims descent from the noble family of Boyd of Kilmarnock. William Boyd (son of Hugh Boyd, Esq., and grandson of Thomas Boyd who purchased in 1614 Cornacogie, County Antrim) took holy orders and was vicar of Ramoan, near Ballycastle.”
[“Cornacogie” is an townland just east of Dervock.]
This information comes from A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, Sir Bernard Burke, Part 1, Fourth Edition, 1862, page 140. But I have not gone through the previous three editions of this publication to see if this information might be more detailed or not and provide more information on this family.
I am aware of two other Thomas Boyd’s listed in leases from the Earl of Antrim for land in Ballymoney area in the 1630’s period. But I do not know if there are three Thomas Boyds or a single person. (That will have to be another article for the future.)
In late 2017, I found a list of Boyds from an 1660’s list in County Antrim – for tax or some other reason, but I can’t put my hands on that paper at present – which listed a Mr ??? Boyd of Drumawillen. But his first name was not Hugh, as that is why I remember this connection.
I have just been sent some other data on this family, which made me look at the origins of this family.
So I am now thinking that Rev William Boyd ‘POSSIBLE” link to the Kilmarnock Boyds might be -
A) As a son of this 1660’s Mr Boyd of Drumawillen;
B) He might be the son of James Boyd, who died on Rathlin Island in 1665, and was the 4th child of Bishop Andrew Boyd, of Argyll. This James Boyd fled to Rathlin Island when Montrose was defeated in 1646. And I think that I have seen that he had a wife who was a Campbell, but do not have her details written down in this Family Chapter, who would have known that the Campbell Regiment when coming down as part of General Munro’s Scottish Army of 1642, stopped at Rathlin Island and killed some 4,000 McDonalds living on Rathlin Island, with only five people surviving.
C) That Bishop Andrew Boyd, was the natural son of Thomas Boyd, sixth Lord Boyd (who died in 1611). Andrew died on 21 December 1636 at Dunoon, Argyllshire – aged 71 or 80 years - and was married in about 1590 to Elizabeth Conyngham, daughter of Adam Conyngham.
So this is a possible linkage of this family to the Boyds of Kilmarnock that might also need to be considered.
In 2008 or so, I had a nice cup of tea with the late Danny Magill, who was a descendant of these Boyds of Ballycastle and was a Ballycastle local historian, and we worked out about five possible other origins for Rev William Boyd. But I did not write these down and on my next visit to Ireland, I had found that he had died. But one of those possible origins was the William Boyd of Dunluce, who died in 1626 and had seven children of which his will named six of them. We supposed that this William Boyd, MIGHT HAVE BEEN a descendant of one of the “BOYDS” – yes plural - that came to the Route in 1560 from Carrick, Ayrshire. And the only known Boyd family in Carrick were the Boyd family of Adam Boyd who was the son of Alexander Boyd, the third son of Lord Robert Boyd. This is another possible link to the Kilmarnock Boyds that “may provided” the link to Kilmarnock.
Hopefully this draft tree, with its very limited details, will allow those that have a paper trail to the Boyd of Ballycastle or even a DNA trail to them, to be able to look in this direction for a possible family connection. (And I hope that you can find more sources that I have been able to since my first visit to Ireland in 2004!)
Historical Committee, HBS
(sent to Boyd, Antrim and Ayrshire net list)
Who is this William Boyd of Portavogie, County Down in 1758?
I was recently sent this information -
“Here is a 1758 lease I found for between William Boyd of Portavogie & Jno. Mercer of Roddins for land 150 acres in Quarter Land.
Does anyone belong to this family? I am more familiar with the Boyds of Galstry which is about 4 kms NW of Portavogie and the Boyds of Rowreagh which adjoins Glastry to the west and some of the Boyds of Ballyhalbert – to the east of these two townland – but I have not come across any parts of these families that went to Portavogie.
So is this a separate Boyd family in the Ards Peninsula?
My current map of this part of County Down, on the reverse side shows the townlands, but there is no mention of any “Quarter Land” or “Quarterland”. There are some townland north of Kircubbin that have “Quarter” in their titles. So was this a “local” name used to define a section of land in or around Portavogie?
Historical Committee, HBS
It would appear form some resent Emails that I have been getting that Randy is running to be governor of Tennessee.
I meet him about 2011 in a talk I gave in western NC. He was just in the process of opening a food outlet.
It is unclear if he is running for the “Primaries” or has been selected to run for one party or the other yet.
It might be good to a see a Governor Boyd for a US State.
But I am not quite sure if he is elected that it will be cheaper for Boyds to their family tree in Tennessee or not?
So if you live i TN, you might like to report on his progress form time to time.
