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Would like correspond with any MCMAHONS & JENKINS descendants EMILY DALGLEISH
(b. ca 1883 Wales) & JACK MCMAHON. EMILY was dau. of THOMAS DALGLEISH & MARY
JANE CROCKER, who lived in Rhymney, on Collier's Row, and both died there in
1888.
Thank you,
Kathy (Dalgleish) Gregory
KMdalgreg(a)aol.com
Fairview, OR USA
I chanced upon a Tippins which might have slipped Robin's net:
re an MI (perhaps no longer extant) in MONMOUTH Churchyard, noted in
Catholic Record Society Vol 12, 1913, Catholic Memorial Inscriptions,
by the inimitable John Hobson Matthews. The inscription, on a sloped
Latin cross in relief, mentioned 6 people, among them Elizabeth wife
of John Stead, grocer; ob. 24 March 1844, aet 34. The footnote tells
us Elizabeth "was nee Tippins. She and her husband were converts; the
latter lived to see his 100th year."
The book, with details of the others mentioned in that inscription
(Green & Pugh), & others in Monmouthshire & just over into
Herefordshire (& maybe GLS?), should be available in major reference
libraries, and certainly is in Newport & Cardiff.
The same volume also contains various Catholic obituaries, 1773-1839;
not specifically local to this area.
The book has an index, including personal names.
Anne Scales
AncestralRoots(a)annescales.freeserve.co.uk
My mother's 1921 birth registration gives her place of birth as G..per
Wyndham, 348 Terrace, Risca in the Newport Registration District and
Rogerstone Subdistrict. Can anyone who lives in the area help me interpret
the missing letters.
Her name was Vera May Pritchard and she raised in a small mining town of
Markham. She emigrated to the US soon after marrying my dad in Bedwellty
Church. She died in 1973, but I remember the longing and love she had for
the land of her youth. My wife and I are planning a trip to the area this
summer and would appreciate any geography lessons, tourist tips and insights
into Monmouth genealogical research.
Doug Short
St. Louis, MO USA
Hi Tony,
Risca is closer to Newport than most people think - only a cough and a
spit - to put it vulgarly. Only ten minutes in the car through town
traffic. My husband and I have walked there along the canal bank on many
a warm summer evening.
Ann Macey
Editor Gwent FHS Journal
http://welcome.to/Gwent.FHS
ICQ number 18574928
Vainly searching for the background of Theophilus JONES and Rachel
JENKINS who married at the Llanwenarth Chapel, Govilon in 1854 just
before migrating to Australia. There place of residenace on the marriage
certificate was Blaenavon Llanover, and the respective parents were
Richard JONES ( who may have been married to Elizabeth LLOYD)and Morgan
JENKINS, whose spouse may have been Hannah BUTLER or Rachel THOMAS.
Is there anyone out there who might give me a lead to success - or even
a sniff of success. Thanking you in anticipation, Lloyd Jones, Australia
Hello Ann,
You must have had something serious power under the bonnet
of your car.It used to take me 10 minutes on my motorbike from
St.Julians up to the "Ty-sign" estate ..... and that was pushing
it some :o)
And for the record,I used to have to ride through Blaina at 50mph
because the bl***y kids couldn't 'lock on target' with their missiles
at that speed.
Stuart Moverley
Plymouth,Devon,UK
sfmov(a)btinternet.com
Stuart's HomePage is at http://www.btinternet.com/~sfmov
> Only ten minutes in the car through town traffic.
Hi, shwmae all,
Ann mentioned the canal in Risca. What is the name of the canal, and did it
follow the Ebbwy? Does much of it remain intact? I know the canal was built
for the iron and coal industry back in the early 1800's. I'm very interested
in towpath canals and would love to learn more about these historic ditches in
Wales. Two summers ago I spent a week on the Llangollen Canal and had a
wonderful time in a rented narrowboat. My next trip over I want to spend some
time on the Mon & Brec Canal, which I believe is only navigable above
Pontypool. It's such a great way to enjoy the scenery and I've heard the Mon
& Brec traverses some pretty country. Any Navvies on the list with
information about these wonderful old canals?
