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In Chapman county codes, now the nationally recognised standard list of UK
abbreviations, the code for Lanarkshire is LKS. LAK is an abbreviation
spcific to the LDS church and is not accepted by other bodies, for example
the Genealogical Research Directory or the big R for UK
Daniel McLean tells me that Lanarkshire should be LAK.
Mary Connell tells me its LKS
I tried to find the sure Daniel recommended with no luck (unable to make a
connection) So I'm still out of luck on this one. If there are anymore
votes I guess I'll let democracy rule
My program likes to keep a long version and an abbreviated version of source
names. I use "Scottish Civil Records" as a long name for the author of
documents(from registers and such). For a short version would it be OK to
say "GRO" or should I abbreviate it like "ScotCivRec"
For Margaret & John and Rodney (and anyone else interested)
Galston is 4.4 miles from Kilmarnock - calculated by using Dave
Bennett's marvellous Parish Locator Programme which can be downloaded off
the Internet. Sorry I can't post the web site; I can't find where I've filed
Beaudesert, Qld, Australia
LAK is the abbreviation for Lanarkshire. To see all of the county
abbreviations look up, Using the 1881 British Census indexes, it is on the
LDS internet site and the county abbreviations are near the end of this
fairly large document.
Hi Margaret and John,
I have no idea where Galston is in relation to Kilmarnock. If it is of any
value to either of you, I have a Janet Paton who was born 17 Sep 1801 in
> Tom Muir shared the progress on his Wilson family research;
I wonder if there could be any connection with the Wilson in our family line.
Francis FREW m Margaret WILSON in 1804 in Kilwinning. Her father was listed as Thomas WILSON.
Their children were John, James, Francis, Charlotte and William.
Francis kept the Thomas Wilson name alive by giving it to one of his sons.
Inconnection with my research on the McNeill Family from Ayr (Ayrshire)
Scotland, I hope that someone may be able to provide information as to the
NAME: CATHERINE DUFF THOMSON
Date of Birth: Approximately 1830
Place of Birth: Ayr, Scotland - Ayrshire
Date of Death: Possibly sometime after 1864
Place of Death: Possibly Ayr, Scotland - Ayrshire
NAME: WILLIAM MC NEILL
Date of Birth: January 1, 1832
Place of Birth: Ayr, Scotland - Ayrshire
Date of Death: Unknown
Place of Death: State of Georgia, U.S.A.
NAME: CATHERINE DUFF MC NEILL
Date of Birth: August 13, 1864
Place of Birth: Stevenston, Ary, Scotland
Date of Death: November 15, 1941
Place of Death: Charleston, South Carolina, U.S.A.
NAME OF GROOM: WILLIAM MC NEILL
NAME OF BRIDE: CATHERINE DUFF THOMSON
Date of Marriage: Unknown
Place of Marriage: Ary, Scotland - Aryshire
NOTE: WILLIAM MC NEILL and his two daughters, one by the name of
CATHERINE DUFF MC NEILL, and the other daughter whose
unknown, emigrated to the Unites States of America
arriving at a port
on the Atlantic Coast, possibly at the Port of
Savannah, Georgia, U.S.A.
after the death of CATHERINE DUFF THOMSON MC NEILL in
Any information which anyone may be able to provide will be greatly
Any suggestions as to other sources of information will, also, be greatly
ROBERT D. PETERSON
I have one of my ancestors Psalm books in which he wrote his name Thomas
Gillies, 27 Feb 1843, dwelling place Cessnock and the following notes:
Afflictions sore long time she bore Physicians were in
vain Till God did please to give her ease
And free her of her pain
................ Epitaph on Grandmothers
Tombstone, Church Yard, King
................ I need to find
name & dates for this tombstone & wonder if someone may have seen this
epitaph in a book or in person. My Great Great Grandparents were Daniel
Gillies b.1808 X Catherine Loudoun b.1804 & married in Galston 2 Jan
1830. Their children were Thomas, William, Janet, Daniel, Annie, John &
Andrew. Parents of Daniel & Catherine were Thomas Gillies X Ann
Campbell and William Loudon X Janet Pollock of Bank. Any info on these
ancestors is greatly appreciated. Thanks,
I wanted to share the progress on my Wilson family research;
Thomas Wilson b. Abt. 1845 Avondale d. 1898 Coylton, AYR, f. John Wilson m.
Mary McMullen, married Ann McDougall daughter of Allan McDougall and Mary
Elizabeth b. Abt. 1868 Stonehouse
Margaret b. Feb 3, 1868 Stonehouse
John b. Nov 21, 1869 Stonehouse
Allan b. Feb 12, 1872 Stonehouse
Thomas b. Jun 22, 1874 Dalrymple,
Ann b. April 29, 18, 1876 Dalrymple
Alexander b. Abt. 1878 Dalrymple
Lesley Bone wrote:
> Dear Joan
Saw your postings to the Ayrshire list.
> I have an Isabella Stevenson born abt 1795 Shutterflat, Beith, AYR
She married William Clark born abt 1896.
> Also got a few Beith Crawfords, bit sketchy but married Kerr of Beith.
> Any interest
> Lesley Bone
Sorry to be so slow in replying to your message. I marked it for
attention, then we had a lot of incoming mail & it got 'lost' above the
My Beith STEVENSONs include Janet b abt 1775, married John CUNNINGHAM.
In the Beith census of 1841 I found a James STEVENSON 85, & Jean 70
who *might* be Janet's parents. Somewhere else I found a marriage
between James STEVENSON & Jean FULTON. John & Janet named their first
There were two John CUNNINGHAMs in the previous generation. One married
Ann STEELE, the other Isobel STEVENSON. I don't know yet which is
I hope to connect with the GRO next week & find out more. I'll let you
know if I do.
