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If your Blair’s have disappeared from Ayrshire they may be part that went to Aghadowey, County Londonderry (I also assume they went to other Ulster towns as well).
This particular family seems to have gone to Boston, MA in 1718 and then onto Worcester Co., MA at a later time, and the third generation being in western Counties of MA.
I assume that other Ayrshire families have followed a similar migration Path.
From: Mike Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:22 AM
Subject: Blairs of Aghadowey, County Londonderry to MA. in 1718
I am currently writing up parts of the family James Blair and Rebecca Boyd and their first known son Robert Blair, whom married Isabella Rankin.
In early 1700’s parts of this family went to Worcester Co., MA.
By the third generations parts of this family had moved to Williamstown (County not given – assume one of the western Counties of MA) when it cites this publication -
History of Williamstown, Mass., by Prof. Perry for the family of Absalom Blair (I assume that this might be found in various New England Libraries or even in some of the other larger US Libraries
T6 Absalom Blair, b 9/11/1741 (Western, now Warren, Worcester Co., MA)?, d 20/4/1811 ( , Williamstown, Co., MA), bu , Williamstown?, , MA), m / /176x (church, town, county, MA), Martha Young, of the Williamstown Youngs, b 28/10/1742 (town, etc), d 21/1/1829 ( , Williamstown, Co., MA), bu , Williamstown, Co., MA, and had issue:-
So far I have found two other books on this fmaily
1. The Blairs of New England, by Emily Wilder Leavitt, 1900.
2. The Blair family of New England, revisted, by Mary J. Powers, 2008, (of Blandford, MA), 571 p.
As this family “APPEARS” TO HAVE BEEN part of Rev James MacGregor’s migration of 1718, All three books may have other County Antrim families in them that will be of benefit to other researchers.
I have yet to find out if this Blair families part of the Blair’s of that Ilk from Dalry, Ayrshire or form perhaps those Blairs of Adamton. Hopefully next week I can find that out.
House of Boyd Society
Forwarding this email onto the list as I do not think it was intended for me.
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From: Ruth Enns <ruth.enns(a)shaw.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 11:16:54 PM
To: Fiona Harris <fionaeharris(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Ayr File #2
Here is my McConnell file IF you can read it. My printer is faulty but does
NOT need ink......
I have an OPR for the birth of Quentin Jr. born 1820, Dailly, Ayr, AFTER
his Father died.
I cannot track Quentin Jr. or his Mother, Elizabeth BRADBURY, b England,
Not in Dailly, or England where his brother, James Edward, b Fermoy, Cork,
a famous engineer died, young, & has lots of "press", on GOOGLE!
My PRIME interest is Elizabeth BRADBURY whose surname was used many times
for the middle name of children born later in the family.
All I have on her is Elizabeth BRADBURY b 1795 England. As James Edwarsd
became famous, I thought perhaps there would be a book written about him &
thus Elizabeth mentioned.
Do you have any ideas of how I can find MORE re ELIZABETH? Perhaps a book?
( I know you are of the Boyds etc. .) I just picked you out as a
Questions gladly answered. Grasping at straws!!
I was recently sent a reference of “Miss Leavitt’s book – The Blair Family, 1900” which full title is - The Blairs of New England, by Emily Wilder Leavitt, 1900, as outlined in the website - https://archive.org/details/blairfamilynewe00unkngoog/page/n5 - and it says on pages 21- 22 (?) that Rachel Boyd’s family come from Thomas Boyd of Craigs, whom came from Oxfordshire in 1573. With one of his sons moving to Dungiven, Londonderry, and that Rachel Boyd is this son’s granddaughter who lived in Aghadowey.
And as a result of getting that book, I was told about the family of Rachel Boyd and James Blair of Aghadowey.
When I checked with Dr Google, I found about a dozen websites on this family, including
Chestnut Blue - Person Page
Rachel Boyd married James Blair, son of David Blair. Her married name was Blair. Rachel Boyd was born in 1644 at Her married name was Blair. Rachel Boyd was born in 1644 at Aghadowey, Londonderry, Ireland .
Person Page - 781
Which provided this information -
“Thomas Boyd was born in 1620 at Bordstown, Oxfordshire, England. He married Elizabeth Douglas in 1643 at England. Thomas Boyd died in 1699 at Aghadowey, Londonderry, Ireland.”
Family Elizabeth Douglas b. 1623
o Rachel Boyd+ b. 1644, d. 10 Mar 1700
This date of death of 1699 and location of Aghadowey, would suggest that this “Thomas Boyd” is the same person as Rev Thomas Boyd, the second Minister of Aghadowey, who in took a company of his congregation to assist in defending the City of Londonderry in 1689 and stayed the whole siege.
This is the first time that I have seen a birth date for him, his location of birth, his marriage date and his wife’s name. (At this time, I have nothing to compare if this data is correct or not.
While with this Thomas Boyd, from other websites, he is said to be the grandson of a Thomas Boyd whom came to Craigs, County Antrim in 1573 from Oxfordshire and his ancestry can be trace to Lord Robert Boyd, Regent of Scotland in 1466-1469. (Unfortunately, it does not tell us what this linkage is.) So, the Elizabeth Douglas MIGHT ALSO THE WIFE OF THE GRANDFATHER rather than Rev Thomas Boyd.
I think in this “chestnut-blue.com” website has “confused” Rev Thomas Boyd of Aghadowey’s LOCATION OF BIRTH, with that of this grandfather, but at this time I have no way of proving or disproving this.)
However, if Thomas Boyd, the grandfather, whom came to Craigs in 1573 – WAS BORN IN OXFORDSHIRE – DOES THIS MEAN THAT OTHER PEOPLE FROM OXFORDSHIRE MIGHT HAVE ALSO SETTLED IN COUNTY ANTRIM IN THE 1570’S AS WELL?
Do any list members know of any such migration from England in the 1570’s?
Some of these website’s imply that this Blair family came from Ayrshire, rather than Perthshire. But that will require a lot more work to confirm its origins in Scotland and when they may have settled in Ireland and where.
It is also suggested that in about 1718 that this James Blair, his children and grandchildren went to Boston, MA and then settled in Worcester County, MA. I have not yet had time to read this book carefully, but this first impression would suggest that they were mart of Rev James MacGregor’s five ships of 1718. If so, I assume that they are now part of The 1718 Project that Colin Brooks is involved with. And he may be able to confirm this linage or if they sailed for Boston, MA shortly after this migration
Hopefully others can add to this Boyd/Blair/Douglas family?
