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4 January 1807
The following observations will we trust be found serviceable to those, who
owing to the very limited impression that could be printed of the last year's
Almanac, could not be supplied with copies. The Compiler had proceeded in
preparing another for the present year, in which, for the reason above given,
those Remarks would have been repeated; but the design being counteracted by the
continuing scarcity of paper, he finds this the only mode for conveying on
information in which the husbandman is interested
Gardening for January
Potatoes should now be planted, both in the garden and field, for a general crop
for the winter consumption; this is the best season of the year for planting
this valuable root, as these potatoes will come into use in the middle of winter
and beginning of spring, when cabbage & turnips generally run to seed. Carrots
may also be sown this month for a general crop; the ground should be dug very
deep and broke very fine. If the ground is light, sow the seed on a calm day and
tread it in. Carrots may be sown for table use at several seasons of the year;
and lettuces, radishes and small salad for a constant supply, may be sown every
The farmer should now be diligent in cleaning his Maize, and breaking up the
ground he intends to sow with Wheat and Barley. Experience has shown that no
certain crop can be produced if the ground is not ploughed or broken up two or
three months before seed time. The longer it is exposed to the influence of the
sun and air, the better it will be prepared for the reception of the feed, as
the summer heat will tend to kill the weeds, meliorate the soil, and give the
farmer a greater probability of reaping the reward of his toils. Should be
neglect to plough or hoe his ground till near feed time, the weeds will overrun
it, and greatly impoverish the land; their destruction will be much more
laborious and difficult; and, should the autumn prove wet, they may prevent him
from sowing the ground he intended.
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I am so sorry to hear about your house being robbed twice! I believe it is not
uncommon in that they wait a suitable time for you to replace the items
through insurance and do it again.
I hold no romantic thoughts about my convicts and have often thought that if it
were possible to go back in time and I had the opportunity of meeting them, that
I may very well dislike them . Having said that :) I do love to research them.
Whilst many may have been innocent or committed the crime because of
circumstances beyond their control, there were many, very much like todays
criminals, who did it because they could ! not because they needed to money or
the item/s. I guess they may have had a dislike of the person from whom they
stole or may have done it in spite times have not changed.... in my opinion.
CLAIM A CONVICT
From: Gail Riddell [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:19 AM
Subject: [PJ] Something to think about
I have been away from the group for quite a while, busy with other things but I
would like to share my thoughts on a recent event that happened to my family but
straight away made me think about our convicts in a different light and not in
the romantic way that I had thought about them up until now.
Our house has been robbed for the second time in as many months. The theives
took personal posessions as well as computors etc. The same thieves came back
and had another go and took the safe they couldn`t get out the last time and the
replacement computors etc.
This is when I started to compare my self and some of the "victims" of 150-200
O.K. we might think well the poor convict only stole a few garments or a couple
of plates, or a handkercheif, BUT, I would think that a lot of people back then
wouldn`t own very much more than the clothes on their back plus one set and
their possessions were probably quite meagre and very hard to replace. Like the
computors are to me, very hard to replace.
Also, I honestly thought after it happened the second time, by the same people,
I wish we could transport them somewhere else for 7 years and maybe they would
wake up to themselves. I have had enough of our slack legal system I seem to be
thinking like they were thinking back in England all those years ago. I am
probably just angry but what gives people the right to come into other peoples
homes and help themselves to what they want.
I know my "Poor "Eliza Wright from the Lord Melville was just given a job by one
of the "societies" in Middlesex and she thanked them by stealing from the
employer the same day she got the job.
Sorry about the whinge if it offends anyone but it was an interesting exercise
to put myself in the victim`s shoes.
29 December 1805
The gardeners house of His Honour Lieutenant Governor Paterson was broke into
and plundered of everything that could possibly be removed, comprising his whole
wearing apparel, bedding, tea, sugar, and provisions; and such part of which as
could not be taken away wantonly and shamefully spoiled. A hat was found in the
place, which is supposed to have been worn by William Page, an absentee into the
woods; from which and other circumstances the offence is considered to have been
committed by him and his accomplices.