All the Best,
Hi, I'm new to the list and looking for any thing on the following:
Descendants of Davidson
... 2 Marion Davidson b: Abt. 1746
....... +James NcNider m: 29 July 1766 in Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland d: Abt. 1834
........ 3 Janet McNider b: 20 September 1775
........ 3 John McNider b: Abt. 1785 in Kirkmichael, Ayr d: 5 September 1864 in Crosshill Village
............ +Agnes Donaldson b: Abt. 1785 m: 20 December 1808 in Kirkmichael, Ayr, Scotland d: Bef. 1860
.............. 4  Agnes McNider b: 23 November 1827 in Kirkmichael, Ayrshire, Scotland d: Abt. 1900 in Glasgow, Scotland
.............. *2nd Husband of  Agnes McNider:
.................. +Charles Thompson b: Abt. 1810 in N. S America m: 3 July 1860 in Crosshill Village, Ayr, Scotland d: 8 February 1881 in Bridgend, Parish of Bathgate, Scotland
.............. 4 Janet McNider b: Abt. 1822 in Kirkmichael, Ayr
... 2 John Davidson b: Abt. 1728
Also searching for the following:
Thanks for any help or info,
James McIlroy, jhm(a)uniserve.com
I've a marriage between William Gemmell and Jane Paton in Galston on 31st
If this ties in with your Galston Paton's I'd love to hear from you.
John D. Andrews
From: m.burgess(a)christ.acu.edu.au <m.burgess(a)christ.acu.edu.au>
To: AYRSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <AYRSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 29 June 1999 01:12
Subject: Galston - PATON
>Is anyone researching the PATON families of Galston? Does anyone know what
>records are available for research besides LDS?
>Margaret R Burgess
In my research I have noticed a close relationship of the Hose, Duff and
McMeekin families. Has anyone else noted this? Does anyone know where Andrew
Hose b. 1818 ( or his family) originated.
I seem to have come across a place called Denny in Stirlingshire associated
often in the Hose names.- also a Campsie in Stirlingshire and I note that
our G grandfather James McMeekin also came from Campsie. Regards Dorothy C.
On 22nd June I forwarded the following message to this digest.
My great grandmother, Elisabeth Laird BRATCHIE was born in Shotts 2 Mar 1868.
My grandfather was born, John Lyle BRATCHIE, in Mid Greenock 15 Dec 1889.
His father was a John LYLE.
I cannot find any records of marriage between Elisabeth Laird BRATCHIE and
John LYLE. There is nothing in the 1891 Census up to as far as I have
My grandfather turned up in St. Catherines Marriage reference, listed in
Liverpool, for the June Quarter 1913, and his name was listed as John
I have been told that he re-registered his name about 1954, whatever that
means. I cannot obtain any further information from my dad's family as they
too have no idea, nor do they seem to have any past knowledge of his
Is there anybody out there who can help please as this is one big brick wall.
On 26th June after a discussion with Ewan Steed I had a reply from him
with information that nobody in the my family knew about or were prepared
to discuss. He has enlightened me and removed another obstacle in my
research. Needless to say I now have another brick wall.
I wish to thank him publicly and to let everyone know how fast he was
coming up with these answers.
Anybody looking for a researcher, I strongly recommend this person. His
contact address is
"Ewan Steed" <genealogy(a)roots.sol.co.uk>
His Homepage is www.photomaster.ndirect.co.uk/roots/
David Lyle Australia
BRATCHIE... 1800+ Wigan, Whitburn, Irvine
CREDIDIO... 1840+ Naples, Corsica, France, Liverpool - England
LAIRD... 1777+ Kilmacolm, Shotts, Greenock, Scotland
LYLE... 1860+ Mid Greenock 1913+ Liverpool - England
MALCOLM... 1848+ Manchester
Fred - sorry for the delay. Been on holiday.
I have SARAH KENNEDY married ROBERT McCULLY 24 Mar 1865 . She was age 21 .
Usual address Tichfield St Kilmarnock. ( re marriage cert. )
Her parents JAMES KENNEDY shoemaker & MARY WALLACE . Both parents alive at
time of wedding.
From: Fred MacKay <fmackay(a)bigfoot.com>
To: Mitchell, Alan <alan(a)mitchell33.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: 15 June 1999 22:41
Subject: Re. KENNEDY/WALLACE.
>Hi! there Alan,
>I see that you have the surnames of Kennedy and Wallace in your
>family in Ayrshire.
>Please, would you let me know whereabouts in the county and a time
>scale for these families, so I cam make a check on mine.
I am trying to find ANY information on Thomas Kennedy and Mary Shaw married
24 July 1846 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland. They came to America in 1853.
Can anyone tell me what ships left Scotland in 1852-53 sailing to America or
where I can find out the information. Thomas and Mary had two sons with them,
Robert and John Henry.
Thanks for any help.
cousin in TEXAS, USA
Yeah! That is a good question! I have seen the same phenomina.
I think it MIGHT be that they have split off the records that cover LDS
ordinance work (The work that mormons do for the dead) into a seperate data
base. So information that was gathered specifically from members who were
doing ordinance work for their ancestors would now be kept in a seperate
From: Geoffrey Clarke <gcclarke(a)primus.com.au>
To: AYRSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <AYRSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 6:18 AM
Subject: Missing IGI Records
>Can anyone please help me by explaining how records that I obtained from
>are no longer there.
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