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Don't know if this is the same McMillan, but there was a Rev John McMillan
who with a Rev Thomas Nairn, a Ruling Elder, constituted the Reformed
Presbytery of Scotland, which was organized in 1743.........If we are
talking about one and the same perosn, I would like to know more about him
From: paul & robyn taylor <p.rl.taylor(a)xtra.co.nz>
To: AYRSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <AYRSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 2:45 AM
Subject: McMILLANITE - COVENANTERS
>Can anybody tell me about this particular group of covenanters? Who was
McMillan and where was he from?
>Robyn on Waiheke Island, NZ
In addition to the connections I noted yesterday, I also have the
CAMPBELL, GOWAN, McGREGOR, McKINLEY, TEMPLETON, KERR
These records show the marriage and/or children born to the couples.
re: message from Bill Davidson;
Bill you offered to scan the picture you have of the four remaining homes
from "The Hills". As my grandfather was born in Burnfoothills, which is now
in ruins, I would be most appreciative of having a copy of the the last
I was also in Dalmellington about the same time you were, but I did not see
those houses, although, I did get up into the Hills to see the ruins.
Thank you very much for your offer. Patti
You can send the picture to me at: Mayse6(a)aol.com
I'm looking for ANY information on a Adam CALDOW b. 25 June 1826,
Kilwinning, Ayrshire, son of John CALDOW and Agnes GIBSON. He may of
immigrated to America,in the Wisconsin area????
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In cleaning out my grandfather's old chest I found a Bible printed in 1820
with the name "Eddie Dickie, Bunker Hill" written in a childish hand with
crayola on the flyleaf. The style resembles letters my grandfather wrote to
"Dear Uncle" and saved along with it. Thus began my genealogical search
The 1870 Census of Bunker Hill (city of), Bunker Hill Township, Macoupin
County, Illinois shows:
Robert DICKIE, age 38, born Scotland, occupation Wagon maker
wife Mary age 36, born Scotland
son William age 11 born IL
dau Mary age 7 born IL
son Robert J. age 5 born IL
son John age 3 born IL
son Edward age 3 months born IL
unidentified relationship: Rebecca age 66 born Scotland
The Bunker Hill Cemetery has several Dickie families. The family was
enumerated in June. Robert died the following November while on a short trip
to evaluate the local hardwood for his wagons.
Other Dickies and Dickeys in the area were listed as blacksmiths and
laborers. There was a coal mine in the next town.
Mary was born Mary Patrick and reportedly spoke Gaelic when agitated, though
I suspect it was actually Scots. I don't recall who told me they were from
Sons William and brother Robert owned a jewelry/optician store in Bunker
Hill [I have their printed invoice].
Robert J. appears later in several places as Robert E.
And who was Eddie? Edward Dickie, a volunteer fireman and local hero, died
at age 22 of cerebral hemorrhage after a fall from a horse. His nephew, my
grandfather, was then 6 years old.
If you know of Dickies in Dalry, please communicate.
Mrs. Tirrill Leslie Mehana
in (occasionally) sunny Los Angeles
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Could some one tell me exactly where Gateshead , Beith is ( @1907)?
Would SKS check out the 1901 census for James McNay , Maggie Baxter, and children.?
Where would I check for rail records (personnel and history of rail accidents in or around the Beith area.)?
I have noticed the discussion about Kerrs in Dalry--I have a HELEN
KERR who married into my McBlane line. She married JAMES McBLANE 1851 in
Dalry. They had at least 6 children that I know of. At this point I have
no further info on Helen, but may know more about her when I get the
1861 census film in. Just wondered if anyone had come across Helen or
knew of a Kerr/McBlane connection?
Other names I am researching in Dalry include McGHEE, MONTGOMERIE,
STEEL, and SCOTT.
