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Only 9 days to Christmas Day.
HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND
A VERY HEALTHY AND PROSPEROUS 2007
Look after yourselves and your computers.
Very best wishes
Barbara and Roger Lewis Mallyon
Basingstoke, Hants, UK
Blind Genealogists List Admin
Subject: 1911 Census - an early release
The National Archives receives information commissioner's report on 1911
The National Archives has been sticking to a 100-year closure ruling on old
census records meaning that the 1911 Census will only see the light of day
in 2012. But, our Guy took his case to a commission and won!
Effective next month you'll be able to request information from 1911 Census
records for a fee, and they're going to start putting the 1911 Census
online three years early in 2009 (though not in its entirety).
Starting in January, TNA will offer a limited research service where the
address of an individual in the 1911 Census is already known. There will be
a non-refundable search charge of £45 (see
Meanwhile, TNA said it hopes to offer a searchable online service in early
2009, with key sensitive information withheld until 2012. A contract for
digitising the Census is expected to be awarded in spring this year. Chief
executive Natalie Ceeney said TNA will digitise the 1911 Census as quickly
as they can.
Meanwhile, there have been delays in the expected release of the 1911
for Ireland. Dublin's records were due to be online at the end of December.
Philip Doyle of the National Archives of Ireland told us: "Both the 1901
and 1911 censuses are expected to be online by 2008-09. Dublin Census
Records for 1911 are now expected to be released in June 2007."
We cannot provide personally sensitive information from the 1911 census
How do I make a request now?
Will I have to pay for this information?
This will be a charged service in line with The National Archives Paid
Research service - currently £45 per address search.
The fee is for the research work and we will endeavour to do all we can to
find the information you want.
Unfortunately we will not be able to offer refunds on unsuccessful searches
When will this service start ?
The service has not been launched yet but we are working hard to deliver a
service to you as soon as possible.
Please do not apply yet as we will not be able process your request.
Please monitor this website for updates.
Read our press release for further information.
If you have any questions please visit the 1911 FAQ page
This report has been cut down for the List, please see the
National Archives for further information.
Barbara Lewis Mallyon
Basingstoke, Hants, UK
A death certificate will give the date, cause and place of death, if known,
it does not give the time. It will also give the name and address of the
informant. The month given is when the death was registered not necessarily
when the death occurred, it may have actually occurred in the previous
month. You may obtain a copy of the certificate, using the reference
obtained from FreeBMD, by ordering online at
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ they cost £7-00 and take
about 4-5 days at the moment but that will probably get longer because of
the post at this time of year.
As to the legality of printing references I will leave that to someone who
actually knows. As to the actual information I have always understood that
that which is a known fact is not copyrightable. It is the format and
context of its presentation that is copyrightable not the fact itself. If I
am wrong on this please let us all know!
On 10/12/06, Alexander Shannon <alexacts2v4(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi all, I wonder if someone can help me with the following question.
> I was trying to ascertain the exact details from the death certificate of
> my cousin who died in 1999 at the age of 35. <SNIP> the following questions
> 1. in order to confirm the exact time and place of death, I need to take
> what I have found on the web to the local registry office, do I have the
> right legally to print out the information I found on the web in order to
> obtain the missing information, or do I have to ask the permission of the
> local registry office or the main office in London before I can print it?
> 2. Due to the way my family tree program works I need, as I said above,
> toget the exact date of death if not the time, and the information on the
> web does not give the date to the day it only goes so far as to give the
> month of death. Do people think I will be able to obtain the information I
> require from the registry office, or will I have to go by what is on the
> Thank you for your answers in advance.
> Alexander Shannon
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Hi all, I wonder if someone can help me with the following question.
I was trying to ascertain the exact details from the death certificate of my
cousin who died in 1999 at the age of 35.
I have found a copy of the details online, however there are two important
pieces of information that are not given on the web and I feel I need to
contact the registry office where the death was registered, however, my
problem is that being that I am visually impaired, and that I do not
currently have access to a printer of my own, the following questions arise:
1. in order to confirm the exact time and place of death, I need to take
what I have found on the web to the local registry office, do I have the
right legally to print out the information I found on the web in order to
obtain the missing information, or do I have to ask the permission of the
local registry office or the main office in London before I can print it?
2. Due to the way my family tree program works I need, as I said above, to
get the exact date of death if not the time, and the information on the web
does not give the date to the day it only goes so far as to give the month
of death. Do people think I will be able to obtain the information I
require from the registry office, or will I have to go by what is on the
Thank you for your answers in advance.