House of Boyd Society
Does anyone have an Blair family form Ayrshire that settled in Aghadowey, County Londonderry or Northern Ireland in the 1600’s?
In a private group that in an involved with about a family in the Ards Peninuslar this website site was posted -
Worth reading about the early Scots in Northern Ireland.
It also covers the “religious Wars/troubles in Scotland.
It has this reference
The "Killing Times"
The period from 1680 until 1685 was one of the fiercest in terms of persecution and a few months between 1684-5 became forever known as the "Killing Times". Charles' brother James II had come to the throne, he was a believer in the Divine Right of Kings and a supporter of the Roman Catholic faith. It became his sworn intent to totally eradicate the Presbyterians.
Parish Lists were drawn up in accordance with instructions to the Episcopalian Curates to furnish Nominal Rolls of all persons, male and female, over the age of 12 within their Parishes. The Ministers were ordered to give "..a full and complete Roll of all within the Parish" and "that to their Knowledge they give Account of all Disorders and Rebellions, and who are guilty of them, Heritors or others.." Their instructions concluded, "..No remarks need be made upon these Demands made upon every Curate in every Parish; they are plain enough, as also their Design.." The 'design' of this census was obviously to assist in the control and persecution of the Covenanters. The list drawn up for Wigtownshire in 1684, featured a total of 9,276 individuals in the 19 Parishes and was probably ordered by John Grahame of Claverhouse who had been appointed the Sheriff of Wigtownshire.”
This is the first time that I was aware that such a Census had been taken in 1680’s
Does anyone know if these Parish Rolls have “ever” been published? If so, in what publication? And what data is provided besides names and address?
I have 2 Jennet Murray McKnight's in my tree--one born to John McKnight &
Katherine Ranken (Rankine) in 1799 in New Cumnock and the other born to
George McKnight and Susanna Ranken (Rankine) in 1798 in New Cumnock also.
Susanna and Katherine were sisters. My question is which girl married which
guy? I have searched on ScotlandsPeople with no results and have looked at
the FamilySearch information as well. I do know the daughter of John and
Katherine died 21 Oct 1835 from the inscription of the grave marker for her
mother. The other Jennet's death I can not find. The one who married James
Kerr died before 1861 when their son James was married (from SP-mother was
deceased). Some other trees I have looked don't have any sources as to who
was married to whom--some have Jennet(1799) married to Kerr, others to
Howatson. Can anyone help me get this straightened out. I would sure
appreciate any help, Anne.
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Recently I was sent page 92 of “SCOTCH IRISH PIONEERS IN ULSTER AND AMERICA”, BY CHARLES KNOWLES BOLTON, 1910” where it says at the bottom of that page
“^mong the Fasti are William Boyd, 1709, and Adam Boyd,
1711. References to the. Boyds may be found in Miss Leavitt's The Blair Family (1900). “
I assume the first word is Among”
Have any members of this list seen this book on the “Blairs” – and which part of the Blairs does it cover, only those in Ireland or does it also cover the Blairs in Ayrshire and other parts of Scotland?
I would also be interested in what is says about Rev William Boyd, 1709 and Rev Adam Boyd of 1711 to see where they may fit into
Thank you for your assistance
Any member of this list that are also on the Blair Net list may like to post this message onto that list as well, please
In the book “SCOTCH IRISH PIONEERS IN ULSTER AND AMERICA”, BY CHARLES KNOWLES BOLTON, 1910, it “CLAIMS” that the Scotch-Irish first went to America in 1718, with the five ships of Rev MacGregor’s migration to Boston, MA.
This is completely INCORRECT!
I am aware of a John Boyd and his brother, Adam Boyd, later Rev Adam Boyd of Upper Octorara, Chester County, PA arriving in early 1714. Their history between 1692, when Adam Boyd was born in Ballymoney, County Antrim and 1714 is not known and it has been assumed that they both left Antrim to go to PENN in 1714. This John Boyd married in 1715 to a Miss Craig, and they moved to the Craig Irish settlement in 1729 in Bucks County, PENN. Then the northern most county of PENN. Adam Boyd has returned home to Antrim and became a Presbyterian Minister in about 1722 or 1723 and in 1724 returned to Boston, MA before coming to PENN.
At this time, the Boyd researchers assume that other people had come from Ireland (and or Antrim) to PENN before them.
It is known that after 1718 that Quaker Boyd did settle in PENN. However, at this time we do not know if Quaker Boyd arrived before 1714.
Does anyone have any “additional history” or their own family history to know if Quakers came to PENN before 1714? And did any other non-Quaker families come to PENN. before 1714? So that this incorrect statement by Bolton can be back up by known family facts.
Thank you for your assistance
House of Boyd Society
The family of Anne Boyd and Henry Miller of Ballyhalbert, County Down.
Over a decade ago, I was sent a list of Boyd graves in various County Down cemeteries. One of the 20 Boyd graves listed for the Ballyhalbert Cemetery was –
“Henry Miller, Ballyhalbert, died 18-3-1737 aged 62 years
Anne (wife) (alias) died 7-4-1771 aged 79 years
Esther Miller (daughter?) (wife of John Haslett) died 9-1-1790 aged 71 years”
I had assumed that the wife’s name was Boyd, but did not know for sure.
However, this week I was sent this private message, which did confirm that Henry Miller’s wife was Anne Boyd -
Here lyeth the body of Henry Miller late of B/halbert who died March the 18th 1737 aged 62 yrs Born 1675
Also his wife Anne Miller alias BOYD who died April the 7th day 1771 aged 79 yrs. BORN 1692
Also the body of Esther Miller wife to John HASLETT who died Jan. 9th 1790 aged 71 yrs. BORN 1729
BALLYHALBERT OLD GRAVEYARD
(TABLET ON WALL)
Here underneath lyeth the body of ye Revrent John M Murray who departed this life January the 9th 1730 aged 32yrs.
He was the first Mineister ordained in ye Parish of Ballyhalbert the meeting house being built in 1721.
The whole of his time of ye Parish was 6 years 1 month & 24 days. & died in (sequence) much lamented of his hearers. Done by Robert MILLER.”
And it would appear that from the second gravestone that Henry Miller was a “stonemason”, all, or part, of the time. (He may have built houses full time, and did gravestone when required! As indicated by the second gravestone!)