Among the other depredations committed by the bush rangers lately absent, we
hear of two boats, one a large one belonging to Richard Knight, a settler, and
the other a small one, to A. Snowden a carpenter. The building of J. Harris Esq,
at the swamp was robbed on Friday, and one of the delinquents seen on a small
island in the channel, the measures adopted by the Officer of Police will we
trust soon bring to a conclusion a system of depredations which cannot at all
events be possibly of long continuance.
Regards and Happy New Year
CLAIM A CONVICT
Hello Lesley and List. After our initial venture submitting our family of
convicts we received help from a number of List Members, made contact with
distant cousins and kenmero of Wauchope who is our friend of not a day, not
a month but nigh on 40 years, he is responsible for our joining the List,
Our known family tree is now nine generations as our first great great
grand daughter entered this world during the evening of Tues 27th. Dec at
the Blacktown Hospital and given the name Halley Bridget. Our ancestors
arriving P.J. consisted of free settlers, soldiers, and convicts some
spending time in P.J. Dapto, Newcastle, Port Macquarie, Norfolk Island,
since then we have multiplied and spread over this great country.
The best of wishes to you Lesley and to fellow List Members for the year
Viv and Ron Hill,
I have been away from the group for quite a while, busy with other things but I would like to share my thoughts on a recent event that happened to my family but straight away made me think about our convicts in a different light and not in the romantic way that I had thought about them up until now.
Our house has been robbed for the second time in as many months. The theives took personal posessions as well as computors etc. The same thieves came back and had another go and took the safe they couldn`t get out the last time and the replacement computors etc.
This is when I started to compare my self and some of the "victims" of 150-200 years ago.
O.K. we might think well the poor convict only stole a few garments or a couple of plates, or a handkercheif, BUT, I would think that a lot of people back then wouldn`t own very much more than the clothes on their back plus one set and their possessions were probably quite meagre and very hard to replace. Like the computors are to me, very hard to replace.
Also, I honestly thought after it happened the second time, by the same people, I wish we could transport them somewhere else for 7 years and maybe they would wake up to themselves. I have had enough of our slack legal system I seem to be thinking like they were thinking back in England all those years ago. I am probably just angry but what gives people the right to come into other peoples homes and help themselves to what they want.
I know my "Poor "Eliza Wright from the Lord Melville was just given a job by one of the "societies" in Middlesex and she thanked them by stealing from the employer the same day she got the job.
Sorry about the whinge if it offends anyone but it was an interesting exercise to put myself in the victim`s shoes.
A Happy, Healthy New Year to all,
and may we be lucky enough to find even a little bit more, about our
A big Thank You to Lesley for guiding us all along this path, and keeping
us on the "straight and narrow" :-).
Happy New Year to everyone.
I received the following 2 days ago from the Mitchell Library and just in case anyone is planning to do research there in the near future I forward it on for your information:
Dear Gold Card Holder
I am writing to provide you with details of forthcoming changes to the
opening hours of the State Library of New South Wales. These changes are
in response to operational requirements. From 3 January 2006 the
Mitchell Library will close at 7 pm Monday to Thursday, and the State
Reference and Mitchell Libraries will close at 6 pm on Fridays. Weekend
hours remain the same.
Clients will continue to have access to printed materials from the
Mitchell and Dixson Libraries through the State Reference Library.
However, original materials (manuscripts, pictures and maps) will no
longer be available after 7.00 pm during the week. Clients with limited
time may ring the Telephone Inquiry Service on 9273-1414 and arrange
for the materials to be set aside and ready for them to use when they
arrive in the Library. Experienced Librarians will also be available in
the State Reference Library after 7.00 pm to assist with inquiries
relating to the Mitchell Library collections.
