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I have just found this comment in The Scots Peerage -
“The Privy Council on 4 March 1606 interfered between him and Lord Maxwell, to whom he had sent a cartel or challenge by letter. It would appear that Maxwell and he met on the chamber of the Mistress of Boyd. Drumlanrig was calling on the lady when Maxwell entered, giving formal salutes, by the other offered no ‘courtesie,’ whereupon Maxwell ‘coast off his hat.” Words passed, Maxwell declaring ‘he would not mell with cappit bairns,’ while Drumlanrig gave him the lie. The affair ended in a challenge, but was quashed by the Council. (P. C. Reg., vii. 187; xiv. 424.)”
This is the first time that I have seem the term – “Mistress of Boyd”. Can anyone tell me what it means please?
1.) Sir James Douglas of Drumlanrig, was married in about 1581 and I am not yet sure of the status of Lord Maxwell.
2) And where would this “chamber” be that had all three in the same place? At Edinburgh Castle or some other place in 1606?
Thank you for your suggestions.
House of Boyd Society.
Looking for Elizabeth, born : 1795, England, m Quentin McConnel b 1785,
Might be married in Ireland as #1 son James McConnel b 1815, Fermoy? ( who
became famous. lots on line' re him )
Husband , Quentin d 1820, predeceased his son, #2 Quentin McConnel b 1820
Where did Quentin #2 & Elizabeth go?
Reason for search: BRADBURY used as MIDDLE NAME in my family, over & over, &
they know NOT WHY??!!
ANY help appreciated.
I am re-visiting my work of some years ago on my John Morton and Janet
Anderson family by searching ScotlandsPeople with the info I already have as
well as new searches. I have an IGI individual record for my
2xgreatgrandmother Jean Morton which records her birth in Dunlop ,Ayrshire
on 5 July 1814,christening 7th July. This corresponds with the age of her
death Reg in 1906 (92yrs!) but I can't find an OPRBirth for her in Dunlop
on ScotlandsPeople, nor is there one for her brother William born in 1816 in
Dunlop. The younger siblings who were born in Neilston, Renfrewshire are
listed on ScotlandsPeople. Also the marriage of John Morton and Janet
Anderson in 1813 in Dunlop is on ScotlandsPeople.
Surely there must be an OPR for both Jean and William. I have had
experience with the IGIs being incorrect when several sets of twins have
been allocated to several of my families only to find when I got the OPR
Birth for one of them there was no evidence of a 2nd child having been born.
Thoughts and suggestions will be much appreciated.
Chris in NZ
ATENTION : MR.MIKE BOYD
Burkes GeneralArmoury (Coat of arms)
Scottish register of Tartans - often valuable notes
George Fraser Black (1866-1948) The Surnames of Scotland (1946
A. Macdonald (1941) Place Names of Scotland
Historic Scotland (Old photographs)
Charles Rogers -Monuments & Monumental Inscriptionson Scotland 1841
Musgrave Obits (various volumes)
The History and Antiquities of the Parish of Mid-Calder with some account of Torpichen (1894) Edinburgh
The ScotsPeerage.com <http://scotspeerage.com/> by James Balfour (often valuable notes with genealogies)
The Burns Encyclopedia
Ragmans Rolls (differentiates)
W.Boyd -Education in Ayrshire through seven centuries, Univ. ofLondon 1961 (and his/her writings by himself or co authored)
P Hume Brown,History of Scotland,Univ Press,Cambridge (different volumes)Oliver & Boyd Heritage - Edinburgh 1961
N Murray the Scottish Handloom Weavers.Edin. 1978
My genealogical is Tennant from the BorderClans onwards (1100+)
Hope the above is contributory
Patricia smith (Australia)
I am aware that in the late 1800’s, there were a number of Scottish family history writers, as I seen there books at either the National Library of Scotland or Edinburgh city Library in King George IV Bridge Street.
I think that three of these writers are – Rev or Mr Paton; Rev or Mr Fraser and Mr Grant. There might be other authors of Clan’s histories that I may need to search as well to these three?
Can anyone give me their proper or full names please, so I can search google for what Books they have written and on what Clans, so I can make a list of their books and to see which Library I need to go when I go to Scotland in September/October.
Hopefully, I can work out a list of these books to see if that Clan had any links to Clan Boyd. At present, I have been working on for a few months – when I have spare time from answering queries – I have been writing up the family of the first Lord Boyd’s daughter, Elizabeth Boyd who in 1468 married Archibald Douglas, 5th Earl of Angus and their seven children. So far, I have made a list of some 34 Family Chapters that I need to add to the Clan Boyd Pyramid form just this one couple and their family.
House of Boyd Society
I am aware that Boyds live in and around Christchurch, New Zealand and I hope that none were amongst the 49 killed in Fridays shooting that occurred at the two mosques there in Christchurch.
Knowing the Boyds, and their spread of religion, I would not be at all surprised if there were not one or two at one of these mosques.
I also suspect that there might be one or two people from Ayrshire there as well?
In a private group that I am involved with, one of the members has just advised that – “Masonic records are wonderful genealogical resources, if you know how to find them.”
William Boyd, 4th Earl of Kilmarnock was Grand Master Mason of Scotland 1742 and I suspect he was still the Grand Master in August 1746 when he was executed at Tower Hill, London for his support of Bonnie Prince Charles.
