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Re-posting for any new subscribers who may be unaware of this
For those who don't already know, Tasmanian Birth, Death & Marriage
certificates pre 1900 are available on microfilm for the cost of a
photocopy. For a list of availability please visit
http://www.vision.net.au/~tashistory/bdms.htm Further places will be
added as we find out about them.
I am re-posting this message because I have heard of many people
requesting a pre 1900 certificate from Tas RGD with the
resulting cost being much more. If you can't get to a library that
has the microfilms please try posting a message to this
list as I am sure that one of the subscribers who has easy access
would soon get one for you.
Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania
Joint Listowner: AUS-Tasmania mailing list
Mainly Tasmanian, Meryl Yost's Genealogy Home Page
Tasmanian Family History Service
Joint Co-ordinator: TasmaniaGenWeb
Interested in obtaining information on the family of Frederick SOWDEN /
SODEN and Mary Ann HOLLAND.
Frederick was born about 1804, possibly in Warwickshire. He was
probably transported to Tasmania. In 1839, in Launceston, Frederick
married Mary Ann HOLLAND.
Mary Ann HOLLAND was born in England about 1811.
Frederick and Mary Ann had the following children:
William 6 Dec 1835 Launceston m Martha WINCH
Eliza Jun 1837 Launceston m Joseph GILLAM
John Frederick 28 Nov 1839 Launceston - died as an infant
Sarah Ann (Jane) 4 Dec 1841 Launceston m James FEBEY
Mary Ann 4 Dec 1841 Launceston m Martha HARRIS
Frederick 16 Sep 1843 Launceston
Ellen 9 Aug 1845 Launceston
Caroline 18 May 1848 Launceston
Louisa 14 Apr 1850 Launceston m George BAREFOOT
Thought I'd put my surnames on the list as others seem to be having success!
Thomas, John, and Charles Farrell, Tas Peninsula area in 1860's, fostered
by James Hurst.
Munday/Monday/Mundy and Free families, from Clarence area 1800's.
Bauld family from Northern Tas in late 1800's and any Kelbs.
Thanks in anticipation,
All the Port Arthur records are located at the Archives Office in
Hobart, and the people attempting to build a database at the Port
Arthur Historic Site have to travel to Hobart to access these records
when someone requests information which has not been previously
The people at Port Arthur appeared to be very enthusiastic, and it
seems like a good idea to have some sort of record there which can be
turned up while tourists are on the spot, but there is a tremendous
amount of work involved in transcribing the records into their
database and it seems to be proceeding very slowly. I had to pay for
information which I had told them I already had, and some of what they
gave me was incorrect.
I recommend approaching the Archives Office staff in the first
instance. They are experienced in this research, and I think they
charge the same fees.
Excuse my ignorance, but would the New Town Charitable Institution be
connected to the New Town Infirmary, or were they separate. I was told
by the Archives Office, that the New Town Infirmary was for the Aged or
physically handicapped 'poor' also.
The New Town Charitable Institution was a government-run invalid
asylum, opened in 1874 in the buildings which had previously been the
Queen's Orphan School and later became St John's Park Nursing Home.
It housed elderly men and women who were unable to support themselves
due to age or physical disabilities, and who had no friends or
relatives who could (or would) take them in.
In her book "Poverty is not a Crime" published by the Tasmanian
Historical Research Association in 1972, Joan C. Brown gives a
graphic picture of conditions in the institution.
Ruth Eschmann in Hobart
From: Irene Dillon <irened(a)southcom.com.au>
To: AUS-Tasmania-L(a)rootsweb.com <AUS-Tasmania-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Thursday, 29 April 1999 12:29
Subject: New Town Charitable Institution
>I'm now researching Jane O'KEEFE nee KELLY, wife to my 1879
>She died of senility in 1890 and was buried as a pauper at Cornelian
>The cemetery records show her last residence as being the New Town
>Has anyone heard of it? In earlier years Jane was a catholic so I
>expect this institution was also.
>Thanks in anticipation,
I am searching for information on the ELIZA MASSEY who married JOHN
McDONALD on 20 August 1877 in Tasmania.
My family has an Eliza Massey who was born in Leswalt, Wigtonshire,
Scotland in 1855 and disappears sometime after 1874. Family tradition
(rumor) says she went to Australia. Her parents were George and Mary
Through a query in another mail list I was informed of the above Eliza
and would like to hear from anyone who can show if this is the Eliza I am
Thanks, Jack McRae, Montana, USA
I do not know what year marriage records go to in Tas but I have a
which states JAMES WILLIS/SUSAN MARRINAN were married 1911 Ballarat Vic
no marriage is recorded here for them nor the births of their two
children Dorothy Willis b 1913 and James b 1915 - as James came from
Tasmania I wonder whether they married there? Could someone please
advise me if these records are available
Yes, very true. I can vouch for both of those statements...