This gravestone does not indicate which Boyd family around “Ballyhalbert” that this Anne Boyd may have come from. There are “several” Boyd families in this area of County Down. It does tell us that she was 17 years younger than her husband Henry Miller and it would suggest that “Esther Miller wife to John HASLETT” was the daughter of Anne and Henry Miller. If that is the case, it would mean that Anne was 37 years of when Esther Miller was born and therefore most likely in the second half of Henry and Anne’s children of an un-known number.
However, the stone does not tell us if this marriage by Henry Miller was his second marriage and what other children they may have had in addition to Esther? While Anne could have married Henry anything from about 1706, when she was only 14 years old until her twenties, in 1716, so it is somewhat hard to estimate how many children they might have had or if Anne’s mother might have been “Esther Boyd”.
Nor does it tell us what children Esther Miller and John Haslett may have also had themselves. Or if their children may have migrated?
From the gravestone of Anne Boyd and Henry Miller, where it says they were from Ballyhalbert, so does this mean the village; the townland or the Parish of that name? I would assume, from the other gravestones, they are from the townland of Ballyhalbert.
I would like to hear from you if you are researching anyone of these families of BOYD, MILLAR or HASLETT in Ballyhalbert, the Ards Peninsular or even the whole of County Down.
House of Boyd Society
You must keep in mind, when you are searching a name in the O.P.R.'s, that illiteracy was very common leading up to the mid 1800’s. Recorders had some measure of education, but the populace for which they were making the records could not write, therefore could not correct the spelling of a name being written by the recorder.
In my research of my ancestors named RICHMOND, I found over 20 variations in the spelling. So be broad minded when reading old records, and don’t ignore a record that does not match your preconceived idea of how your ancestors name should be spelled.
Sure, it creates a little more work to verify if it is an individual who belongs in your tree. But you are more likely to get a broader picture of your family history.
George M. McCaig,
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Further to my private reply to you, I will post this information to the Ayrshire Net list.
For those on the Ayrshire list – there is a clan Snodgrass – and the various websites mention -
“The Village Snodgrass is located on the last bend of the river Garnock in Ayrshire, Scotland before it joins the river Irvine at the town of Irvine and immediately enters the Irish Sea.”
This is now part of the Chemical Works on the east side of the Garnock river and between the railway line, just east of Stevenson and south of the A 78 Road. It is only about 3 kms SW of Eglington Castle, the home of the Montgomery chiefs. The Boyd lands were to the north in Dalry and to the North-West in West Kilbride, so this may be where – for whatever reason – that the Snodgrass and Boyds became linked. And this would put it about 6 kms NW of Irvine, where quite a number of Boyds were merchants, ships master, and other town occupations. And we know that a number of Boyds from Irvine, did go to Ireland and later onto the USA. These lands of Pitcon and Portincross – I understand – were given by Robert the Bruce in 1306, so this Boyd – Snodgrass connection could go back some hundreds of years.
I would estimate that this location is right in the middle of the Montgomery Lands.
However, at this time I am not quite sure why Snodgrass DNA is in at least three know Boyd families from the 1700’s in the USA.
The closest known Boyd Cadet Branch were the Boyd of Pitcon, about a mile north of Dalry, about 5 miles north. However, there were also Boyds living in Irvine – about 30 families in the 1691 Hearth Tax List – whom appear to be tradesmen, merchants or Sea Captains. So this linkage may stem from one of those families as how Snodgrass DNA was passed down a Boyd family.
MY GUESS IS THAT THESE SNODGRASS DNA – BY WHAT EVER MEANS – WAS PASSED DOWN WELL BEFORE 1700.
For any Boyds researching, it may mean that this Archibald Boyd of Chester County, SC; the John Boyd and Ann Logan family who came from County Antrim in 1762 to Albany, NY and the Boyd family of Kirkcowan, who were John’s cousins and also came to Albany, NY in the 1770’s may all have come from the Irvine and or Pitcon area of Ayrshire.
If you have any Snodgrass connections, please contact Charles privately as I am sure that he is not yet on this net list.
From: charles boyd
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 3:34 AM
To: 'Mike Boyd'
Subject: Boyd DNA
I hope that you are well.
Recall that for 3+ decades I have been looking for the ascendants of Archibald Boyd, b c1763, d. 1820, Chester County, SC. While we have a lot of information about his descendants, we know very little about him prior to the time when he was 41 years old and purchased land, creating the first public record that we have found so far.
Several years ago I had my DNA tested with FamilyTreeDNA, and their expert’s assessment was that my DNA profile does not compare to the Boyd DNA profile, but, rather, conforms to the Snodgrass/Snoddy DNA profile.
Soon after that discovery, I set out to find the “event” that caused Archibald Boyd to change his name to Snodgrass/Snoddy, and was able to create a theory that included an out-of-wedlock birth, and the subsequent taking of the Boyd surname of the young man’s caretakers.
Now, a second Boyd line has been tested and that line has the same Snodgrass/Snoddy DNA profile. This line has been traced back to John Boyd, b. 25 Nov 1725 in Antrim, Antrim, NI, d. 6 Jul 1799 in Johnstown, Fulton, NY, m. Ann Logan 1757 in Antrim, Antrim, NI. Ann was born in 1739 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland, d. 9 Feb 1815 in Albany, NY.
Like Archibald Boyd’s, this John Boyd’s descendants are well documented.
This second Boyd line with a non-Boyd DNA profile that matches my non-Boyd DNA places the time for the “event” earlier than 1700 and prior to their immigration to America; I’m now looking for an event that occurred in Northern Ireland or Scotland. The odds of their being two separate events is nil because the two lines of DNA are so similar. Obviously, my “theory” about Archibald is no longer valid.
I know that the Boyds “borrowed” the surname Hay at a time when being a Boyd was usually fatal, so I’m also now looking at a circumstance like that as being the “event.”
If you would, please look at your records and tell me:
· Was there a time in Scotland or Northern Ireland that the Boyds assumed the surname Snodgrass or Snoddy?
· Can you identify the ascendants of John Boyd, b. 25 Nov 1725 in Antrim, Antrim, NI?
· Do you have any record (other than mine) that documents an Archibald Boyd who died in 1820 in Chester, SC?
Dear Mike, Bonnie and fellow researchers,
This a very interesting question and had time to pop in to Edinburgh University library today and check Prof Charles Withers book on Gaelic in Scotland. I thought these brief notes might be helpful.
