Linda Lewis wrote:
Joy is right, the removal of Kenny is an issue that should be discussed
elsewhere.
If Kenny had been removed in a proper way, there would be no
discussion. Remember that.
But, let me get what you said straight.
You said the KS by-laws did what they were supposed to do.
--- There are no KSGenWeb by-laws, so how did they do anything?
KS.incorporated as a non-Prf. You could do no more damage than you did
or you would have.
You said the point is that ever since KS incorporated they have been a
target by some in the USGW.
Linda, a target is never stated by those who have done the targeting,
--- I'm not aware of any targeting of KSGenWeb. I can assure you that
the filing of papers by KS or any other group had nothing to do with the
replacement of Kenny as an archivist for the USGenWeb Archives. He was
removed, as I said before, because there were complaints from submitters
that he was not uploading files to the USGenWeb Archives as they had
requested. They were complaining to me. When I asked him about it, he
said "they are my customers, anyway." He had told a couple people that
he was instructed by the state coordinators to *not* upload anymore new
files to the USGenWeb Archives, and they complained to me.
Those facts are documented. Those that complained choose not to speak
out at this time because of possible retaliation. I respect their
wishes. The USGenWeb Archives Board rep has communicated with one of
those parties and has permission from them to share their experience
with the Board only.
I would appreciate it if you wouldn't make accusations about things for
which you have no facts.
Linda, Is it not a fact thet Ken was removed with out benefit of a legal
vote by the board? Is it not a fact that, you changed his password,
replaced the KS "TOC" and appointed two people to take his place?
Again I will say it is not where he was uploading his files. Your
conduct in replacing him is in question as far as I am concerned. You
may be right on the files but you were wrong in the way you went about
replacing him...
If you think the coordinators and/or volunteers of the USGenWeb Archives
have a "hidden agenda", please ask it directly instead of hinting that
there is one. I will answer you now - there is no hidden agenda. We are
all here for the same purpose, to provide free data for researchers. If
I didn't believe in that, I wouldn't be spending as much of my time on
this project. I wouldn't be spending so much time transcribing data for
the Archives. Most of us are not only involved in receiving, formatting,
and uploading files, we are also transcribing data for permanent
storage.
You are right, I am one of those volunteers doing the above work. I
dont think there is a "hidden agenda" by the volunteers. It is more a
over zealous project coordinator or a group of block voting members of
the board I worry about. But if there is no problem or plan, there
should also be no problem in making proper amendments to the bylaws and
making it clear to submitters that their information is no longer
their's but property of the USGW. Unless you make a couple of changes
that is what it is in a nut shell.
Linda, the bylaws are important, some pushed very hard for them. I
expect myself to be held to them, by the same token I will hold the
board and project coordinators to them as well.
We are in the process of uploading actual census images to the
archives_html directory. We have hundreds of volunteers transcribing
census microfilm (me included) to put online for researchers.
I am in the process of transcribing the 1850 Clay Co. census and 7
cemeteries in Owsley Co that I surveyed Monday. What is your point? To
impress, or to imply that what you are doing is more important than what
I am doing? I dont think so.
The USGenWeb Archives have become a "valuable" entity, which we expected
when we were planning them, and put in place strict guidelines that
would protect the intention of the volunteer submitters. I'm sorry if I
take it personal when people attack the Archives and any of the
thousands of people that have built it to what it is now, but we are
trusted to do what we say on the main page of the Archives and in the
guidelines. That has been stressed over and over to the archivists, and
the USGenWeb Archives have gained a well-deserved respect in the
genealogical community, even recognized by the National Genealogical
Society. The integrity of the Archives and everyone involved in it is
being attacked by our fellow volunteers... but why??
Not everyone is being attacked Linda, realy no one is being attacked.
There are some things that need to be addressed and fixed.
Linda, I stated three reasons, you have not addressed one of them with
any real effort to this point. I agree the archive are important or I
would not be involved. a couple of simple things should be done to make
submitters and archivists comfortable. Rather than address the problems
you are tellig me how important the archives have become.
Tim Spence
Thanks, and I apologize for the lengthy message.
Linda
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Tim & Valorie Taylor Spence
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