Thelma (Bostock) Birrell.
Thel & Matt <mrbirrell(a)ozemail.com.au>
< http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mrbirrell/ > for research names
'ROSE & THISTLE to BLUE GUM & GOLDEN WATTLE
< www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/birrell2.html >
Extensive Birrell Family Story from 1750 in Fifeshire
>When you have free settlers arriving in Tasmania from about 1810 it is
>always a good idea to look for them as convicts in NSW, quite a number of
>convicts did quite well for them selves in NSW, sold up and moved to
>Tasmania, where they arrived as free settlers. You can sometimes pick them
>up advertising in the Sydney Gazette that they are leaving the colony.
.>The convicts that were settled on Norfolk Island were removed to Tasmania
Searching families from a successful list.
Woolley; Jacobson; Cleary; Williamson; Burden; Cabury; Horvitz; Lumsden;
Mansfield; Hanslow; Wood; Bennett; Nash; Riley and Longshaw.
Would be most grateful to hear from any descendents.
When you have free settlers arriving in Tasmania from about 1810 it is
always a good idea to look for them as convicts in NSW, quite a number of
convicts did quite well for them selves in NSW, sold up and moved to
Tasmania, where they arrived as free settlers. You can sometimes pick them
up advertising in the Sydney Gazette that they are leaving the colony.
In Tasmania they were sometimes hightly respected citizens, one example was
Benjamine Jones, ex convict who was a successful farmer in the Hawkesbury,
NSW, he sold up in 1814 (from memory) arived in Hobart as free settler, was
one of the founders of the bank, had his own pew in St Davids, and aquired
a large property in the midlands.
The convicts that were settled on Norfolk Island were removed to Tasmania
at one stage, also they were resettled (I think round Devonport) as free
settlers. My Tassie history is very vague but I have had several NSw
convicts end up there.
Elizabeth A Roberts
I am new to the list, but have been watching for a few weeks now.
Irene. I am responding to your interest in "SARGENT". Note mine is with an
extra "A". Despite the spelling difference I thought it worth responding as
"LOCKLEY" also apears in my files with Edwin L marrying Ida S.
My SARGEANT family is quite extensive and originates in London, thence to
Hobart in 1842 with the arrival of Henry & Joanna, and their adult children
Daniel & Emma. Vessel Appoline.
Appreciate further contact if this info connects to your interest.
Belated forward of message from Maree Ring with regards to marriage
notices in newspapers.
>A couple of people have suggested that the marriage may not have
>place, however, it was usual 'in those days' for a marriage
>have been placed AFTER the marriage, not before! which is the norm
>(and checking the Mercury index, I see that the 'marriage' was dated
>six days before the announcement appeared in the newspaper which one
>state was a reasonable time after for that period... (Have seen some
>marriage announcements appear with the birth of the first child some
>months after the marriage!)
>It has probably been only in the last three decades (can't quite
>when, but when you are getting older, memory seems to lapse a bit)
>marriage notices (placed before the event) became a phenomenon.
>I hope this is of interest, even if it doesn't solve Douglas'
I'm now researching Jane O'KEEFE nee KELLY, wife to my 1879 pensioner.
She died of senility in 1890 and was buried as a pauper at Cornelian Bay
The cemetery records show her last residence as being the New Town
Has anyone heard of it? In earlier years Jane was a catholic so I
expect this institution was also.
Thanks in anticipation,
Dear Denise and Listers
We visited Port Arthur in early January. I was also impressed by the fact
that they had a research centre. Fortunately I had my genealogical data
with me and so I filled out four cards with my convict details which
included the names and dates of ships for three of them.
Eventually received a reply. Had suppled all the reel numbers for one
convict as well as the name of the ship and date of deportation - was told
that there was no record of any convict of this particular name which is
nonsense as some kindly person in Tas used the same reel numbers to obtain
a photocopy of this ancestor's convict records.
For some of my other convicts Port Arthur replied that there were several
convicts of the same name. This may have been the case but I had given
the names of the relevant ships as well as shipping dates and some
reference numbers and I now have the shipping lists for those convicts and
there are no other persons on those ships with the same names. They
wanted further instructions because of the name problem. Could not be
bothered writing back and saying look again there is only one x on ship y.
It was sad really as in a moment of great generosity my husband had offered
to pay all the research fees. This moment has now passed!