“Quite” a number of Boyd families moved through and also stayed in TN, so lets hear about your families please?
Is it proper to respond to you via either of these emails? Any attempts to write to you via mikejboyd(a)bigpond.com come back as undeliverable. I thought I was a member of the list, as I receive all postings to it.
From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd(a)bigpond.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 6:06 PM
To: irl-antrim(a)rootsweb.com; David Dysart
Subject: Fw: [BOYD] Re: Jane Boyd and William Dysart of Co. Antrim and later Belmont Co., OHIO
David Dysart of Deland, FL USA has posted the message below to the Boyd net
list and I have replied below to him, with some possible areas to look, if
he has not already done so.
Is there any other sources that he might find information on his DYSART and
BOYD FAMILIES PRIOR TO 1805?
His Email is ddysart(a)stetson.edu as I assume that he is not a member of this
From: Mike Boyd
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 7:57 AM
Subject: [BOYD] Re: Jane Boyd and William Dysart of Co. Antrim and later
Belmont Co., OHIO
Good to hear from you David
This is getting into the area of being being a little more difficult to find
data for this family. At least you are not researching Mary or Margaret
Boyd which would be the two most popular names for girls.
Now to 20 questions!
1. How do you know that this family came from the "Townland of Garvaghy"?
2. You have told me previously that the family settled in Belmont County,
OHIO. I assume that this was not straight away in 1805. So what County in
PA might they have settled first?
3. Would that PA County history be worth looking at to see if it provides
any information about your Dysart family. You will also need to look for
any Boyd families that might have lived in or around it?
4. Would the 1810 USA Census, help identify where they were living in PA?
And does this also show any Boyd families living "near" by, within the
County. If so, it may be worth posting to this Boyd list those 1810 Boyd
entries to see if anyone can identify them.
5. The town of Portglenone is about 9 kms west of Ballymena. Ballymena
is one of the many "main" centres for Boyd families going back to early to
6. i have seen references to a Boyd family being at Craigs, about 7 or 8
kms to the NE in 1575. But I have no details on this Boyd family.
7. As I do not have an townland map, I can't see how far from the River
Bann that Garvaghy is. I assume that the Bann would have been used to bring
in goods and take out the products produced on the Farm.
8. It may also mean that the family left Ireland from the port of
Coleraine, rather than some other port. (I do not know of any shipping
lists for there.)
9. In my visits to the Ballymena Local Studies Library, I have not come
across Jane Boyd and William Dysart, but I was searching publications on
Boyd families. So have you been in contact with the Local Studies Library
at Ballymena (which covers this northern part of Antrim)? They may have
books/information on this Dysart family. Or there could be a Church history
for the Parish - or one of its churches - that might record the family and
list how and where William Dysart took his family to in PA. (I would assume
the western part of PA.)
10. The family has left before the Tithe Tax list period, but the
Ballymena Library may have some other sources that could identify the family
and perhaps form whom they were renting their farm, etc.
11. I assume that you have looked at the PRONI Indexes to see if they
have any mention of the family?
I assume that others might have additional suggestions or sources of data
for this family.
I look forward to talking to your at Stone Mountain, GA in October.
From: David Dysart
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:43 AM
Subject: [BOYD] Re: Is anyone researching any Boyd family?
Is anyone researching or already have information on Boyds in the late
1770's in County Antrim, No. Ireland - specifically in the Barony of Lower
Toome, Civil Parish of Portglenone, Townland of Garvaghy? I am a Boyd via
my 3x great-grandmother, Jane Boyd (b. abt. 1770) who sailed with my 3x
great-grandfather, William Dysart, in 1805 to the US. The ship manifest
lists them as of County Antrim, but after much research I have found that
there is the highest concentration of both Boyds and Dysarts in the
aforementioned location (at least according to the 1901 Irish census).
Deland, FL USA
Who were held hostage with Sir Thomas Boyd (7th Chief of Boyd) in 1423 for the release of King James I?
According to The Scots Peerage, ed Sir James Balfour Paul, Volume V, 1908, pp 140-141 it says:-
"THOMAS BOYD of Kilmarnock, who occurs as a witness at Edinburgh 29 March 1422. (Reg. Mag. Sig., 2 October 1427.) He was a hostage for the ransom of King James, having a safe-conduct till 30 April to go to Durham, 3 February 1423-24 (Cal. Doc. Scot., iv 942) and was delivered to the English envoys 28 March following. His revenue at this time was estimated at 500 merks. (Ibid., iv 952) He was confined in Dover Castle, being sent there from Fotheringay 21 May 1424. (Ibid., 960) By a warrant of 28 February 1424-25 he was sent for exchange to Durham, (Ibid., 973) being delivered at York Castle 16 June, (Ibid., 981) and had leave to return to Scotland till Martinmas, 16 July 1425. …”
Does anyone have access to the list of Scottish Nobles who were held by England as part of King James I’s reason? Or do you know of any source that might provide such information when I visit Glasgow and Edinburgh in early June 2019?