Regarding Risca, wasn't that on the route when the Chartists marched on
Newport in 1842? My g/g/g/grandfather (who mined iron and coal for Crawshay
Bailey's Cwm Crachen works) marched with Zephaniah Williams from Nantyglo and
survived the shoot-out at the Westgate, bless his insurrectionist soul. I
know where my rebellious streak comes from.
Hwyl,
Larry
Hello Tony,
"Penrhiw" is still an area of Risca and it's only about 8 miles
away from Newport.Probably because Risca was only a small
village at that time and Newport was the largest place nearby,
it came under that registration district.I can send you a small
map of the area if you're interested.
Stuart Moverley
Plymouth,Devon,UK
sfmov(a)btinternet.com
Stuart's HomePage is at http://www.btinternet.com/~sfmov
Anyone,
I'm still looking for anyone who has information about the Probert's or
Thomas's of the Parish of Penallt, Monmouthshire(Gwent). If you could
contact me I'll let you know what I would like to know.
Neil
U.S.A.
Shw mae
I've been reading the list for months now and thought I'd start posting some
of my interests.
John and Martha Green were living in Parsons Row, Blaina in 1881. Anyone
else with Green roots in Blaina?
John was originally from Frampton, GLS, born c. 1837.
Their son George was born in Blaina in abt 1862.
I haven't done much on this line myself. Just wondered if there were any
potential cousins out there.
Steffan Ellis
Hi All,
I have just received a 1911 certified copy of a 1873 Birth Certificate on
which it states
that Joseph HORLER my GG uncle ( his uncle Joseph was killed in Risca New
Pit July 1880) was born PEN Y RHIW, RISCA, MON ,Registration District of
NEWPORT Sub -District of St.Woolas in the Counties of MONMOUTH & GLAMORGAN.
Was / is Risca the subject of a border dispute :0)
Also. Why is RISCA in the NEWPORT District surely it is miles away from
Newport?
or is it a different Newport?
please excuse my ignorance :0)
Tony in OZ
Hello List
I need help with this one please.
I think my GGgrandfather, WILLIAM WILLMOTT,has been found for me, in the
directory 1871,as in the( Apportionment of
Rent Charges for Christchurch during 1871 as Renting a Cottage and
Garden at
BISHPOOL, MON. The land was owned by the Executors of Thomas Powell )
The directory were selective about entries
so are not a comprehensive record.
Tell me why would something like renting,
be intered in any records,such as this?
Also if i was to find someone,to do a lookup of the 1871 census at the
Cottage
and Garden in BISHPOOL, MON. for me.
What would be close enough and included
the district of BISHPOOL, MON? And
would you think the LDS would have this
film? I dont know a parish name for BISHPOOL, wonder if that would
help?
Please anyone,if you can help,please do.
Email me at (ormand(a)webtv.net)
Thank you. KEN
Keneth Willmott
3625 Yosemite Dr.
Greeley Co.80634 USA
ormand(a)webtv.net
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/woods/5676
Looking for some help and assistance. I am trying to locate my SULLIVAN line.
I have ascertained my great grandfather Patrick SULLIVAN, born 1840-1843,
immigrated to Wales from Ireland. While in Wales he met and married my great
grandmother Ellen CUMMIN(G)S who was born in Wales and lived in Rhymney. When
Patrick and Ellen married in Rhymney,Bedwellt, Monmouthshire 28 July 1863 he
was a fireman in the Iron Works. At the time of their marriage Patrick
indicated his father John SULLIVAN was deceased. Ellen and Patrick had a
daughter born 1865 in Wales before they immigrated to Pennsylvania in the US
via Liverpool. Is there someway I can check and find out if Patrick's father
John died in Wales? Is there any way I can check and find out if there are
any records of people from Ireland immigrating to Wales. I will appreciate
any thoughts and suggestions. Thanking all those who respond in advance,
hopefully. Walton J. Sullivan at wsullivw(a)aol.com
Hi
I may be wrong but I friend researching family in Dublin tells me that
the southern Irish are have various backrounds on of which is Viking.