The new opening hours are as follows:
State Reference Library
Monday to Thursday: 9 am to 9 pm
Friday: 9 am to 6 pm
Weekends: 11 am to 5 pm
Mitchell Library Reading Room
Monday to Thursday: 9 am to 7 pm
Friday: 9 am to 6 pm
Saturday: 11 am to 5 pm
If you have any questions please contact Reader Services managers:
Elizabeth McKibbin emckibbin(a)sl.nsw.gov.au or Grazyna Tydda
Assistant State Librarian, Reader Services
20 December 2005
Wishing Everyone a Great New Year filled with Tumbling Brick Walls and Exciting Discoveries. Thank you to everyone who has helped me whilst I was on this list, your generosity and enthusiasm was much appreciated,
Happy New Year
How cruel of you to keep this wonderful source
a secret. I have spent nearly 20 years on and off researching and now I
see from your e-mail that I could have done it all in one week without
having to purchase BDMs or anything else. No sources would be good so
then no one can check them, no certificates would be a money saver and
they aren't needed in a book anyway because those who aren't
genealogists don't understand their significance anyway. No photographs,
maps, drawings etc. This is such a thrifty way to present the family
history. This way you can't possibly be accused of having photos of the
wrong family, who needs maps, and everyone knows what ships looked like
All this work and I don't even have a bound family book. Mind you a
couple of people do from my husband's side and there is even one in a
genealogical library but not the concrete evidence I am looking for.
Just difficult I expect to want to know who, when, where & why with a
few document thrown in.
Cherilyn in Melbourne where it is getting cooler finally
29 December 1810
The Sydney Gazette
The following persons are appointed Constables in the Town of Sydney; and are to
be obeyed as such, viz:
Jonathan Green (District Constable 1st District)
John Russell (District Constable 3rd district)
Richard Phelps (District Constable 2nd District)
Matthew J Gibbons
John Wheeler (District Constable 4th District)
Richard Dalton (District Constable 5th District)
As a Remuneration of their Services, the above mentioned Constables will be
victualled from His Majestys Stores from the 1st of January next, inclusive,
and receive one Watch-Coat and the usual quantity of Slop Clothing annually; and
an additional encouragement to behave well and perform their several duties with
Integrity and Diligence, such of them as are married and have families will be
further indulged with having their wives and two of their children (if they
should have so many) victualled also from His Majestys Stores, from the above
1st District: From Dawes Point on the North to Surrey Lane, inclusive, on the
south; and extending from Sydney Cove on the East and Cockle Bay on the West
2nd District: From Surrey Lane on the North to the Military Barracks on the
South and extending from Sydney Cove on the East to Cockle Bay on the West
3rd District: From Macquarie Place on the North to the north side of King
Street on the South, both inclusive, and extending from Hyde Park on the East to
George Street on the West
4th District: From the South Side of King Street on the North to Park Street on
the South; both inclusive, and extending from Hyde Park on the East to Cockle
Bay on the West
5th District: From Park Street and the Burying Ground on the North to the
Southern extremity of the Brickfields on the South and extending from Hyde Park
and Surrey Hills Farm on the East to Cockle Bay on the West
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The Port Jackson Convicts Anthology 1788 - 1849
Early Australian Historical Records 1788 - 1848
Historical Records Index for the Settlement of VDL, Vic, NT &
WA - 1803 - 1830
I am just going through a backlog of emails and noted lister "Christmas
Wishes". I have some ""Wishes" of my own for the New Year.
(At the end of this list, are some quotes from the obituary of a "Currency
Lass" 1836-1930 from reminiscences of her life and times, that may be of
some interest to listers. She was the daughter of my second & third listed
convicts. She lived in both NSW & VDL.)
*My Wishes............The (Births - wishing on a star now!) Deaths & Resting
Places of these convicts:
*** MCGOWAN (alias SMITH), JAMES circa ??, Ireland - ? NSW?
Arrived on "Britannia" 1797, convicted County Monaghan - absolutely no other
information on this man found at all, except for the births of his daughters
to CLARKSON, ISABELLA in 1813 & 1814, in Sydney.
*** BYRNES/BYRNE/BURNS, WILLIAM born circa 1811 Dublin?, Ireland - died?
Arrived on "Mangles" 1826, Sydney NSW, aged 15, convicted Dublin Ireland.
Errand Boy, later a Carpenter. Certificate of Freedom, 1832.