If I recall, some information that I saw some years ago, Sir Thomas revenue of 500 merks was one of the wealthiest amongst the nobles of that period.
I am wanting to see if some of these Barons did not have their children marry to each other’s children, as result of their time in captivity together and after they came home to Scotland over the next decade or two. It seems that the Boyds had some linkage to the Maxwell’s, as the first Lord Boyd, Robert Boyd, married Mariota (or Janet), daughter of Sir John Maxwell of Calderwood – which I estimate would have been in the 1440’s.
I just realised that I do not even know the total amount of the King’s ramson, to get some idea of the number of Barons that might have been involved in this hostages situation.
Thank you for your assistance.
Historical Committee, HBS
It has been over a week or more since I have seen any messages on the Boyd net list.
Has everyone stopped “researching” their Boyd Branch?
Or have you moved to writing up your research into a publication or book?
Or are there questions that you still need to find the answers to on your Boyd family Branch?
I find it incredible that everybody has found out all they want to know about their Boyd family!!
If you have a “BRICK WALL” on your Boyd family this is the place to get help to knock it down.
Someone on this list may know the family or be able to tell you where to look for information in a given source.
So as you move out of your home location or County – where you are an expert – to a new location, which is new to you, you need to find out what data is available in this new location that will help you expand your knowledge of your own Boyd family and the clan Boyd history.
If your family was in South Carolina and “your” branch moved one way down through Georgia, Alabama to Texas, but where did their siblings go. Did they go the route into Tennessee, into Kentucky and onto Missouri and then into Texas?
Then there is the question –how did they get to South Carolina? Did they come directly into the State or did they come down the Great Wagon Road from PA? And did they “stop” on one or more states along the way?
So these are questions that the list can help you with to tap into some of the knowledge of Clan members. So do not remain silent ASK YOUR QUESTIONS?
In a private group that I am involved with we found this website which might be useful to try to “trace” your Irish ancestors. On the page that was sent by one of these researchers, it should plenty of Boyds.
“This is titled:
Prerogative and diocesan copies of some wills and indexes to others, 1596 - 1858. For more information about their resources see:
I think the early wills were taken care of in the Dioceses, which may account for the location being St. Andrews [parish]. “
It seems that if there is an Indexation of your family, you can get a copy of the will.
The last column seemed to list the Parish in which the person lived, so it may need some trial and error in finding your “right” family connection.
From my three decades of collecting Boyd families, about 40 to 50% of people only know that there family came from “Ireland”. Another 20 or 25% might be ale to tell you the County in Ireland they came from. So even at this level, you re going to find “several” John Boyd, James Boyd, Robert Boyd, William Boyd, etc.
And if you use this website, can you write an article for editor Kevin (Email editor(a)clanboyd.org) on how you found using this source and if you found your ancestor.
In 1993, Tony Taylor, NZ supplied an list of 13 Boyd graves in the Old Ballyhalbert Churchyard in the Spring 1993 issue of Dean Road, pp 10 - 11
Is Tony still on this list? Or does anyone know what has happened to him?
It was only this morning that I asked myself what was his relationship to these Boyd families of the Old Ballyhalbert Churchyard on the Ards Peninsula?
Has anyone conducted research at the National Archives of Ireland in Bishop Street Dublin?
I have been to various Libraries in Dublin since 2010, but it was only in the last few days that I was made aware of the National Archives of Ireland at 8 Bishop Street, Dublin, which I had not thought about getting any information from on Boyd families. This is situated just south of Dublin Castle on the south side of the River.
Has anyone visited this Irish source of family tree data?
It appears that you can go online and access -
Welcome to the National Archives Genealogy Website. From this page, you can now access the Census Records for 1901 and 1911, Census survivals for 1821-51, Census Search forms for 1841-51, the Tithe Applotment Books from 1823 to 1837, the Soldiers’ Wills from 1914 to 1917, and the Calendars of Wills and Administrations from 1858 to 1922.
From 15 September 2016, you can access six major new record series on this site:
Prerogative and diocesan copies of some wills and indexes to others, 1596 – 1858
Diocesan and Prerogative Marriage Licence Bonds Indexes, 1623 – 1866
Catholic qualification & convert rolls, 1700 – 1845
Valuation Office house, field, tenure and quarto books 1824 – 1856
Shipping agreements and crew lists, 1863 – 1921
Will Registers 1858 – 1900
All of these records are free to access, through searchable databases and linked images of relevant pages. Eventually, we hope that the site will contain all of the important and easily accessible genealogical material in the custody of the National Archives.