Northern Ireland certain has a celtic/scotish heritage.
Simon
> >
Jackie, >
> I'm new at this also, but have done quite a bit of historical research.
> Just for information. You put a lot of gr's in that letter. There is a
> close connection between the Irish and Scots. They may not want to
> admit it but they both are from a Celtic background. It's debateable as
> to if the Irish came from Scotland or the Scots came from Ireland.
>
> Mc or Mac means "son of" and be careful of names, back in the old days
> the spelling changed considerably and often.
>
> There are a lot areas that you can look, you just have to keep digging.
>
> Neil
> Michigan
>
> Slagle wrote:
> >
> > It seems somewhat strange to me, but I am still new to this, I found out
> > that my gr,gr,gr,gr,gr,gr grandfather a McFarland of Ireland(think his
> > family came from Scotland, but still working on that) married a Elizabeth
> > Kirkpatrick of Wales they went to Greene Co Ohio in 1803. ANy body have
> > any clues, and is this a Welsh name. Jackie in ND, USA
> > pondrosa(a)minot.ndak.net
> > an off genealogy note. The young(13) singer Charlotte Church whos CD just
> > was released in the states today is fabulous. I have listened to it 4 times
> > today, and will probably go to sleep listening to it tonight.
> >
> > ==== BlaenauGwent Mailing List ====
> >
> > Gwent Family History Society
> > http://www.riggs.ndirect.co.uk/Gwent/FHS/Index.htm
> > *Blaina/Nantyglo website: http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~simon/blaina.html
>
>
> ==== BlaenauGwent Mailing List ====
>
> Gwent/Monmouthshire Information:
> http://www.genuki.org.uk.big/wal/MON
> Blaina/Nantyglo website:http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~simon/blaina.html
>
>
Vanessa,
I seem to have some trouble getting through. Do you have a direct e-mail
address. It might be easier. Maybe it's because your so far away.
I've sent you some information today 3-17 at 11:00 A.M. and I'm not sure
it got through.
If you don't mind giving me your e-mail address it might make it easier.
Mine is n.thomas(a)home.com
Neil
Michigan,USA
Simon,
The biggest problem is that all of the British Isles were over run with
many different groups of people. Celtics, Romans, Anglos, Saxon,
Vikings, Danes and French. If any thing is pure in a race its probably
the Irish, Scots and Welsh. This is because they were fierce fighters
but were driven out of Europe and and England into Ireland, Scotland and
Wales. I would think if any purity is left it is greatest in the Welsh,
who have always fought vigorously for their independence.
Neil
Michigan
Simon.Furber(a)brunel.ac.uk wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I may be wrong but I friend researching family in Dublin tells me that
> the southern Irish are have various backrounds on of which is Viking.
> Northern Ireland certain has a celtic/scotish heritage.
>
> Simon
>
> > >
> Jackie, >
> > I'm new at this also, but have done quite a bit of historical research.
> > Just for information. You put a lot of gr's in that letter. There is a
> > close connection between the Irish and Scots. They may not want to
> > admit it but they both are from a Celtic background. It's debateable as
> > to if the Irish came from Scotland or the Scots came from Ireland.
> >
> > Mc or Mac means "son of" and be careful of names, back in the old days
> > the spelling changed considerably and often.
> >
> > There are a lot areas that you can look, you just have to keep digging.
> >
> > Neil
> > Michigan
> >
> > Slagle wrote:
> > >
> > > It seems somewhat strange to me, but I am still new to this, I found out
> > > that my gr,gr,gr,gr,gr,gr grandfather a McFarland of Ireland(think his
> > > family came from Scotland, but still working on that) married a Elizabeth
> > > Kirkpatrick of Wales they went to Greene Co Ohio in 1803. ANy body have
> > > any clues, and is this a Welsh name. Jackie in ND, USA
> > > pondrosa(a)minot.ndak.net
> > > an off genealogy note. The young(13) singer Charlotte Church whos CD just
> > > was released in the states today is fabulous. I have listened to it 4 times
> > > today, and will probably go to sleep listening to it tonight.