His wife whom he married at Scotts church Sydney on 16 December 1833:
*** HOLMES, JANE born circa 1807, Liverpool, Lancashire, England?- died?
Arrived on "Kains" 1831, Sydney NSW, convicted at Liverpool Burough Quarter
Sessions. Maid-of-all-Work. I have a note that she is the wife of William
Byrne in 1837, but she is not in the 1841 census, that I could find.
Their daughter JANE, born 1836, married one PAGE, THOMAS at Scotts
Presbyterian, Sydney on 7 March, 1853. Her parents were not witnesses.
*** The aforesaid PAGE, THOMAS declaring himself DIVORCED! This
declaration leads me to believe he may have been a convict. No other
information given. THOMAS "may" have died in Hobart Town, aged 66 on 1
December, 1854. The informant being his son JAMES PAGE.
*** THOMAS PAGE & JANE had sailed to HOBART TOWN not long after their
marriage in 1853 on the brig "Wild Irish Girl". In December 1853, at the
birth of their daughter, THOMAS PAGE stated he was a General Dealer, and/or
Shopkeeper at Sackville Street.
Methinks they may have run away, Jane being only 17. And if Thomas was
65............ In the obituary that was given for JANE, who died at the age
of 94 in 1930, yes, 1930, at the supposed aged of 100, it was stated that
she "when a girl of tender years, worked in the household of a music master
at Parramatta, and when he went to Sydney, he took the girl with him". This
snippet was along with some other truths and fibs.
Presumably whilst she was working at the "music master's" in Sydney, is when
she met Thomas. My longing is to have access to, and time to read, the
newspapers of the day, to see if there is any mention of a free servant to a
music master absconding, or something similar. (Or did she just marry him
to escape servitude?)
***A couple of other snippets from her obituary that may be of historical
interest to listers (not known for certain in some cases whether they relate
to NSW or VDL) is her memory of:
*MARY TAYLOR, who "was attired in the ugly government garb of the day, and
who earned a precarious living for many years shooting kangaroos and
"She could recall vividly, when men were still imprisoned at the settlement
of Port Arthur, and when unfortunate convicts who had managed to escape from
the prison were pursued by bloodhounds." (She was probably re-relating the
experiences of her common-law spouse from 1855-1885, EDMUND HARROLD, who did
NOT have a good record.)
"Could relate grim stories of brutal floggings and the experiences of
convict who had escaped from custody". (Edmund again?)
"She remembered when criminals were hanged publicly on the corner of Murray
& Macquarie Streets in Hobart and when it was a common thing for 20 or 30
men to be flogged publicly every day".
"The days of the Crimean War, the Indian Mutiny, and other periods which
have become a matter of history were once experienced vividly by (Mrs
Harrold) and she remembered the stage in the country's life when reports of
gold finds at Bathurst and Victoria took many men away from their normal
occupations." (Did her Thomas Page go to Victoria and the one I found dying
in such a convenient proximity is a coincidence? The reason she never
married Edmund Harrold?)
"One of the most vivid memories which (Mrs Harrold) retained was the arrival
in Hobart of the first steamer. It was called the "City of Hobart", and it
was considered such an event that a hotel on the corner of Collins and
Harrington Streets was named after it."
Puts her life into perspective a little - doesn't it?
A Happy New Year to all, and may all your "Wishes" be granted.
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What a wonderful account of Mr. Packer's Ancestry, it is fascinating wish
there was more Ken.... it just goes to show " One never knows what the
future may hold". I wonder what his Ancestors would have remarked about him
now in Modern times.
A Truly Remarkable, Astute Man- he will be missed by many for his Tenacity
and a Great Australian of our time.
Fay- Gold Coast.
Good day Joe. Eleanor Meredith was a fascinating person and has been the
subject of study by many of the Meredith's for years, they are all very
proud of her and her achievements. To my way of thinking and I maybe the one
out of step the young lady left more skeletons in the cupboard then any
other I know. Anyway that is history. Eleanor was the youngest of Frederick
Meredith and Sarah Mason's children. At the age of 14 she married John
Burrows and they had 8 children the youngest being named James Alfred, two
infants had died by then, Eleanor then took off with one Frederick Robert
Ferrier and only the baby James Alfred to a little place called Breeza and
they as a family had a further 8 children carrying the name Ferrier.The
first of these, Caroline Frederica, born 10 July 1844 at Ipswich married
Edward Augustus Bullmore. Eleanor died in Ipswich in 1893 and Caroline
Frederica in Ipswich in 1913. This of course is but a short précis of the
connection on the family tree. If you would like more let me know.