Census of Ireland, 1901 and 1911, and pre-1901 survivals
Census Search Forms, 1841 - 1851
Tithe Applotments Books, 1823 – 1837
Soldiers’ Wills, 1914 – 1918
Calenders of Wills and Administrations, 1858 – 1922
Prerogative and diocesan copies of some wills and indexes to others, 1596 – 1858
Diocesan and Prerogative Marriage Licence Bonds Indexes, 1623 – 1866
Catholic qualifications & convert rolls, 1700 – 1845
Valuation Office house, field, tenure and quarto books 1824 – 1856
Shipping agreements and crew lists, 1863 – 1921
Will Registers 1858 - 1900
Surprising that they do not seem to have Griffith Valuations (for 1830 to 1860’s) listed hear?
I could not see anywhere on the few websites that I looked at for anyway to look at their holdings of publications. But those more experienced with websites might be able to find that area to see if the Irish Archives might hold “something on your family”.
The Archives contact Email is query(a)nationalarchives.ie
However there was a note – “Please note that the National Archives cannot undertake research on behalf of the public. Details of the National Archives’ Genealogy Service and professional researchers who undertake paid research are provided in the Genealogy section.”
The usefulness of this Irish Archives will depend on when your family left Ireland and perhaps if any part of it stayed behind in Ireland. I am not sure if you had a location – perhaps a townland or parish, town, etc – if these websites will allow to search by location or if you have to use a name.
So those of you making a future trip to Ireland, you may need to set a day aside in Dublin to go to the National Archives of Ireland.
The family of John (John Jr,) Logan Boyd, eldest child of John Boyd and Ann Logan, of Albany, NY and later Charlton, Saratoga Co., NY.
John Logan Boyd was the eldest child of John Boyd (1725 – 1799) and Ann Logan (1739 – 1815) and was born on 8 October 1758 in Ireland – thought to be in County Antrim, but the location in the County is not given. He came to Albany with his parents and siblings in the spring of 1762.
He grew to manhood in Albany, then settled in Ballston, now Charlton, Saratoga Co., New York, where he was a millwright and farmer. (But this source does not say when he moved.) He was the first supervisor of Charlton in 1791; later a justice of the peace; and was therefore of good standing and repute. In politics, he was undoubtedly a moderate Royalist or “Troy,” was once arrested on suspicion by the Commissioner of Conspiracies of Albany Co. and his father was one of his bondsmen in the sum of 200 pounds. He was driven from home however, by Burgoyne’s approach and with his neighbors petitioned the authorities for better military protection. The family moved in about 1799 to Newark, near Niagara, Ontario, Canada where they probably died and were buried.
The County of Saratoga was not founded until 1791 from Albany County.
The 1790 US Census to New York State tell us -
BOYD, John NY Co: Albany Twp: Albany 2nd Ward
BOYD, John NY Co: Albany Twp: Albany 3rd Ward
BOYD, John Jr NY Co: Albany Twp: Balls Town
BOYD, William NY Co: Albany Twp: Schachticoke
BOYD, George NY Co: Albany Twp: Schachticoke
BOYD, James NY Co: Albany Twp: Schenectady
BOYD, Mary NY Co: Albany Twp: Schenectady
BOYD, James NY Co: Albany Twp: Watervliet
BOYD, James NY Co: Albany Twp: Island In The River Not Included In Any Town
Hear, I am assuming that Balls Town form the 1790 Census is the same as Ballston. So the third lined appears to this John Logan Boyd and family. So this move appears to have taken place before 1790.
This John Logan Boyd married on 25 March 1779 to Anna Northrop, but the location of their marriage is not given nor Ann’s parents names. Perhaps they were married Albany, NY?
John Logan Boyd and Anna Northrop are said to have had 11 children, but only the names of three of them are given – John L. Boyd; Thomas Boyd; and Mary or Polly, who was born in 1782 at Stockbridge, Mass. and married prior to 1798 to John Laird. His parents are not known. It is not known if the other 8 children died young or in infancy or were married.
The other strange comment about this family is -
“In politics, he was undoubtedly a moderate Royalist or “Troy,” was once arrested on suspicion by the Commissioner of Conspiracies of Albany Co. and his father was one of his bondsmen in the sum of 200 pounds. He was driven from home however, by Burgoyne’s approach and with his neighbors petitioned the authorities for better military protection. The family moved in about 1799 to Newark, near Niagara, Ontario, Canada where they probably died and were buried.”