> > >
> > > ==== BlaenauGwent Mailing List ====
> > >
> > > Gwent Family History Society
> > > http://www.riggs.ndirect.co.uk/Gwent/FHS/Index.htm
> > > *Blaina/Nantyglo website: http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~simon/blaina.html
> >
> >
> > ==== BlaenauGwent Mailing List ====
> >
> > Gwent/Monmouthshire Information:
> > http://www.genuki.org.uk.big/wal/MON
> > Blaina/Nantyglo website:http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~simon/blaina.html
> >
> >
>
> ==== BlaenauGwent Mailing List ====
>
> Gwent Family History Society
> http://www.riggs.ndirect.co.uk/Gwent/FHS/Index.htm
> *Blaina/Nantyglo website: http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~simon/blaina.html
Vanessa:
You want me to make it easy for you. Really I don't know. I just
thought of something unrelated. When a person writes e-mail there's no
accent, a mate.
If I do find any more information I'll let you know.
Geography fascinates me. Where is Masterton, give me another big city
your near. It seems exciting to converse with someone that far away
from my home in Michigan.
Neil
U.S.A.
vanessa wrote:
>
> Neil -
>
> Sounds like fun - I always wanted to play at detective..... any idea what
> Barbaras daughters surname is now?
>
> The hunt has begun........ LOL.
>
> Vanessa
> -----Original Message-----
> From: N Thomas <n.thomas(a)home.com>
> To: BlaenauGwent-L(a)rootsweb.com <BlaenauGwent-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 17 March 1999 05:28
> Subject: Re: [BlaenauGwent-L] Barbara Sobey
>
> >Vanessa:
> >
> >Lets have some fun if you want to. I'm mailing from Michigan, U.S.A.
> >
> >Lets see if we can find Barbara Sobey. She visiting her daughter and
> >son-in-law. They live in the northern most town in New Zealand. Her
> >son-in-law is a carpenter and building contractor. He has his own firm.
> >Barbara said he has a computer. She is to be there through March. I
> >know nothing about New Zealand so what I asking might be ridiculous. If
> >it is just forget it.
> >
> >It was nice of you to send me a note and good hearing from New Zealand.
> >
> >Neil
> >Michigan
> >
> >vanessa wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Neil - I am in New Zealand, Masterton, Wairarapa - don't know the lady
> in
> >> question, but if you know where she is I could try and contact her for
> you.
> >>
> >> Vanessa
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: N Thomas <n.thomas(a)home.com>
> >> To: BlaenauGwent-L(a)rootsweb.com <BlaenauGwent-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, 16 March 1999 05:38
> >> Subject: [BlaenauGwent-L] Barbara Sobey
> >>
> >> >If anyone in New Zealand is listening and knows Barbara Sobey, who is
> >> >visiting New Zealand now, please let me know so I can correspond to her
> >> >
> >> >Neil
> >> >Michigan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >==== BlaenauGwent Mailing List ====
> >> >
> >> >Gwent/Monmouthshire Information:
> >> >http://www.genuki.org.uk.big/wal/MON
> >> >
> >>
> >> ==== BlaenauGwent Mailing List ====
> >>
> >> Gwent Family History Society
> >> http://www.riggs.ndirect.co.uk/Gwent/FHS/Index.htm
> >
> >
> >==== BlaenauGwent Mailing List ====
> >
> >Gwent/Monmouthshire Information:
> >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON
> >
>
> ==== BlaenauGwent Mailing List ====
>
> Gwent Family History Society
> http://www.riggs.ndirect.co.uk/Gwent/FHS/Index.htm
> *Blaina/Nantyglo website: http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~simon/blaina.html
Jackie,
I'm new at this also, but have done quite a bit of historical research.
Just for information. You put a lot of gr's in that letter. There is a
close connection between the Irish and Scots. They may not want to
admit it but they both are from a Celtic background. It's debateable as
to if the Irish came from Scotland or the Scots came from Ireland.
Mc or Mac means "son of" and be careful of names, back in the old days
the spelling changed considerably and often.