Linguistically Scotland is a nation of many languages: English, Gaelic, Scots, French, Cumbric, Pictish and a Norse variant called Norn. (Withers, 1984, p1)
The Kingdom of Strathclyde in the west was a Cumbric speaking region. This is an ancient language derived from Old Welsh and was spoken in lowland Scotland and northern England – the Old North (including Cumbria). Cumbric place names have a central and SW distribution in Scotland. (Withers, 1984, pp16-17)
Gaelic was the language of the Scotti – people of Irish origin. It declined in use from the late 11th century to late 1500s. Scotland north of a line between the Forth and Clyde was chiefly settled by Gaelic speakers (known as Scotia until about 1250). There’s little evidence for the extent Gaelic was actually spoken in the Middle Ages. Gaelic had ‘superimposed’ itself upon languages such as Pictish, Cumbric, Norn and Anglian. The language spoken by a dominant political group is not necessarily the language spoken by everyone. It varies from place to place, but Ayrshire is thought by Withers to have been relatively less permanently and less densely settled by Gaelic speakers. (Withers, 1984, pp16-18)
“…at no period within early and medieval Scotland was Gaelic everywhere understood and used as a spoken language for all purposes by all persons. …there was never a time when every person north of the Tweed spoke only Gaelic and swore allegiance only to a Gaelic-speaking lord.” (Withers, 1984, p18)
Later on in the book Withers states Gaelic was the common language of the north and NW of Scotland and the border between English-speaking and Gaelic-speaking should be seen as a diffuse zone. (Withers, 1984, p37)
One of the research tasks Withers undertook was systematically going through the Statistical Accounts (OSA and NSA) for reports on the state of Gaelic. Nothing is noted under Ayrshire in the OSA reports, but in the New Statistical Account 1831-1845 Withers found a single mention under Ardrossan parish (1837): Gaelic church at Saltcoats built at cost of £1,000, 720 sittings for the use of the many Highland families in the area. (Withers, 1984, p311) For comparison, Argyll had 25 entries.
So, Gaelic speakers in nineteenth-century Ayrshire were probably migrants who had relatively recently left the Highlands.
Withers, C. (1984). Gaelic in Scotland, 1698-1981: The geographical history of a language. Edinburgh: John Donald.
Academic biography: https://www.thebritishacademy.ac.uk/fellows/charles-withers-FBA
For those interested in Cumbric and the Old North there are some enthusiasts around. I have no idea how reliable these sources are.
Best wishes, Kay
Dr JK Williams
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From: Mike Boyd
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 4:05 PM
Subject: The family of John Boyd and Ann Logan of County Antrim, who in 1762 went to Albany, NY
I have the family of John Boyd and Ann Logan of County Antrim who married there in 1757 and in 1762 moved to Albany, NY
R1 John Boyd, b 15/11/1725 (Ireland), d 6/7/1799 (Johnstown, N. Y.), bu Johnstown, m / /1757 (church, Co. Antrim, Ireland), Ann Logan, dau of and (nee ) Logan, b 1739, d 9/2/1815 (Albany, N. Y.), bu Johnstown, N. Y., and had issue:-
From Kilmarnock Church Records, see Doug Brown's comments under John (R1)
Information from Doug Brown's Email of 8 December 1998 saying that first three children born in Co. Antrim. WHERE?
I also have these IGI entries that “might be” this John Boyd’s birth -
The 1994 IGI for the UK has the following entry for a John Boyd whose spouse was Ann Logan. This might be the same couple as above. It should be noted that this source has John born in Scotland but does not give his parents.
John BOYD (M)............ B: 1725 B: 12 Jun 1941 SLAKE F#: 183591 @
Spouse: Ann LOGAN , , Scotland E: Pre-1970 P#: 2291
SP: Pre-1970 O#: 47831
This is from a private tree and this type of entry normally indicates that the person does not know John Boyd’s parents.
I then looked at the IGI to see if there was any John Boyd’s born on 25 Nov 1725 in Antrim, County Antrim and found these two entries for Scotland and one in about 1725 in Irleand but none for the dates you have given.
John BOYD (M)............. B: 15 Nov 1725 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7401105 9
Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 7 Nov 1946 ALBER So: 934309
Mother: Mary MILLAR SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN
John BOYD (M).............. B: 25 Nov 1725 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7005510 62
Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 7 Nov 1946 ALBER So: 538352
Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN
John BOYD (M).................. B: Abt 1725 B: 24 Nov 1945 ARIZO F#: 450975 @
Rel: William Dolphus SPEER , , Ireland E: 4 Jan 1950 ARIZO
(no parents listed) SP: Pre-1970 O#: 18846
At this time I would not be confident that any of these are this John Boyd’s birth in Ireland.
Do any members of this list know this Boyd and Logan family?
Do do know that Ann Logan and had a bother and sister -
R2 James Logan, b 17xx, d 1784, m ?
- settled in the Champlain Co., New York.
R3 Agnes Logan, b 17xx, d 18xx, m 1762, John Rogers, son of Rogers, b 17xx, d 18xx, and had issue:- ?
- Accompanied the emigration to America, having been married the day of their sailing in the Spring of 1762. In the 1790’s he established a saw mill in partnership with John Boyd (R1).
And that Ann Logan is said to have been born in 1739 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire. But I am not quite sure of this birth location.
If you belong to the Logan Net list feel free to post it to that net list as well.
A member of the Family of Archibald Boyd (1763-1820) of Chester County, SC says that his family and this family of John Boyd and Ann Logan, both have Snodgrass DNA. At this time, I can only assume that happened in Scotland pre 1725.
Thank you for your assistance
House of Boyd Society
As many of you will know Ayrshire was – after 1200 or even before then – settled by Anglo-Norman families.
So the question – was Gaelic ever spoken there after 1200 A. D.?
One version of the Boyds origins is that it taken from the Gaelic spelling for the Isle of Bute. I think that name is “Buidhe”.
Simon – whom it is said was the father of Sir Robert Boyd, the first of the known Boyd family Chiefs.
In the various Ayrshire histories that I have seen in the last few decades, I can’t recall any thing be given on what language was spoken in Ayrshire form 1200. I have seen some documents in Latin and a I assume Old Scots or even a form of French might have been used in the 1100’s as well
House of Boyd Society
Hi ListI have above name in my tree, documented in OPRs, but it appears to be a rare name.. Is it possible that it is a name the evolved with errors in spelling? this is not an index with transcriptions but actual records on SP.