If this family were Royalist or “Troy” why did they wait until 1799 to go to Canada? So you would have thought they might have left the USA at the end of the War in 1783 and not wait until 16 years later.
Of the three known children it is said that John moved to Cincinnatus, Cortland County, New York, in 1811 and represented his county in the State Legislature in 1828. That Thomas was well known in Albany as the hatter. And Mary or Polly’s husband John Laired was a farmer and carpenter of Charlton, N. Y. They moved to Onondaga County, New York, in 1798. Record does not say how many children they had.
This does not suggest a family that moved to Newark, near Niagara, Ontario and then had three living children who lived in the USA. So this statement about the family moving to Canada may not be correct?
If you are connected to this family of John and Anna Boyd or can supply additional details on this family, I would like to hear from you please.
When did the Boyds first go to New York State and from where?
“When did the Boyds first go to New York State”? The short answer is that we do not know.
It is known that a John Boyd of Rye, then Connecticut and now Westchester County, New York State, was an early settler and bought land there in 1678. . He afterwards bought several other pieces of land, some of them jointly with John Merritt and also Thomas Merritt, which may suggest the fact that possibly he may have married a Merrit.
It is understood that these early Rye, CT settlers had come from Greenwick, CT and were most likely had come from England. However, it is not known what religion this John Boyd was or if he had come to Greenwick, CT from another Colony in the Americas or had come directly from England, Ireland or Scotland. But as he bought land, we can assume that he had “some wealth”, but even that is not known about him. His grandson, Captain Ebenzer Boyd (bc 1735 or 1740 – 1792) married on 28 September 1764 in the Reform Dutch Church – uncertain if this was at Rye, NY or some other location – but during the War of Independence, this area was in no-mans land between the British and Colonists, so he moved his family to Kent, Putnam County, just north of New York City.
So does Ebenzer’s marriage in the Reform Dutch Church have any importance, as to his family’s origins? So could this indicate that Ebenzer’s grandfather had come from Holland or had been a French Huguenot and escaped to Holland? History of this period could suggest these two Countries’ as possible origins for this John Boyd’s, as well as both Scotland and England.
In other literature, it is said that “a” Robert Boyd came in 1726 Orange County, NY (on the west bank of the Hudson River, just north of New York City). Nothing is know about this Robert Boyd or his family, except he appears to have lived at New Windsor, Orange County, NY. Nor does this family seem to have come up in Boyd research for the past two, or so, decades. And the limited literature that I have seen does not say where he came from, but might have suggested Ireland.
It is known that an Samuel Boyd, came to New York City, in about 1740 from Ballyhalbert Ards Peninsula, County Down, was a master tailor. And that in 1756 – although W. P. Boyd in his book of 1912 has “several” dates for their departure – Samuel’s brothers Robert, James and Nathaniel Boyd and their sister Mary Waugh, came with their families. When Samuel died in 1757, he left all four of them a farm each in Orange and Ulster Counties NY. (We have yet to find the location of these four farms of 1757.)
I have yet to learn if this Boyd family of Ballyhalbert and Rowragh (townland) were following other families from the Ards Peninsula to New York State – especially Boyd families.
There are several Boyd families known to have come to the upper Hudson Valley in the 1700’s
One of these was the family of Robert Boyd of Salem, NY about whom it is said:-
“Robert Boyd their ancestors, was born in the northern part of Ireland in 1745. He emigrated to America with his wife and family at about the close of the War of the Revolution. At this time there were a large company of Scotch-Irish emigrants under the leadership of a Presbyterian minister, the Rev Thomas Clark (the first minister of the town of Salem, N. Y.), set sail for this country, and along with his family, and took up their first home in America here. “
This Robert Boyd and his unknown wife came to New York in about 1780 to 1783, as he died in 7 December 1783 – thought to be in Salem – but it is not known from which County in Ireland his family came from.
There is a second Robert Boyd family of Middletown, NY (which I think was also in Washington County) - it is known that he came from the north of Ireland to Philadelphia, Pa., before the Revolutionary War (1776-1783)? From there he moved to Washington County, N. Y., and lost all this family except a daughter who married Aaron McNeal, from a disease outbreak. This might mean that he had some relationship with the Salem family above.
In 1776 or 1777 he removed to Little Britain, Orange County, N. Y. where he remarried as his second wife, Sarah Hunter (nee Lyons), widow of Robert Hunter. (Little Britain is not to far from New Windsor, where the Boyd brothers of Ballyhalbert had settled in 1757.) It is not known why this Robert Boyd moved from Middletown to Orange County. Nor do we know from which County in Ireland he came from?