Regards at Wauchope Ken Meredith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Carter" <joecarter666(a)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [PJ] Mr. Kerry Packer
> Hi Ken, Sad day for OZ!
> do you have any other info about KP's ancestry , he married a 2nd cousin
> mine who I have never met would like some info ,if you have any,
> Joe Carter
> Joseph Prosser [Lloyds1833]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kenmero" <kenmero(a)tsn.cc>
> To: <AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:39 PM
> Subject: [PJ] Mr. Kerry Packer
> > Lesley and List. It is with sorrow that we learn of the passing of a
> > Australian. Kerry Bullmore Packer is a descendent of Frederick
> > seaman "Scarborough" 1788 and his wife Sarah Mason, convict, ''Bellona
> > 1793. Their youngest child Eleanor married John Burrows, convict,
> > 'Mariner" 1816. From little acorns mighty trees grow.
> > Regards to all, Ken Meredith at Wauchope.
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Lesley and List. It is with sorrow that we learn of the passing of a great Australian. Kerry Bullmore Packer is a descendent of Frederick Meredith, seaman "Scarborough" 1788 and his wife Sarah Mason, convict, ''Bellona '' 1793. Their youngest child Eleanor married John Burrows, convict, 'Mariner" 1816. From little acorns mighty trees grow.
Regards to all, Ken Meredith at Wauchope.
Hello Lesley et al,
With Lesley's kind permission I send the following invitation. Maybe we will
meet up with other Listers. Best wishes for a happy New Year.
Marilyn Mercer. Windsor. NSW
The Hawkesbury Historical Society cordially invites you to an Australia Day
Dinner to be held 6:30 for 7:00 p.m. in the Lachlan Macquarie Dining Room at
historic The Macquarie Arms Inn, Windsor.
Dress Theme is Colonial/Convict
Prizes For Best Dressed Lady/Gentleman (or maid/convict)
Two Lunch Cruises for two on the Paddle wheeler
Prizes Donated by Sue and James Kelly
The Hawkesbury Paddle Wheeler
A Member of The Windsor Business Group Inc.
Cost: $26 pp
Drinks not included. May be purchased at the Bar.
Pre Dinner nibbles on back porch from 6:30. Dinner Served at 7:00
Menu:- Roast Lamb and Roasted Seasonal Vegetables, Gravy and Mint sauce,
Dessert:- Apple Pie and Cream/Ice Cream
Tea and Coffee
Special Guest Speaker Bruce Baskerville from NSW Heritage Office,
His Topic "The Commons of Colonial NSW"
Please print, complete and return with cheque made 'Hawkesbury Historical
to 27 George St. Windsor 2756
or email to lacol(a)myisp.net.au to book with posted cheque to confirm
by 20th January 2006 Please note Places are limited !!
Bookings in absolute order of arrival by any of above methods.
Name ............. No. of places .... x $26 = $....
Contact Phone........ For confirmation of booking.
Special Dietary requirements
Dear Lesley and Listers,
Thank you very much for all the effort put into the list over the year and
all the very best for the New Year.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:00 PM
Subject: AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-D Digest V05 #501
Merry Christmas to Lesley & all the PJers,
Thankyou Lesley for posting the mention of my 4xgreat grandfather Samuel CORDWELL per Neptune 1818.
Samuel was tried at Leicester Assizes in April 1817 & again in July 1817 after having suffered convulsions in the dock during his first trial. He, along with several others were tried for a Luddite attack against a factory in Loughborough, some of those tried were hung & Samuel was transported for life. (from the research of Peter Larson)
I an guessing that the reporter really meant that Samuel ran a house that had as many holes as a collander rather than a calender ..... but who knows. LOL
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