I have Marrion Sterrat (spelling from record) marrying Alan Bowie in KIlwinning Ayr in 1827, but they moved to Johnstone in Renfrew. I have them from there to US. I cannot find Marrion/Marion's birth in OPR's under any spelling but the soundex on Scotland's People included hundreds of Stewarts.
I have a DNA match to a Stirret which I am presuming is the same line with different spelling. They do not have their line back as far as mine so I cannot find the match,,,,,yet.
Any suggestions?Janet Bowie Morgan
The Boyd article in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography summarises this subject. It is by Dr Ronald J Tanner who was co-editor (medieval) of the Records of the Scottish Parliament https://www.rps.ac.uk, has authored books on this period and is now a specialist historical publisher (Tanner Ritchie Publishing).
“...Thomas Boyd first earl of Arran (d. before 1474), had been contracted on 20 January 1466 to marry Lord Kennedy's daughter, as part of Lord Boyd's wooing of the Kennedy regime. Instead, following the July 1466 coup, he was married to Princess Mary (b. 1451), elder sister of James III, and created earl of Arran by his father's influence, shortly before 26 April 1467. The marriage was undoubtedly unpopular, particularly with the king who later claimed to have wept at the wedding, as it was seen as a waste of a valuable dynastic commodity, not to mention an insult to the royal family. Arran's most important public role was as one of the ambassadors who concluded the treaty of Copenhagen in September 1468. When the Boyds fell in the summer of 1469 Arran was still abroad, and he was forfeited on 22 November. In October 1471 Arran, Lord Boyd, and Princess Mary attempted to return to Scotland. After stopping first in England, Mary went ahead, but was detained by the king. She was subsequently married to James, Lord Hamilton (d. 1479), a rising star in James III's council, probably following Arran's death, which took place in England, before 1474.”
Tanner, R. (2004, September 23). Boyd family (per. c. 1300–c. 1480), landowners and administrators. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Retrieved 6 Jul. 2019, from https://www-oxforddnb-com.ezproxy.is.ed.ac.uk/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/97801....
You can usually get access via a library.
Dr Norman Macdougall, former senior lecturer in Scottish history at the University of St Andrews, wrote the entry on James III:
“The Boyds' greed proved their undoing. ... The marriage of James III and Margaret of Denmark (1456/7?–1486) took place at Holyrood on 13 July 1469, and coincided with the flight of the Boyds—Thomas, earl of Arran, and his wife, Mary Stewart, and later Robert, Lord Boyd—to Bruges. In a very full assembly of parliament in November 1469 the Boyds were forfeited, and Sir Alexander Boyd of Drumcoll, who had imprudently remained in Scotland, was beheaded. At the age of seventeen James III took control of his government.”
Macdougall, N. (2008, January 03). James III (1452–1488), king of Scots. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Retrieved 6 Jul. 2019, from https://www-oxforddnb-com.ezproxy.is.ed.ac.uk/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/97801... .
Dr Alan R. Borthwick, head of medieval records at the National Records of Scotland, wrote the ODNB entry about James II and notes this about the quality of source material available for the period and accounts written after the events:
“The unevenness of the surviving documentation hinders the task of the biographer of James II. The crown's own records, partly legal and partly financial, leave important questions unanswered. The sole significant contemporary chronicle, that of Auchinleck, is scrappy and disconnected, and offers few clear opinions about the king or anyone else. Only with the writers of the early sixteenth century and later do distinct impressions of James begin to emerge. They are strikingly and consistently favourable.”
Borthwick, A. (2010, January 07). James II (1430–1460), King of Scots. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Retrieved 6 Jul. 2019, from https://www-oxforddnb-com.ezproxy.is.ed.ac.uk/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/97801....
The main modern biography of James II is by Dr Christine McGladdery of the University of St Andrews.
That of James III is by Dr Norman Macdougall.
Best wishes, Kay
Dr JK Williams, Edinburgh
In early June I was at the LDS Library at Salt Lake City and found quite a number of books on Boyd families.
One of those that I was looking for were the Boyds of Bonshaw, in Stewarton Parish, Ayrshire.
For memory, I did not find anything on this family. So during the last week, I have had a “first” look at material that I have copies since 2005 form my trip to the UK, but in the various books – such as George Robertson’s book of 1820’s and James Patterson’s book f the 1850’s and 1860’s, I could not find “BONSHAW” listed in any of the contents or families that I could find.
Does anyone know if this Boyd family is listed in any of these early Ayrshire Family Histories?
I did find that a Mary Boyd of Bonshaw was the mistress of James Hamilton, first (Hamilton) Earl of Arran and had at least one son, James Hamilton of Finnart.
This Mary Boyd, may be the third un-named sister of three sisters of Bonshaw in the late 1400’s.
But I will need to go through the various Hamilton Book in August after my own Boyd family hold their fourth family re-union on Saturday 27 July.
Thank you for your assistance
This is a article that I have just finished for the Boyd list and sent it to the Editor of Dean Road our quarterly magazine.
This is an “initial” article on when and whom Princess Mary Stewart – eldest sister of James III – and her two marriages. There appear to be a number of false claims about her marriage (but if a Boyd was writing this history in 1469, I assume we would have a far “view”.)
I still would not claim that this view by Crawford in 1710 is the final position and I have made a number of observations at the end of this article. But I am sure that others will have “other data” to add to this account.
And if you are on the Hamilton Net list or Stewart Net list or the Percy Net list form Northumberland, England feel free forward this article onto those list so that more data can be found and looked at to see if it will provide further data to this question.
And if James III’s children had not survived we may have had a BOYD or HAMILTON as King of Scotland and now of the UK.
King James II, eldest daughter, Princess Mary Stewart and her two husbands.
For some decades, many of the Boyd descendants and I have believed that there were two versions as to what happened to Princes Mary Stewart’s marriage to Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran and eldest surviving son of Lord Robert Boyd.
One version is that Thomas Boyd died in Europe and Mary Stewart returned to Scotland. The second version is that she came back to Scotland to try to get her brother (King James III) to pardon her husband, but the King held her captive and forced her to divorce Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran, and to marry the elderly James Hamilton.
Both of these version sound quite possible.