In the spring of 1762, John Boyd, with his wife Ann Logan and three children, came to Albany, New York, where he became a prosperous merchant. He resided in Albany until 1793, when, as it appears on the Session Records of the First Presbyterian church, of which he was an elder, he removed to the country, meaning Johnstown, New York. There he established a saw mill in partnership with John Rogers, his brother-in-law, and died there. Ann, after the death of her husband, returned to Albany, resided with her daughter Nancy McHench (S2) until her death.
I have these details for John Boyd and Ann Logan
R1 John Boyd, b 15/11/1725 (Ireland), d 6/7/1799 (Johnstown, N. Y.), bu Johnstown, m / /1757 (church, Co. Antrim, Ireland), Ann Logan, dau of and (nee ) Logan, b 1739, d 9/2/1815 (Albany, N. Y.), bu Johnstown, N. Y., and had issue:-
While these details said that John Boyd was born in Ireland, some other advice thought he was born in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Scotland. (There were quite a number of Boyd families that seem to have gone to Ireland – for a decade or two – and then moved onto the USA. We have yet to learn why this migration pattern occurred. It may apply to other families as well?)
There was a second Boyd family of Albany, NY, who are said to be the Scottish cousins of the above John Boyd. This was the family of James Boyd and Jane MacMaster who brought his wife to Albany, NY in 1774. This family is thought to have come from Kirkcowan, Wigtonshire, Scotland. While I have been aware of these two families for over 20 years, I have yet to find their ancestors to show how they might be connected.
It is known that some other Boyd families from migrated west from Boston, MA, into Vermont, and then into New York State in the 1700’s as well.
If you know of any other Boyd families in the Hudson River Valley or in Upper New York State, I would like to hear from you please.
So while we know that a John Boyd bought land in Rye, CT (now NY) in 1678, so he could have arrived earlier, and that there were Boyds in New Jersey before 1700, it seems strange that the “first recorded” Boyd was in New York State by 1726.
From Kilmarnock Church Records, see Doug Brown's comments under John (R1)
Information from Doug Brown's Email of 8 December 1998 saying that first three children born in Co. Antrim. WHERE?
The dates of the Muster Rolls of Ireland, especially the nine counties of Ulster!
I was sent a website concerning a Byers family in Ireland, where it had outlined the Muster Roll for Co. Cavan in 1618. It made me realise that during my many visits to Northern Ireland since 2004, I have not look at these records.
This Byers site said –
“Muster Roll for Co. Cavan, 1618
The large-scale Plantation landlords, known as “undertakers”, were required to muster all able-bodied Protestant males on their estates between the ages of 16 and 60.
A government official, the muster master, recorded their names and arms.
The original muster rolls were destroyed in the 1922 fire at Dublin's Public Records Office, but copies survive for the nine counties of Ulster in the British Library (Add. MSS 4770) and these are available in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) in copy and transcript form (ref. D1759/3B/5).”
So the first question is “has anyone looked at these records in either the British Library in London or at PRONI in Belfast?
I assume from this short note, that the London record is a handwritten copy of the 1618 the Muster Roll. While the PRONI record is both an handwritten record of the 1618 plus a transcript into “modern English” and hopefully typed.
So has anyone looked at these records to see if any Boyds are listed by name and location?
The second question is “What other Muster Rolls are there over time for other Irish Counties”? And where might these be kept? Are the records for the six Northern Ireland Counties kept at PRONI?
Have anyone got a list of these Muster Rolls and have you looked for Boyd and their spelling variations on these lists?
Historical Committee, HBS
Perhaps you remember me from our past communications (the last one being 10/17 re: Letter CB17003A). I am a Boyd by virtue of my 3x great-grandmother Jane Boyd Dysart who sailed to the US in 1805 with her husband William Dysart as Scot-Irish. They settled first in Western Pennsylvania and then in Belmont County Ohio.
I do not know if this is something that should be posted to the Boyd Message Board, and if so, in what form.
I have done some digging – attempting to further pinpoint where in Antrim William and Jane would have come from. Most signs have indicated the Rasharkin/Portglenone/Ahoghill area. As you probably know, No. Ireland is divided into 59 Baronies. County Antrim has 15. Each varies in size but each is generally 150 sq. km/60 sq. miles. Each Barony is (at least in modern times) divided into Civil Parishes. County Antrim has, I think about 93 (approx. 40 sq. km/18 sq. miles). Each Civil Parish is then divided into generally about 20 Townlands (approx. 4 sq. km/1.5 sq. miles).
Given the general location indicated above, it seemed most logical to examine the Barony of Lower Toome with its 5 civil parishes (Ahoghill, Craigs, Kirkinriola, Portglenone and Rasharkin) – a total of 109 Townlands each with an average of 300 residents!
