Dear Jerry
Don't completely discount the Abergavenny entry - it really is very close.
Best wishes
Anne
-----Original Message-----
From: blaenaugwent-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:blaenaugwent-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jerry White
Sent: 30 October 2007 01:18
To: blaenaugwent(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [BLAENAUGWENT] MAT(T)HEWS and
WILLIAMSfromLlanellyandtheClydach Ironworks.
Hi Clive,
Yes, I had already found those pictures. There really is a stark beauty
about the place. I'd love to go there one day, and stand in front of the
furnaces and try to imagine what it would have been like with the heat,
smoke and noise of iron production.
I don't think it would be the Elizabeth Matthews from 1857, as she died in
the Abergavenney district, and Llanelly is in the Crickhowell district. I've
found two Crickhowell entries for an Elizabeth Matthews, one in Jun 1859,
and one in Mar 1860. Either of them could be my gt.gt.grandmother. I'll just
have to send off for one of the certificates, and hope I get it right first
time.
As you say, it is possible that Cinwen Matthews was simply not recorded at
wherever she was for the census. I wonder if she might simply have been at a
cousins house and gone unrecorded, as her grandparents house was full. They
had three grandsons, a servant and four visitors under their roof that
night.
Regards
Jerry White
-----Original Message-----
From: blaenaugwent-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:blaenaugwent-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Clive Gardener
Sent: 29 October 2007 02:25
To: blaenaugwent(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [BLAENAUGWENT] MAT(T)HEWS and WILLIAMS
fromLlanellyandtheClydach Ironworks.
Hi Jerry
The best I can find on the internet is the set of pictures by
John Ball:
http://people.brunel.ac.uk/~simon/blaina/wfha/980926.htm
but, as you point out, there's nothing like seeing the works
as they originally appeared!
Have you come across this death entry:
DEC 1857 Elizabeth Matthews Abergavenny 11a 48
- it fits in perhaps with Cinwen Matthews' birth?
DEC 1857 Cinwen Matthews Crickhowell 11b 131
Some of the 1861 Census records are missing. It's always
possible that Cinwen was left off and was actually living
with her grandfather, like her brother was. Alternatively,
perhaps she was in a hospital and either not included in the
enumeration at all or only included for her initials?
A second copy of my original reply has just turned up on the
list - please ignore it as there was some bother sending it,
so in the absence of anything having appeared I sent a second
copy to make sure it got through OK. A second e-mail which I
sent to the list on a separate subject, at 21:43 on 28/10,
still hasn't appeared yet.
Regards
Clive Gardener
Tel/Fax: 020 7987 8820
www.secret-bottletop.com
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