In the book A Genealogical History of the Royal and Illustrious Family of the Stewarts, From the year 1034 to year 1710; … to which are prefixed, first, A General Description of The Shire of Renfrew, …, 1710 and on pages 165 and 166, I found this account of these events, after listing her three brothers -
“IV. Mary, married Thomas Master of Boyd, , son and heir of Robert Lord Boyd, Chancellor and Governour of Scotland, in King James III’s minority; a youth of extraordinary endowments, both of body and mind; with her he obtained the Isle of Arran and many other lands, , and was created into the dignity of Earl of Arran, an. 1467. But in 1468, being commissioned ambassador to Denmark, to attend Margaret, daughter of Christian King of Denmark, , King James III’s Queen, home to Scotland, his greatness procured him envy; and, in his absence, his enemies plotted his ruin. Robert Lord Boyd his father, and Sir Alexander Boyd his uncle, were summoned to answer such points as should be exhibited against them in Parliament; , and were declared enemies to the State. Robert Lord Boyd retired to England, an. 1469, where he, in a very short time, ended his days.  Sir Alexander, his brother, was challenged and convicted, , of treasonable carrying his Majesty in person, against his inclination, on his way to the Castle of Callender, to Edinburgh; , which Sir Alexander offering to produce an Act of Parliament for, approving it good service, (and is yet extant,) it was kept, and he condemned to lose his head; which sentence was execute on him. [8.] Thomas Earl of Arran, arriving with the Queen in the Firth, , in July 1469, and preparing himself to come ashore, resolving to throw himself upon the King’s clemency; his lady coming to him disguised, gave him particular information of the circumstances of his family, the weakness of his interest at Court, and the many snares laid by his enemies to cut him off; and, resolving to partake with him in his misfortunes, returned back to Denmark, from thence to France, and thereafter to Antwerp. King James writes to his sister very kindly to return home: the Lady believing her presence might influence the King her brother to restore her husband to his favour, comes for Scotland, leaving him at Antwerp, where, in a very short time, he died; , leaving issue by the said Lady Mary his wife, James, who by the bounty of his uncle was restored to the dignity of Lord Boyd, , and to the lands of Kilmarnock, Dalry, Kilbride, Nodsdale, & in 1482; but he was killed, in a feud, by the Montgomeries, an 1487, and died without succession. . He had likeways a daughter, Margaret, married first unto Alexander Lord Forbes; and surviving him, she remarried with David first Earl of Cassils, but had not any succession.
In the year 1474, some two years after the death of Thomas Earl of Arran, the Lady Mary was, by the King her brother, given in marriage to James Lord Hamilton; by whom she had James Lord Hamilton, and a daughter, Elizabeth, married to Matthew first Earl of Lenox, of whom that illustrious family descended. Which James Lord Hamilton, nephew to King James III. obtained from King James IV. The Isle of Arran, as a gratification to him for his great charge in negeiating the King’ marriage with Margaret, daughter of King Henry VII. and was created by him the dignity of Earl of Arran, the 9th day of January 1503. . James Earl of Arran, his son, was declared Governor of Scotland, upon the death of King James V. during the minority of Queen Mary; and by an Act of Parliament, declared successor to the Throne, if the Queen died without issue. He was honoured with the title of Duke of Chatlerault, by King Henry II. of France, in 1548. He stood firm to the interest of Queen Mary, until his death, which happened the 22d of January 1576.”
Mike Boyd’s Notes/Questions:-
 This Thomas Boyd appears to be the second son and eldest surviving son of Lord Robert Boyd and Mariota (or Janet), daughter of Sir John Maxwell of Calderwood from this comment in History of the County of Ayr, with a Genealogical Account of the Families of Ayrshire, Vol 1I., James Paterson, 1852, page 280 for the Kennedy's, where it says –
"8. Marion, who was contracted to marry John, son of heir of William Wallace of Craigie, by indenture dated 12th April 1459; and was also contracted to marry James, eldest son of Robert Lord Boyd, in 1465."
This would suggest that Lord Boyd had an elder son named, James Boyd, who has died before April 1467, when his second son, Thomas Boyd, married Princess Mary Stewart, and after 14 April 1465.
 On 26 April 1467, Thomas Boyd was created Earl of Arran. (I assume that this is the date of his marriage to Princess Mary Stewart but have no other evidence to that effect.) While in The Scots Peerage Founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, ed Sir James Balfour Paul, Volume V, 1908, pp 147-149, says:-
"THOMAS, Earl of Arran, is first mentioned in 1467, when he was, by his father's influence, married to the Lady Mary, sister of the reigning King, (then a minor), James III., and created Earl of Arran by charter dated 26 April. Though this was the customary method of creating Scottish earldoms at that date, 'the form of the erection of the earldom of Arran was somewhat peculiar,' (See note by R. R. Stodart, Lyon Clerk Depute, The Complete Peerage, i. 132) four charters being simultaneously granted, 26 April 1467, to Thomas, Master of Boyd, the designed Earl, and Mary, his wife. (Reg. Mag. Sig., i. Nos. 912-915.)
The first of these conveyed the isle of Arran, within the sheriffdom of Bute,
the second the lands of Stewartoun, Tarrinzean, Turnberry, and Risedalemure, in Ayrshire, and Meikle Cumrey, in Bute;
the third Cavertoun, in Roxburghshire, Teling in Forfarshire and Polgavy, in Perthshire,
and the last Kilmarnock, Dalry, Kilbride, Nodesdale, Monfudd and Flat, in Ayrshire, and Naristoun, in Lanarkshire, on the resignation of his father.
He sat in Parliament 16 October 1467. …”
There were other Boyd lands that were in the hands of some of the other Cadet Branches of Clan Boyd that are not listed hear, but that will need be another article.
 It is my understanding that Princes Margaret of Denmark, was married in Denmark before she came to Scotland and that Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran “stood in” for King James III at this first of two weddings.
 What date was this summons? In 1469 – when?
 Some sources say that he died in 1472 at Alnwick, England, which was one of the castles of the Dukes of Northumberland, the Perry’s. However, you will notice below that Thomas and Mary’s son, James Boyd was in 1482 made Lord Boyd by King James III, his uncle – thus suggesting that his grandfather did not die until about that time and not in 1472. (I feel that the Duke of Northumberland put the former Robert Lord Boyd, who was the sole regent of Scotland for 3 years, to work in his employment, but have yet to find any evidence to that effect and might even be buried at Alnwick.)