“He was a Past Master of two constituent lodges in Scotland Melrose Lodge and Kilwinning/ Cannongate (this was an Ancient trade lodge of stonemasons that had met at Kilmarnock for hundreds of years but during the Earls time it was meeting in Edinburgh and was full of Jacobites) and, also, one in France "Loge du St. Germaine"- which was held at St. Germaine (we know this because of recently discovered Scottish rite documents discovered in Sweden of all places). The Earl and his good friend Alan Ramsey were instrumental to the spread of the Scottish Masters Degree around the world. It was William Boyd who conferred the "Royal Arch" (a masonic degree) on the Bonnie Prince after their victory at Preston. In 1741 he and Ramsey took the warrant for a lodge to Rome.”
And it seems that his son James Boyd, changed to Hay when in 1758 he became the 15th Earl of Erroll -
“his son as James Hay the 15th Earl of Erroll followed his father as Master of Melrose lodge and as Grand Master of Masons in Scotland in 1752.”
Does anyone know if there are any records of these Lodges in Ayrshire or are they now kept at some other location in Scotland?
As it is very unlikely that I will go to the USA this year, I am hoping to take two of my 12 year old granddaughters to Scotland in about September/October to se some of the Boyd sites. And after they go home, I should be able to some of this reserch.
Thank you for your assistance
House of Boyd Society
I am currently writing up the family of Elizabeth Boyd, daughter of Lord Robert Boyd, and Archibald Douglas, 5th Earl of Angus from “the Scots Peerage”, Volume 1.
Some of the Sources cited are called just The Douglas Book.
It would appear that there are at least three Volumes – if not more – but there is no date of publication. As Volume 1 of “the Scots Peerage” is written in 1904, I can only assume that it was published before this date.
I can’t recall seeing at either the NLS, The Edinburgh Library at King IV Bridge or at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow in various visits
Has anyone else come across this book? And does it outline the various cadet Branches of the Douglas?
Oh, where did you find it? Hopefully, I can put that Library on my list to visit in September- October 2019, when I go to Scotland.
I am just working on the Earl of Angus family of Elizabeth Boyd and Archibald Douglas, 5th Earl of angus, when the question came into my mind, as to “what happened” to the Scottish dead?
While Archibald went with the King, into England and to Floddon, but when King James IV, refused to take Angus’s advice he left the battlefield the night before but told his two eldest son – George, Master of Angus and Sir William Douglas of Glenbervie to stay and guard the King with their life.
I have yet to find out how many other Douglas also were killed with the Earl’s two eldest son or who may Douglas “Laird’s or men of quality” might have also been killed. I am assuming that there were no Douglas left to even bring the Earl’s tow sons home to Scotland to be buried in hte family vaults.
I would be very grateful for any information on what happened to the dead after the Battle of Floddon?
Hi List members
This is to advise any Boyd, or those searching for Boyds, that on Saturday 6 April 2019, that the House of Boyd Society – representing Clan Boyd – is planning to join the New York Tartan Day Parade up 6th Avenue.
Our Convenor for CT, Melanie Gustin [Email mgustin13(a)earthlink.net] has advised that she has 4 people already that have said they will march is this Parade. She needs seven people before she plans to register – which I assume should be early this week.
The line-up is at 1.00 pm on the side streets near 6th Avenue and West 45th Street. At this stage it is “thought” that Clan Boyd will meet in Bryant Park, a few blocks south of our line of march, ahead of time. Often bands from Scotland play there before the parade. It's a good place to grab some lunch as well.
The start of this Parade where many of the clans and bands line up in front of the General Society of Mechanics and Tradesmen, founded by Robert Boyd Jr. 234 years ago and still kickin'! Can't beat that! (Melanie’s ancestor – Robert Boyd was born in 1734 in Ballyhalbert, Ards Peninsular, County Down, Ireland, where a number of his relatives are buried. He came with his family and uncles to NYC in 1756 and shortly afterwards settled at New Windsor, Orange County, NY. And besides starting the General Society of Mechanics and Tradesmen in NYC, he was the Sheriff of NYC in 1790 when President George Washington was sworn in, in NYC.)
When Melanie gets more than seven people, she will register Clan Boyd with the Parade Organisers and they will provide her with a place in the Line of March for this event.
The Parade starts at 2.00 pm at West 45th Street and marches up 6th Avenue to 55th Street.
At this time, it is not sure of Clan Boyd will watch the other Clans and Bands march past or go straight to a suitable venue to have coffee, pizza or perhaps some of that Highland Mist that Scotland is famous for. I understand those details are being looked at as Melanie lives in up State CT and is not familiar with suitable venues around 55th Street.
And if your Clan is not Marching, other Clansmen are most welcome to join Clan Boyd in their own tartan dress. The Boyds of Ayrshire, and many other parts of Scotland, are related by marriage to quite a number of other Scottish Clans, including – Montgomery; Colquhoun; Maxwell; Kennedy; Stewart; Colville; Mure of Rowallan; Crawfurd of Craufurdland; Douglas, of Lochlevan; Douglas, of Angus; Gordon of Lochivar; Hay; Somerville of Cambusnethan; Fairlie of that Ilk; Campbell of Loudoun; Wallace; Cunningham; Hamilton of Evandale and Libbertoun; Kerr; Blair; Galbraith of Kilcroich; Hamilton, of Abercorn; Campbell, of Auchinbreck; Elphinstone; Hamilton, of Haddington; Fleming; Mor(r)ison; Sinclair; Scott; Maclean; Porterfield; Ross; Nicolson; Livingston; Lockhart – are some of the other Clans that the Chief of Clan Boyd have married into over the last 900 years.
However, if you do not know which Clan that you belong to, or have no known clan, you are most welcome to come and join Clan Boyd in this Tartan Day Parade (and wear what ever tartan you may wish to wear). Please let Melanie know if you wish to join them, so she an ensure that you know what their starting point will be and where they will go after the event.
Sorry I can’t join you from 15,000 miles away in Australia.
House of Boyd Society
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