Having lost my mail files I'm reposting my names and am interested in hearing
from anyone researching them ...especially if they have been in touch
Howie (especially David H and Margaret Shinnan marr 1803 Craigie) in the
McMurdo anywhere anytime
Fisher in Riccarton especially Robert b 1764 and his son John b 1791 both
Peacock in (1790s) Barrhead, Neilston and later (1900) New Cumnock areas
Tannock in Tarbolton
McCrone b 1778 in Muirkirk married to Stevenson
I'm just up and running after being totally wiped out this morning. I've
lost my address book, all my saved site addresses, old mail, everything
Can someone give me the name and place of the FH fair in Ayr in ?May please?
Years ago, I had the privilege of researching the original parish
records for Cumock and some surrounding parishes from the early 1700's
to approx. 1820. I was principally looking for ancestors and recorded
the following marriages:
MC LATCHIE to:
BROWN, HUNTER, SMITH, McCLONE, REID, KER, PATERSON, LOCKIE, MITCHELL,
MURDOCH, WILSON, McTURK, LADLIE(LAIDLAY), CRAWFORD, HOWRI(?),
McCOWAN(McOWEN), CATCWELL, YOUNG, INGRAM, STEWART, SALLARS, HYSLOP,
McKIE, THOM, CAMPBELL, ORR, RUSSEL, SAMSON, HART(HEART), DICKIE, GOOD,
GEMMELL, MILLAR, HERON, McGEE, HAMILTON, McCALL, M'CRONE,
WILSON, MURRAY, GEMMEL, LOCKIE, HAIR, MITCHELL, CALDROW, KENNEDY,
AIRTHAR, McCALLA, STEWART, McCLUNG, MORISON, McCRACKEN, HALL, GIBB
McERVAIL, HAMILTON, LOCKIE, WALLACE, HUNTER, SPEIR
If you can identify with any of these couples [1730--1820], contact me
for full text of marriage [and sometimes births of children]
I am new to this list and hope to find some contacts on some of my
husband's lines in Ayr. His grandfather, James J. CAMPBELL was born in
Kilwinning in 1861, the son of John CAMPBELL and Agnes GALBRAITH. The
family came to America in 1869. John CAMPBELL was a locomotive fireman and
engineer and on the 1861 census, they lived at the Eglinton Iron Works.
Their children were: John, James J., Lillias, Robert, Elizabeth, David,
Agnes, Ellen, Alexander, William, Jane, and Joseph. Not necessarily in
The parents of John CAMPBELL were Robert CAMPBELL and Elizabeth HART.
Those of Agnes were James GALBRAITH (of Kilwinning )and Lillias STEWART (of
Does anyone recognize or relate to any of these names? Any help would be
Thank in advance.
Nancy Page Richings
Salem, Oregon, USA
I have a relative a James Kerr who was born in Dalry around about 1819,
possibly a brother of your John's, I know there were John Kerr's in later
generations of this family. I will be going down to the Registrars office
in Kilbirnie (they also cover Dalry) as soon as I can get rid of my
Millennium bug (a particularly nasty type of flu), probably next week. My
James Kerr was 62 in the 1881 census and I was going to look up his death
details, costs about 5 pounds (Scots) for a single look-up, at the Kilbirnie
Registrar's office. If John died in Dalry, can you give me an approximate
date of death and I could maybe do a look up on him too. And for the grand
of 13 pounds Scots could maybe even get you a copy of his death certificate,
they will mail it direct to your home address. Or you could get a copy from
Scottish Origins for about 10 pounds, if they have it on file.
You mention John KERR married Martha CURRIE in Dalry 1839 and
wonder how to confirm his parents.......
Some suggestions come to mind which may be helpful. At least
this is how I would proceed........
