Hi Melanie,
I'll intersperse my answers between your questions, here goes ...
-----Original Message-----
From: Melanie Tucker <melanieptucker(a)Yahoo.com>
To: BlaenauGwent-L(a)rootsweb.com <BlaenauGwent-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 11 October 2004 19:15
Subject: Re: [Bla'Gwent] Beaufort & Llangynidr--civil registration districts
and census districts
Hi James,
Thanks so much for your explanation. Just to clarify a few things.
1. When you refer to parish you also mean sub-district, correct?
- parishes and sub-districts are distinct, parishes being ancient and
ecclesiastical, sub-districts being modern civil divisions but yes, they do
largely correspond. The authorities seem to have adopted parishes as
sub-districts.
2. Just a reminder for me. I have a hard time visualizing political
boundaries in
Wales since they are quite a bit different than the U.S. and
since there is a different name for census returns, BMD info. etc.
Country
County
Parish
Town/Hamlet
(where does hundred fit in? Is there anything else?)
- hundreds are ancient, a hundred was a group of parishes within a county. A
county would be divided into several hundreds.
3. If the three areas of Llangynidr, Beaufort, and Bedwellty are listed on
census
returns for my Hannah Rees, perhaps she was really born is Beaufort,
since Beaufort does in a way have something to do with all three areas?
- yes, Beaufort could come under all three, your best bet would be to look
for her birth in Crickhowell district. Failing that, try Bedwellty. I doubt
it could be anywhere else.
4. If I want to search census returns for Beaufort before 1861, I would
need to
check the following areas.
Place Sub-District
District
County
Beaufort Aberystruth
Bedwelty Monmouth
Beaufort Llangattock
Crickhowell Brecon
Beaufort Llangynidr
Crickhowell Brecon
- yes
Thanks so much,
Melanie
Hi Melanie,
I was born in Beaufort so I know the geography well but I can completely
understand the confusion this would cause to anyone not familiar with the
area. Beaufort was a village that grew up during the Industrial Revolution
and it was largely located in the parish of Llangattock but some of the
western parts were in Llangynidr. Both came under the Crickhowell
registration district (records now at Brecon). Other (fewer) parts were in
Aberystruth which was within the Bedwellty Registration district (records
at
Tredegar). The actual villages of Llangynidr and Llangattock are quite
a
way
from Beaufort and they were, and remain, quite distinct in other ways
- the
villages being wholly rural while Beaufort bore more resemblance to
industrial Ebbw Vale. Today Beaufort is regarded as part of Ebbw Vale which
is testimony to this. Beaufort became a parish in its own right in the
1890s
and was finally incorporated into Monmouthshire in the early part of
the
20th century (1930s I think), before that it was Breconshire. Llangattock
and Llangynidr remained in Breconshire - now part of Powys. I hope this
helps!
James Phillips-Evans
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