 What date was he “challenged” and when was he “convicted” of treason? I have been told that he was executed on the fore court before the Gates of Edinburgh Castle, (but I can’t find that source at present). I think that I have seen that date of execution as November 1469. So, this does not link with the Queen’s arrival in June 1469, when this plot to over throw the Boyd’s is said to have taken place.
 I have seen a publication by the East Ayrshire Council, published in the 1980’s, in which an article outlined this “taking” of King James III to Edinburgh Castle and it listed a number of other nobles how were involved. Were any of those people also brought before Parliament at this time in 1469 and also executed?
 What date was this execution? (Mike Boyd think he has seen the date November 1469!)
 I have seen a report that the Earl of Arran stood in for the marriage in Denmark for King James III.
 What date is this? According to The Scots Peerage, Volume V, pp 147-148, 1907, it says -
“A marriage treaty having been arranged with the Princess Margaret of Denmark, he proceeded with a noble train to escort her to Scotland. Returning July 1469, his wife hastened on board to apprise him of the change in the King's feelings, and having landed the Princess, he immediately sailed back to Denmark accompanied by his wife. He was attainted along with his father 22 November 1469. Here all certainty as to his movements ends. Buchanan, (Hist. of Scotland, ii 133), says that he passed through Germany to France and Burgundy, where he sought service with Charles the Bold, and died at Antwerp, where a magnificent monument was erected to his memory. In an undated letter of John Paston, (Paston Letters, iii. 47), to Sir John Paston, he is referred to in terms of the highest eulogy as 'the most courteous, gentlest, wisest, kindest, most companionable, freest, largest, most bounteous knight'; and as 'one of the lightest, deliverst, best spoken, fairest archer, devoutest, most perfect, and truest to his lady, of all the knights that ever' the writer 'was acquainted with.' Fenn conjectures that the letter was written in 1470 or 1472; but the expression 'my Lord the Earl of Arran, which has married the King's sister of Scotland,' coupled with the absence of any reference to the sudden precipitation of the family from supreme power, would seem to argue an earlier date. (Dict. Nat. Biog..) Whatever the actual date may be, he was then in London, lodging at the George in Lombard street, his wife apparently with him. The date of his death is unknown, but is conjectured to have occurred before 1474.”
This date of being “attained” on 22 November 1469 is not consistent with him being “attained” before he returned to Edinburgh with the Queen in July 1469. These dates will require further research to confirm this sequence of events in 1469.
 A number of Scottish historians, say that Princes Mary Stewart was “forced” to marry Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran. This may be initially true, but despite the date of his arrival back in Scotland with James III’s Queen from Denmark, it is quite clear that Princes Mary advised her husband, Thomas Boyd, not to come ashore and most likely be executed by her brother, but actually “fled” with him to Denmark and then had two children with him before she, herself, returned to Scotland (it is not known if the children came with her or not) to plead her husbands case. This does not sound like a case of forced marriage.
 In about 2008, I was told by Mrs Clarkson of Seamill, Ayrshire, (an Ayrshire local historian), that he had been killed, to stop the Boyds from being Kings of Scotland, in the event that James III’s children might have died without any issue. His death took place at Irvine, Ayrshire, and a number of others on both sides were killed with him. (I have yet to find any known list of those that were killed in this “incident”. The Earl of Eglintoun, was his cousin and not his uncle as is often stated is said to have killed him.
 It is not clear whom held Arran after Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran forfeited these land sin 1469 and after Princes Mary Stewart was said to have been forced to marry the much older James Hamilton, Lord Hamilton. And it is not clear why it was not until 9 January 1503 that her son by Lord Hamilton was created Earl of Arran. This title seems to have been passed through a number of families.
This account of Princes Mary Stewart’s marriages, given in 1710, seems to say that both versions are true and the events followed each other, with Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran, have died in Belgium, there was no need for a divorce so that the King could force her to marry James Hamilton, Lord Hamilton..
There are other conflicting claims that Princes Mary Stewart – when she returned to Scotland in either 1472 or 1474 – has held capture in Dean Castle, Kilmarnock. While another version says that she was held at Law Castle, West Kilbride, Ayrshire. It has been said by some sources that this castle was built by the Boyds as a home for Princess Mary Stewart, but as Thomas married her in about April 1467 and the Boyds are said to have been overthrown in late 1469, I do not think that there would be enough time for the Boyds to build this castle in this time gap. (Over a decade ago, I did find "several" dates in the second half of the 1400’s when this castle was built, with one as late as about 1485. However, that will require further research to outline all these various claims of when it was build and by whom.)
If you are on either the Hamilton, Stewart, or Percy rootsbweb.com net list, feel free to post this message to those lists, so that any additional data can be added to this story and to “try” to determine what might be the more creditable story is.
This account of Princess Mary Stewart’s marriages seems to be the best account to date, but that, I assume, will not stop other versions (or data) being found over the next few months by other researchers and it seems that more work still need to be done to get a more complete picture of these events and dates.
Thank you for any additional information that you can find or add to this story. And as set out hear, only one Boyd was ever made “Earl of Arran” – Thomas Boyd – so watch out for those sources say the “Boyds” were “Earls of Arran”. That is not true
House of Boyd Society
This private Email between a group of Boyd researchers who had family from Ballyhalbert, County Down and went to New York State in the 1750’s, may help both Ross and Wallace families find some parts of their families that moved to County Down – assume as part of the Hamilton and Montgomery migration of 1606.
Despite, over 2 decades of searching the Boyds do not know when Colonel David Boyd, natural son of 6th Lord Boyd died and where he is buried.
In 1613 he is listed as being a PROVOST (town unknown) in 1613 when he signed a document in Edinburgh and death by 1623 when King James VI and I held an Inquisition in Ireland so that Col Boyd’s son Robert could inherit Col Boyd’s lands in Greyabbey Parish, County Down.
He is termed “of Tourgall” which is an Estate NE of Largs and which he obtained after his father had died.
It is thought that he married Margaret Wallace, Lady Hayning, in the mid 1590’s, but I have never seen an actual dates as yet. Nor is it known how many children they had.
So “researchers” as that Colonel Boyd is the father of ALL THE BOYDS IN COUNTY DOWN. That is not possible, as his wife would have had to have several dozen children to account for the large number of Boyd families that were in County down in the early 1600’s
So, if you are an Ross, Wallace or a Boyd researcher and you have any further data on this family, I would like to hear from your please?