I found the website https:www.townlands.ie. This site is connected to the 1901 and 1911 Irish Census and Griffith’s Valuation. (There are no Dysarts on the latter and neither is Lower Toome included.) I utilized the 1901 Census. I realize that is 100 years after William and Jane left, but I thought if I could find the largest concentration of Dysarts and Boyds together, it would be a strong INDICATION of their exact homeland.
Here are the results:
Civil Parish of Ahoghill – 7 Boyd families (1 Catholic, 1 Moravian)
Civil Parish of Craigs – 5 Boyd families
Civil Parish of Kirkinriola – 2 Boyd families (not including Ballymena proper with
approx. 14 Boyd households – all day laborers of some sort)
Civil Parish of Rasharkin – 3 Boyd families (1 Church of Ireland)
1 Dysart family
Civil Parish of Portglenone – 9 Boyd Families
9 Dysart Families
The Townland of Garvaghy (3.4 sq. km/1.3 sq. miles) alone
listed – 7 Dysart families
4 Boyd families
If Irish Census are done like the ones in the US where those families listed next to each other were usually neighbors, then some of the above Boyds and Dysarts were indeed neighbors.
I think it is time to return to Antrim and do some foot work!!! The site I listed above provides maps for each townland with its exact delineation, roads, etc.
I will be most anxious to hear of your thoughts.
On another note, I recently realized that the name Boyd was used as either a first or middle name of at least one male all the way into my Grandfather’s generation. (My Grandfather’s brother – the eldest – was Fred Boyd Dysart. Their father was John Boyd Dysart and his father was Boyd William Dysart – the youngest child of Jane Boyd Dysart.)
I look forward to hearing from you and to meeting you at the Stone Mountain Games in October.
Does anyone on this list have the above Book please?
I need to check if it outlines the Boyd family from Ballyblack townland, which is just north of Mount Stewart, Ards Peninsula, County Down. And if it provides only a direct line or provides siblings for each of those generations?
I have a feeling that it links this family to the Boyds of Glastry, which was in Hamilton Lands.
I was sent this query privately today. Is there anyone on this net list researching this Boyd family of Worcester, Worcester County, MA?
Anybody know who this is??
Name: Samuel Boyd
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1736
Father's Name: James Boyd
Mother's Name: Jean
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C50164-1
System Origin: Massachusetts-ODM
GS Film number: 0864093, 0864090
Citing this Record:
"Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQXL-996 : 4 December 2014), Samuel Boyd, 31 Jan 1736; citing WORCESTER,WORCESTER,MASSACHUSETTS, ; FHL microfilm 864,093, 864,090.
“The Londonderry Papers”, PRONI Reference # D654 – Freeholders and Election lists
I was sent this reference privately –
“PRONI Reference # D654
Title: Londonderry Papers
Search for: Ballyhalbert on the page.
Under the heading: The 1803 Invasion Scare (as mentioned in previous email).
Also following that part on the webpage:
Under the heading: Local government and election material
"The electoral register material, 1781-1824, includes an election check book for Co. Down containing the names of freeholders from A to G only, registered from 1746 - 1789, arranged alphabetically and another containing the names of freeholders arranged by the townlands in which their property lay, and apparently including all the townlands and freeholders in Co. Down, c. 1789."
When I was last at PRONI in 2015, I sent my five days looking for Boyd wills – and still have more to copy – so I have not seen these papers or know what data that it might contain on Boyd families in County Down or parts of County Down.
Will anyone be going to Belfast this year? If so, can you, or could you, put this on your “todolist” please?
It appear to contain –
1. The 1803 Agricultural Survey, as a result of the French invasion. Not sure how “wide” and area is covered.
2. The electoral register material, 1781-1824, includes an election check book for Co. Down containing the names of freeholders from A to G only, registered from 1746 – 1789, and
3. apparently including all the townlands and freeholders in Co. Down, c. 1789.
4. there could be other list of data in this as well?
I am looking to be able to produce Tables of Boyd listed, with columns of data (with a header) and the full PRONI title and source reference [so future researchers can look at this original data for themselves.] These Tables will need the lines numbered in the first column; the name of the Boyd; the location, including townland, Parish, etc; area of land if given and any other data that is provided.
I would like to see that these tables are sent to the Boyd net list for reference, send to the editor of Dean Road (Email editor(a)clanboyd.org) and put on the future history pages within our webpage, under the table compilers name.
At this time, no one knows what all the Boyd families are in County Down. I have a list of a number of Boyd graves from 20 Volumes of MI’s for County Down, but I suspect this is not the full list of County Down Cemeteries. (I am hopeful this year that I can, turn these MI’s into family Chapters in the second Volume of Boyd families form County Down in “Clan Boyd of Scotland”).