1. did the 1839 marriage event on film give additional
2. remember that 1841 census instructions were to round down
to the nearest 5 eg 24 might be seen as 20 but this was
3. collect all children's names from OPR/Census/IGI/AF/family
sources and consider the possibility of a naming pattern
4. especially be interested in obtaining the photocopy of a
birth if it occurred in Scotland in 1855......you will
receive an abundance of information.......I understand
1856 may also be more rewarding that the remaining years
5. your John Kerr obviously died after 1855 when civil reg
began in Scotland.........if he died in Scotland this
cert will give you his parents names
My experience tells me that the ages given at census time are
often incorrect.......it totally depends on who gave the
information and how educated they were.......the enumerator
was asking for the names and ages of who slept in the house
on census night, and I don't believe each household was
visited on the same night and therefore the informant might
be one person speaking for all.
Having said all the above, I could not resist taking a peek
at the IGI/LDS site online.........you see, I have many
interests in Beith and Kilbirnie as well as other areas of
Ayrshire. Dalry is one area that I must begin to research
for MACKIE and I expect it to be a challenge as the minister
did not like to enter the mothers name at most of the bapts
that I think are mine! I have a rumor of four wives, over
20 children and a life span of over 100 years!!!
The IGI/LDS site online is not complete in my opinion at this
time........I do not think that the Scottish Church Records CD
has been fully added........
BUT, I found your marriage in 1839 and children Jane 1841 and
Agnes Mary 1843 (in fact, Agnes Mary's birth appears to have
been entered twice in the OPR of Dalry and if you view this it
just might say that she was born USA but recorded in the parish
records of Dalry) ...... I wondered what happened after 1843,
and decided to ask for children born to John Kerr/Martha and
I received four more children Janet Allan 1852/Martha *1855*/
Robert 1857/Marion 1859 all at Dalry......... the mother of
these children was Martha GALLOWAY and a marriage occurred
10 Dec 1850 at Dalry.
This is all just index research, and so I have no way of knowing
if these are two different John KERRs who married two different
Marthas but as you have Agnes Mary in a census of Dalry (likely
the 1861 Census) then you may well have seen the other children
mentioned above in the same family group.
Another tip - the 1850 marriage may give you additional information
that would also confirm that John was a widow as well as a trade
or residence that would be the same as the John that married 1839.
I hope this helps,
Dear Dear Listers - Does anyone have any information on McIlwain, however
small. I'm beginning to think we originated from nowhere. I'm interested
in any McIlwains born during the 1900's. Thank you Karen McIlwain - S
From: Wallace Fullerton <wwf(a)radix.net>
To: AYRSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <AYRSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2000 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: Scots sent to South Carolina in 1716
>I also like these bits of history but, quite frankly, since my family
>immigrated through the northern states and Canada, I have only middling
>knowledge of the Scots emmigration to the south. I was totally unaware of
>this particular venture, for example.
>Do you know of any "quick" history sources that might start me in that area
>(I can put off the in-depth stuff until I know the rudiments.)
>At 09:16 AM 2/26/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>Thank you so much for the history lesson. I can appreciate the time it
>>to write, and I thank you very much for your thoughtfulness. I have been a
>>history buff all my life, especially European History.
>>Do you know American History? These (30) Scots that were "bought", were
>>brought to South Carolina to defend the city of Charles Town (Charleston)
>>from the Indians, the Spaniards in St. Augustine Florida, and pirates.
>>American Revolution wasn't until 1775.
Although I am an amateur, I hope I approach this subject in a professional
manner. So if there is a proper established way to do it I would not want
to reinvent the wheel. Stick to Chapman codes.
One of the VKS's on this site very kindly did a look-up for me in the 1881 census on CD, on a relative in Coylton, Ayrshire and I was a bit puzzled about her answer. According to the 1881 census CD, Irvine, Coylton and Auchinleck are all in Argyllshire ? The odd thing was that the census said that the father was born in Irvine, Ayrshire but some of the children who were born in Irvine were born in Irvine, Argyllshire. I suppose there had to be some errors in the CD but it makes you wonder, if they get English people, unfamiliar with Scottish towns and names to transcribe the 1901 census, how many mistakes will they make ?
Thanks again VKS, for the look-up.
Dan in Port Glasgow.