There are a lot areas that you can look, you just have to keep digging.
Neil
Michigan
Slagle wrote:
>
> It seems somewhat strange to me, but I am still new to this, I found out
> that my gr,gr,gr,gr,gr,gr grandfather a McFarland of Ireland(think his
> family came from Scotland, but still working on that) married a Elizabeth
> Kirkpatrick of Wales they went to Greene Co Ohio in 1803. ANy body have
> any clues, and is this a Welsh name. Jackie in ND, USA
> pondrosa(a)minot.ndak.net
> an off genealogy note. The young(13) singer Charlotte Church whos CD just
> was released in the states today is fabulous. I have listened to it 4 times
> today, and will probably go to sleep listening to it tonight.
>
> ==== BlaenauGwent Mailing List ====
>
> Gwent Family History Society
> http://www.riggs.ndirect.co.uk/Gwent/FHS/Index.htm
> *Blaina/Nantyglo website: http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~simon/blaina.html
Apologies to those of you researching common names, but on my
research trips this last week, & in my reading, I've come across a few
snippets concerning some relatively unusual names which have cropped
up in recent mailing lists (Glam or BlaenauGwent); and rather than
ignore them, I've decided to itemise them here (to both lists -
apologies to those who read both), in case anyone wants to chase up
the original source. (I CANNOT AFFORD TO DO FREE LOOK-UPS, SORRY.)
FLOWER(S)
Don't know whether you're interested, Darren, but there was at least
one FLOWER(S) member of the LDS Church, CARDIFF Branch, at some stage
between 1840 and 1892! (I noticed it on LDS film 0104168, which would
give more information.)
WALBEOFF
Loads of entries - at least 7 - in Llanddewi Rhydderch PR 1782-1794 at
least. It's a mixed register, and I saw some marriages & some
baptisms. (There may also have been some burials - I wasn't looking
in those sections.) There were base children being baptised too,
including one naming the father: 1793 Jan 13 bapt Thomas a base child
of Mary Walbeoff and Thomas Prichard - and I think there MAY have been
something else written alongside.
LOVELUCK pedigree:
This is mentioned as a reference used in the compilation of an article
in Glam Journal 16, August 1988; it sounds as though a copy of the
pedigree had been deposited with Glam FHS. The article, by Janet
Hearle, about the Thomas family of Bridgend, includes details of a
Margaret Thomas who married Edward Loveluck at St John's Church
Cardiff in 1845. The couple had 5 sons, 2 daughters, & a very
successful drapery business in Bridgend. One son married a Darling,
niece of the Governor of NSW.
SALMON
Glamorgan FHS Journal 50 June 1998
Assisted Immigrants Inwards to Sydney
Ocean Empress, arrived 18 January 1864
Bertram SALMON aged 28, miner, Westhaigh? [sic] Glam, father dead,
mother Elizabeth alive Curvorin, Glam.
Rachel SALMON aged 29, wife, Westhaigh? [sic] Glam. Both parents
dead.
Ann aged 4 - Esther aged 4 months.
Bertram and Rachel were C of E, could neither read nor write, and had
no relatives in the Colony.
LAKE
1841 Census Llanddewi (Llanthewy) Rhydderch (somewhere within
HO107/0743)
YORATH
Ditto - ie
1841 Census Llanddewi (Llanthewy) Rhydderch (somewhere within
HO107/0743)
Anne Scales
AncestralRoots(a)annescales.freeserve.co.uk
It seems somewhat strange to me, but I am still new to this, I found out
that my gr,gr,gr,gr,gr,gr grandfather a McFarland of Ireland(think his
family came from Scotland, but still working on that) married a Elizabeth
Kirkpatrick of Wales they went to Greene Co Ohio in 1803. ANy body have
any clues, and is this a Welsh name. Jackie in ND, USA
pondrosa(a)minot.ndak.net
an off genealogy note. The young(13) singer Charlotte Church whos CD just
was released in the states today is fabulous. I have listened to it 4 times
today, and will probably go to sleep listening to it tonight.