So making tables of this data in “the Londonderry Papers” will help to build some of this lack of Boyd knowledge in County Down.
Thank you for your assistance.
Historical Committee, HBS
The family of Frew Boyd and Margaret Thompson of Cunningburn, County Down.
Frew Boyd (1810 – 1896) is listed on the same gravestone as Alexander Boyd and Ellenor Hay of Cunningburn, whom are assumed to be his parents.
This is the first time that I have seen the Christen name of “Frew”. So has this name come from a spouse of an earlier generation?
Frew and Margaret were married on 9 February 1840 at the Non-subscribing Presbyterian Church at Greyabbey. Frew Boyd is termed as being “of Ballymurphy”. (While his father in 1843, when Ellenor Hay died, is termed as being of Cunningburn. So does this mean that between 1840 and 1843 that Alexander Boyd had moved from Ballymurphy to Cunningburn, or was there some other reason why Frew was living at Ballymurphy?)
Ballymurphy is about 1 km north of Greyabbey village and Cunningburn is about 5 kms NW of Greyabbey village.
1. Mary J Boyd, bc / /1846 (town, etc), d 18/1/1861 (town, Co Down, Ireland), bu Old Greyabbey Churchyard, unm. [From Gravestone. (Assume daughter of Frew Boyd, but termed granddaughter of Alexander Boyd?) ]
2. Robert Boyd, born 27th November 1849 – nothing more known.
3. James Boyd, born 10th March 1852, died 19th March 1881 aged 29 years. Interred Greyabbey.
4. John Boyd, born 12th May 1855, died 16th June 1905 aged 50 years. Unmarried. Interred Greyabbey. Was living with Samuel and Margaret Thompson at the time of the 1901 Census.
5. Margaret Boyd, born 21st September 1857. Married Samuel Thompson of Cunningburn (they had seven children) on 19th July 1883 in Newtownards NSP Church.
6. Alexander Boyd, born 22nd October 1861 – nothing more known.
The last five children were baptised at the Non-subscribing Presbyterian Church, Greyabbey, but there does not seem to be any other records for any additional children to fill in the gaps
So the first question is were any additional children born to them?
Between 1840 and 1846, two or three children might have been born in this period. While there are three-year gaps between first four known children and a four-year gap between the fifth and sixth known children! These gaps would normally suggest additional children, but the Baptism records at the Non-subscribing Presbyterian Church at Greyabbey do not indicate that more children were born to them. So does this mean that the records are not complete or that they only had six known children?
Three of their children are listed on the gravestone and there could be a fourth – if the granddaughter, Mary, of Alexander is the daughter of Frew.
Margaret Thompson died 10 November 1861, about three weeks after Alexander Boyd was born on 22 October 1861. Yet he does not appear to have re-married with such a young family. While his eldest known daughter – we assume – Mary J. Boyd, had died in 18 January 1861, so she could not have looked after Alexander Boyd, Jr., when her mother died. So does this indicate that there were some older sisters available to bring him up or might one of Alexander, Senior’s sisters have wet nursed Alexander? Or was Alexander Boyd, Jr. given to another family to bring up?
So what happened to Robert Boyd and Alexander Boyd? Robert might have gone to USA – perhaps after about 1865 or after his was twenty years old? At this time, it is not know if Alexander Boyd, Jr. was either adopted or might also have gone to join his bother in the USA in the early 1880’s? It appears from, what is thought to be one of his cousins, that he might have had two uncles – Robert and James Boyd – living in New York City in 1864.
So if you have a Boyd family in the USA that had an ancestor who was called Frew Boyd, this might be your Boyd family in County Down.
We would like to hear form you please.
Historical Committee, HBS
Is there anyone on this list researching Boyd families in Southend, Kintyre, Argyllshire?
From a Clan Campbell history, I have seen a list of about 20 Boyd – Campbell marriages in the early 1600’s - perhaps about 1600 to 1620 - in a Parish in mid-Kintyre. So this would suggest that Boyd families had been in this area for some hundreds of years.
If that is correct, this is an area that we seem to have very little knowledge of.
Did they go there as part of Earl/Duke of Argyll’s “settlements” or was it because these Boyds were covenanters, or some other reason?
This is a very nice part of Scotland, so someone this northern summer might like a nice drive down Kintyre and to places like Campbeltown and Southend to see if they can find any Boyd family records (or even families).
I am not shire where these people might have migrated to, form the 1600’s. After 1800, they could have gone to Glasgow to find work in the heavy industry sectors.
So if you have any knowledge of Boyds in this part of the World please tell the net list
Historical Committee, HBS
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