From: Lena McVea
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 3:53 AM
To: William Boyd
Cc: Gustin Melanie ; Mike Boyd ; James Boyd ; george boyd ; Cathy Kuhl ; Floyd Deal ; Ktheewok(a)aol.com ; Craig Heberton
Subject: Re: Boyd farmer near Rowreigh [2-139AA # 409]
Here is what you are up against in Ballyhalbert Graveyard.
Taken from my work I did two or more years ago.
Did Margaret nee Wallace, widow Ross, Lady Hayning marry for a third time (as per Walter Farrell), after the death (circa 1623) of her second husband, Col David Boyd whose family home was Ballycastle House, Mountstewart Road,? I don't think she did because she would then be aged about 64.
Could Col David Boyd have met Margaret Wallace Ross, Lady Hayning, in Ireland, after the death of George Ross in 1595? It seems highly unlikely her husband was the George Ross who owned Quintin Castle near Portaferry, and I can prove it by the dates recorded 86 years after George Ross of Hayning died, and the Clanbrassil Estate records as previously mentioned.
We don't know where Col David and his wife Margaret Boyd died, or where they are buried.
Another important family, the Wallaces’, were also living in Ireland at Ballyobegan House, Innishargie, they came over in 1607 with James Hamilton. A James Wallace of Ballyobegan, Innishargie is named on a Subsidy Roll of 1663 as liable for tax.( PRONI T307A)
Could widow, Margaret Wallace, Lady Hayning, have been staying there when she met Col David Boyd? It is known locally, that Ballyobegan House had a large ballroom, so they probably entertained a lot.
There is a large rock, off Ballywalter, which can be reached at low tide, called the Wallace rock. Was it thus named as a marker by the local fishermen, because it lined up with the Wallace family house sitting high on the hill? Those were the days before radar.
Ballyobegan House is no longer owned by the Wallace's but it is still a family home, owned by a Peninsula farming family.
The will of Hugh Wallace, dated 10th December 1685 below; shows there was a connection between the Wallace and Ross family of Portavoe, Donaghadee.
The will tells us he owns Ballyobegan, which he leaves to his only son Hugh Wallace.
He has daughters Jean and Ann. He wishes to be buried in Ballyhalbert. (There is no visible grave for Hugh Wallace in Ballyhalbert Old Graveyard.)
Overseers: James Ross, Portavoe; William Reid Dunover.
Witnesses: Hugh Hamilton; Thomas Wallace; Alex Ross; James Pringle.
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, 17:22 William Boyd, <wboyd4422(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Smart phone in possession, will keep in touch
On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 11:14 AM Melanie Gustin <mgustin13(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
I bet Bill, unlike you , will have a SMART PHONE handy, so texts and emails can be exchanged - at no cost, by the way. Only the phone calls cost.
From: Mike Boyd
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 2:18 AM
To: Lena McVea ; William Boyd
Cc: Gustin Melanie ; James Boyd ; george boyd ; Cathy Kuhl ; Floyd Deal ; Ktheewok(a)aol.com ; Craig Heberton
Subject: Re: Boyd farmer near Rowreigh [2-139AA # 409]
Lena and All
My “understanding” is that Bill wants to not only map the 6 or 7 Boyds of Rowreagh graves but also all 21 Boyd graves plus the one on the wall in the ruin Church in this Churchyard.
As Bill will be travelling until the 8th July, will there be any way for the group to communicate with him before he gets to the Ards?
From: Lena McVea
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 2:43 AM
To: William Boyd
Cc: Gustin Melanie ; Mike Boyd ; James Boyd ; george boyd ; Cathy Kuhl ; Floyd Deal ; <Ktheewok(a)aol.com> ; Craig Heberton
Subject: Re: Boyd farmer near Rowreigh
That's a long time in the Graveyard. Your graves are all together left of the gate. 5 rows back. All have names on.
I think they leave the bushes inside of the old Church to keep the young teenagers out of it.
Lots of Belfast people have moved down and they have no connection to the old Graveyard.
Would you like us to meet later at Ballyhalbert Graveyard to show you down the back roads and over the Saltwater Brig and onto the Rowreagh Road. This is the land of your ancestors.
On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, 17:31 William Boyd, <wboyd4422(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I will be there fairly early on the 9th, probably between 10am to 10:30 am. It is going to take me some time to map out the graves and search for James the Elder. So I plan on being in the cemeteery at least 3 to 4 hours. Depending on the rain.
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 6:44 AM Lena McVea <lenamcvea(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know this Boyd farmer on the Parsonage Rd.
The road from Newtownards to Greyabbey is straight down two way traffic. We drive on the LEFT side of the road. When you get to Greyabbey you hit a stop. Coming from Ards at this stop turn right for Kircubbin or left for Ballywalter/Ballyhalbert.
The Rureagh Road is a continuous part of the Greyabbey/Kircubbin road which starts after you leave Kircubbin. This is a straight through road.
Getting through Ards from your hotel you can turn right into Regent St. It is two way for a very short time then it becomes one way. If you pass the town hall you will need to vere right and go down the hill to the lights, you can't see the down hill until you get to the lights and the twoway traffic starts again. The left lane takes you straight to the Portaferry Rd. Right turn takes you back into Ards.
There is another way if you turn left from the hotel to the lights and turn left to the roundabout keeping left there is a new carriageway that will take you to a big very busy roundabout on the Portaferry Road.
Going the other way you will still encounter this roundabout but you will just have to give way to traffic coming off onto the Portaferry Road. Sometimes you would think cars had no indicators!
When you get past the roundabout it's staight down the Portaferry Rd. to Greyabbey.
What day do you want to meet at Ballyhalbut Graveyard? If everything goes according to plan my son will take me down and you can follow us to see Glastry House and down to Rureagh Rd through the back roads where you can see the land.
On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 03:44 William Boyd, <wboyd4422(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Getting ready for my trip and I was printing up some maps and I found this Boyd farmer listed on the Google map. He is on the road from Kircubbin toward Ballyhalbert. The road is Parsonage road and if I continue east from his farm there the road turns into Glastry. I checked the location of the townland of Rowreigh and Rowreigh is just south of his farm..
Lena, Do you know of this Boyd Farm??? It may be a place to knock on a door and say Hi.
Am I able to search online for a Scottish OPR Number?
Am looking for the details of a marriage of Hugh Reid & Elizabeth Boyd in
Ayr, Ayr, 17 November 1776.
FHL film number is 1041331.