Letter from the Port Arthur researcher also mentioned that they have only
limited access to info at the Archives Office. This concerned me because
no one on the list has ever mentioned access problems at the Archives
Office. As well as being inefficient they made it all sound so
complicated, and such a problem that I lost faith in their ability to do
reliable, effective and efficient research. Subsequently obtained the
relevant info without any difficulty.
So my advice is don't waste your money on Port Arthur researchers for a
year or so until they have their research facility better organized and are
accessible on the web. All the best genealogists in Tasmania are on our
mailing list. It is a truly Taswegian mailing list with many great
persons willing to give intelligent advice and assistance.
My surnames as follows :-
BELTZ/BELZ, COLEMAN, DODD, DURKIN, EAVES/EVES, HEATH, LIDDELL/LIDDLE,
MADDEN, MILLHOUSE, PALMER, SOMERVILLE.
Any information appreciated, will respond to all queries/emails.
IN need of direction - Don't know what to look for next. Not sure about
how to deal with discrepencies of birth dates, baptismal records vs family
Need some kindly person to get a print out from Cornelian Bay Cemetery of
the persons supposedly in the DALTON crypt ( Catholic section). Has
transcribed the names from the physical crypt but they said that many
people were listed as being buried in it. Said copying down the names from
the actual crypt was the only way of definately knowing who was buried
there. But their data base listing may give me the names of heaps of
relatives and this is equally important. Maybe I will get dates of death
of the children listed below. Happy to reinburse any costs in advance.
All advice welcome as is any info on these families.
I am researching my DALTON ancestry. My grandmother was a
Julia Hannah (Mary) DALTON and she was the eldest child of James DALTON and
DONLAN/DONALLAN /DONALON/ DONALLAN. They were married on 27/9/1866 at St
Joseph's Church in Hobart. They had ten children. Brigid DALTON died on
7th April, 1921, aged 77 years. Their family crypt is in Cornellian Bay
Cemetery, Hobart. Other late nineteenth century family names were
DONLAN<MOREY<O'SHEA. Some of the GLEESON, ENRIGHT and MOREY families are
buried in the DALTON crypt generally because it would seem that one of
these other families have married a DALTON. My supposition is that the
MOREY family was related to the GLEESON family by marriage.
Have the baptismal certificates for the following of the suposed 10
children. Also have a copy of the family bib le record for these births.
Do not have any marriage or death certificates. Only three of these
children are listed on the TAS BDM index.
1] 28/7/1867 Julia Hannah DALTON ( Julia Mary)
2] 8/8/1869 - John Francis DALTON (11/8/1869- family bible record)
3] 11/11/1869 - James DALTON ( born 11/11/1871-family bible record)
4] 20/1/1874 -Anna Maria DALTON ( born 27/1/1874-family bible record)
5] 11/1/1876 -Francis Joseph DALTON
6] 5/3/1878 William Patrick DALTON (William died on the 13/9/1920.
Wife Ruby, family crypt inscription )
7] 16/9/1880 Jeremiah Joseph DALTON ( born 15/9/1880, nickname
Jerome -family bible record)
8 & 9] 17/6/1883- Twins - Thomas DALTON and Andrew DALTON ( Andrew
DALTON died 14/11/83, family crypt inscription).
The ENRIGHT and GLEESON families
I think that Honora DALTON and Julia DALTON were my g.grandfather's
sisters. A list of residents of Hobart 1867-1868 shows them living side by
GLEESON John ( m Honora DALTON) 37 Colville Street, Battery Point HOBART
EN[W]RIGHT Thomas (m Julia DALTON) 35 Colville Street Battery Point HOBART
DALTON, JULIA, DOB : 1839 - [e] Marriage : 1865 - HOBART, Tasmania,
Australia ( to THOMAS ENRIGHT ) [e]
Date of Death : Unknown - No Siblings Found, Children, 113566 ENRIGHT,
Thomas James, b1874, Death : 1881 - HOBART,Tasmania, Australia.
DALTON, HONORA , DOB 1834 [f], m 1856 Hobart, Tasmania to JOHN GLEESON
GLEESON, JULIA , DOB 1864 - [f], Marriage : 1890 - HOBART,Tasmania,
Australia ( to HARRY MOREY ) (1865@) [f] Date of Death : Unknown - No
Siblings Found ( MY NOTE figure she is the sister of John GLEESON because
the MOREY's were closely related to the GLEESON. DALTON and ENRIGHT family)
and old MRS MOREY eventually lived in one of the Battery Point houses.
TASP Family Name Other Names Date Of Birth
401524 MOREY MARY XAVERIA 1890
401499 MOREY JACK 1892
401492 MOREY HARRY ALLAN 1894
Children Found - 3